Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Smh.....Look it up! What Ken said can be verified! I sat here and watched your pope pray with the head of islam and many other false religions last summer. I also found this video from 1986 where YOUR pope stated that they are all praying to same god and pushing for a one world religion. This push may have started in the 80s or even previous. The fact remains that he is praying with others who pray to demi gods/demons! I suppose its fitting since your pope also is a worshiper of another christ. Ill be posting the current one from last summer next. You cannot refute live footage can you? Do you have the courage to watch? You going to call me a liar? When will you surrender to Christ and leave all the rest behind?
[h=1]The Pope unifies all the world's religions into a ONE WORLD Religion[/h]
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[h=1]The Pope unifies all the world's religions into a ONE WORLD Religion[/h]
<strong><font size="3"><span style="color:#0000ff;">[video=youtube_share;7tF1Epj9nL8]http://youtu.be/7tF1Epj9nL8[/video]
The "Works" the Catholics do by feeding the poor will not result in any Rewards because they do it for others to see them doing it. This is why you do not see or hear Christian Churches feeding and helping the poor because they do it for the Glory of God and not for their own Glory like the Catholics do.
There are many things the True Christians do for others but you will not see them "Blowing their horns" for others to see what they are doing like the Catholics do.
Its Jesus Chris and ONLY Jesus Christ mwc68. Not Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church. I defend no Church! I do and will defend Jesus Christ but not a physical Church here on this Earth.
The whole point is you will receive no Rewards in Heaven for Praying to Mary. You will not receive any Rewards in Heaven for Worshiping Mary. And you will receive no Rewards for defending the lies of the Catholic Church.
Matthew 6:1-2
[SUP]1 [/SUP] "Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.
Colossians 2:18-19 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
There are many things the True Christians do for others but you will not see them "Blowing their horns" for others to see what they are doing like the Catholics do.
Its Jesus Chris and ONLY Jesus Christ mwc68. Not Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church. I defend no Church! I do and will defend Jesus Christ but not a physical Church here on this Earth.
The whole point is you will receive no Rewards in Heaven for Praying to Mary. You will not receive any Rewards in Heaven for Worshiping Mary. And you will receive no Rewards for defending the lies of the Catholic Church.
Matthew 6:1-2
[SUP]1 [/SUP] "Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.
Colossians 2:18-19 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
What means more to you mwc68, following what the Popes say or what God says in the Scriptures?
What means more to you mwc68, your Pride of being a Catholic or being humbled in the presence of God?
What means more to you mwc68, defending the lies of the Roman Catholic Church or spreading the Gospel of Salvation to those who do not know God?
What means more to you mwc68, Mary or Jesus?
What means more to you mwc68, your Pride of being a Catholic or being humbled in the presence of God?
What means more to you mwc68, defending the lies of the Roman Catholic Church or spreading the Gospel of Salvation to those who do not know God?
What means more to you mwc68, Mary or Jesus?
Watch the video. Let me know what you think. Im trying to show you TRUTH and ERROR. I am doing as Christ would have me do.
Your response was once again on the defensive deflecting from the subject matter.
I corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Condescending?
So you believe a person is being condescending when they bring you the Truth from God? Actually i believe you find God condescending in His Truths in the Scriptures. Why do you hate the Word of God so much mwc68? Why do you hate it where God says all have sinned and all includes Mary?
Could it be your love for Mary is greater than your Love for God?
Why else do you hate True Christians who refuse to follow your God Mary?
All i see from you is hate towards those who really care for you and your Soul. All i see from you is contempt for the Word of God and contempt for His True Children.
Its Jesus Christ only, not Jesus Christ and Mary. You need to realize everything you have and will have comes from God only, not God and Mary. Until you realize Mary can do nothing for you, you will be trapped forever by the Roman Catholic Church in its lies.
So you believe a person is being condescending when they bring you the Truth from God? Actually i believe you find God condescending in His Truths in the Scriptures. Why do you hate the Word of God so much mwc68? Why do you hate it where God says all have sinned and all includes Mary?
Could it be your love for Mary is greater than your Love for God?
Why else do you hate True Christians who refuse to follow your God Mary?
All i see from you is hate towards those who really care for you and your Soul. All i see from you is contempt for the Word of God and contempt for His True Children.
Its Jesus Christ only, not Jesus Christ and Mary. You need to realize everything you have and will have comes from God only, not God and Mary. Until you realize Mary can do nothing for you, you will be trapped forever by the Roman Catholic Church in its lies.
Is that right.... even though Jews deny Jesus is the Messiah, do not believe in the Trinity, do not accept the New Testament? Did you know that their daily prayer begins with: "Hear, O Israel, the Lord is your God, the Lord is ONE."
Our Orthodox Jewish brethren Budman, usually make four major assumptions:
1. There is no possible way that the New Testament is divinely inspired. It contains myth and invention, and is based only loosely on Judaism.
2. The phrase "the messiah" never appears in Scripture, only "messiahs" are mentioned. THE messiah is a concept which exists in the Talmud, and Talmudic interpretation of what is or is not messianic reference in Scripture is an aspect of divine oral tradition.
3. Any Christian understanding of what is or is not valid criteria for judging the identity of messiah is simply flawed. It comes from an ignorance of genuine Judaism, and the poor information they've been taught about what Scripture "really" says.
4. The concept of a Second Coming/Parousia is simply a Christian admission that Christ did NOT fulfill the obvious and clear messianic prophecies, but only vague ones which cannot be verified. In terms of bringing universal peace -- something which would be clear -- He "failed"; but on the other hand, Christians say he succeeded to doing things like being born in Bethlehem or born of a Virgin (both of which are rooted in ignorant translations and interpretations).
And a real shocker for you beleivers of Sola Scriptura, don't be fooled into thinking that Jews are anything like sola scriptura Protestants. Contrary to what many of you may argue, they without question "Do NOT" draw their Jewish understanding from only biblical sources, and the bible alone is not sufficient to arrive at a clear Jewish take on all of this.
Hmmmm....according to the Jewish beleif He is not.
So Budman, you are okay with saying that the Jews, who believe that Jesus spoke a lie, worship the same God as we do (even when they clearly deny Jesus Christ)...but you have a problem with Muslims worshipping the same God, (the God of Abraham) when they at least accept the fact that Jesus Christ was sent by God?
This statement is nothing more than hate and bigotry.... nothing more, and deserves a response like this. {...............................................................................................}
Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." ---Luke 1:48.
Our Orthodox Jewish brethren Budman, usually make four major assumptions:
1. There is no possible way that the New Testament is divinely inspired. It contains myth and invention, and is based only loosely on Judaism.
2. The phrase "the messiah" never appears in Scripture, only "messiahs" are mentioned. THE messiah is a concept which exists in the Talmud, and Talmudic interpretation of what is or is not messianic reference in Scripture is an aspect of divine oral tradition.
3. Any Christian understanding of what is or is not valid criteria for judging the identity of messiah is simply flawed. It comes from an ignorance of genuine Judaism, and the poor information they've been taught about what Scripture "really" says.
4. The concept of a Second Coming/Parousia is simply a Christian admission that Christ did NOT fulfill the obvious and clear messianic prophecies, but only vague ones which cannot be verified. In terms of bringing universal peace -- something which would be clear -- He "failed"; but on the other hand, Christians say he succeeded to doing things like being born in Bethlehem or born of a Virgin (both of which are rooted in ignorant translations and interpretations).
And a real shocker for you beleivers of Sola Scriptura, don't be fooled into thinking that Jews are anything like sola scriptura Protestants. Contrary to what many of you may argue, they without question "Do NOT" draw their Jewish understanding from only biblical sources, and the bible alone is not sufficient to arrive at a clear Jewish take on all of this.
Hmmmm....according to the Jewish beleif He is not.
So Budman, you are okay with saying that the Jews, who believe that Jesus spoke a lie, worship the same God as we do (even when they clearly deny Jesus Christ)...but you have a problem with Muslims worshipping the same God, (the God of Abraham) when they at least accept the fact that Jesus Christ was sent by God?
This statement is nothing more than hate and bigotry.... nothing more, and deserves a response like this. {...............................................................................................}
Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." ---Luke 1:48.
Look brother I am really trying to point out something toyou, I see you have a love for God and Jesus, there is no question about thatas far as I can see, but think about this. I see you say "JesusChrist", yet I only see you give glory to "the Church", go backand read your comments, you glorify the church 10 to one more than I ever seeyou glorify His name. That is the problem. You aren't following Jesus, you arefollowing a "church", and a "church" can't save you onlyJesus can, a “church” wasn’t sent to save us Jesus was.
That's why you don't see me saying, "I'm a Baptist",or "I'm a protestant", or "you have to join the Pentecostals",or anything like that. You know why? Not because I hate Catholics, because Ilove Jesus and know Him, like literally. He fills us with His Spirit and we areremade into a whole new creature. Is that what the RCC teaches? Has that happento you? I've heard a Catholic on this site say "I don't get what a testimonyis about, why would anyone want to tell about all the bad stuff they'vedone?", I mean I don't think you could have a worse misunderstanding aboutwhat a testimony even is. There is a truth and what the RCC teaches is not it,read the bible and see. That is the tragedy about it all, it's not each andevery individual person that we speak against, nor do I say Catholics can’t besaved, or even that there aren’t saved Catholics, it's the false teaching thatlead people astray that we refute, and if there are regenerated Catholics it’snot because of what the RCC teaches it’s in spite of it. I also feel the sameway about many, what you call protestant, churches as well. It's just alwaystaken so personally and when you identify yourself by the "church"you attend, it causes these kind of problems. Any Christian should know theonly identity or loyalty we should take on is to Jesus. I don’t think even youwould disagree with that.
I won't disagree with that. What I do know is Jesus Christ founded the Church on Peter. This is the Catholic Church . I know yall have problems with that, but I don't. Jesus left us a visible church in the world. And the animosity towards that church is alarming and hurtful. If I was a satanist i wouldn't even be here on CC. I suspect the reason it seems I only talk about the Church is because of the people that are constantly dogging the church. And I respond, though not always in the best manner. I am human afterall and have a few feelings left! Lol
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Jesus never founded the Catholic Church on Peter. Its the Catholic Church itself that said it, not God. No where in the Scriptures does Jesus talk about founding a Church that had Peter as its Pope.
It is very clear to most of us here that you mwc68 put your faith in the Catholic Church and Mary, not in God where your faith must be. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that gives us our Salvation. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that we do works for God. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that we receive the Truth from God in His Scriptures.
Its by your faith in Mary and the Catholic Church that you are being deceived by Satan into rejecting the Truth in the Scriptures.
Of course the Catholic Church does not believe its a false Church because they have been deceived by Satan into thinking their are Gods.
How can the Catholic Church say its the True Church when it claims all those who reject Jesus Christ are our brothers in Christ? In 2013 Pope Francis declared that the Muslims, who reject Jesus Christ as God, are our brothers in Christ. This alone proves that Pope Francis does not have Salvation and has never received the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Pope Francis is a sham, a wolf in sheep clothing, pretending to be a True Christian when in fact he has never accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. His main goal is to corrupt the Christian Religion and throw out God and bring in Satan for the Catholics to follow as their God.
Matthew 7:15
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Pope Francis is a false prophet who goal is to destroy Christianity and the True Christians who refuse to follow the Roman Catholic Church into the depths of Hell.
It is very clear to most of us here that you mwc68 put your faith in the Catholic Church and Mary, not in God where your faith must be. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that gives us our Salvation. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that we do works for God. Its Faith in Jesus Christ that we receive the Truth from God in His Scriptures.
Its by your faith in Mary and the Catholic Church that you are being deceived by Satan into rejecting the Truth in the Scriptures.
Of course the Catholic Church does not believe its a false Church because they have been deceived by Satan into thinking their are Gods.
How can the Catholic Church say its the True Church when it claims all those who reject Jesus Christ are our brothers in Christ? In 2013 Pope Francis declared that the Muslims, who reject Jesus Christ as God, are our brothers in Christ. This alone proves that Pope Francis does not have Salvation and has never received the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Pope Francis is a sham, a wolf in sheep clothing, pretending to be a True Christian when in fact he has never accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. His main goal is to corrupt the Christian Religion and throw out God and bring in Satan for the Catholics to follow as their God.
Matthew 7:15
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Pope Francis is a false prophet who goal is to destroy Christianity and the True Christians who refuse to follow the Roman Catholic Church into the depths of Hell.
The problem with the Catholics is they have never put their full Faith and Trust in God. All i hear from the Catholics is how great the Catholic Church is or how great is Mary.
Have you ever heard a Catholic praise God and God only? All i hear is Mary this and Saint that who have done this and done that. That is all the Catholics talk about.
It seems their faith is in the Roman Catholic Church and in Mary. Have you noticed how great the Catholics defend their God Mary? I hear very little from the Catholics about the Truth in the Scriptures. They are always quoting the Catholic Church and rarely quote from the Scriptures. Every time they do quote from the Scriptures have you noticed how they twist the Truth in the Scriptures to justify their Worshiping of Mary as their God?
Its time to wake up people and really see the Roman Catholic Church for what it really is. A corrupted Church that has no problems with murdering innocent people who refuse to convert to Catholicism. Also the Roman Catholic Church has no problems with the Priests molesting our Children for their evil desires. The molestation of Children has been going on for over a thousand years in the Roman Catholic Church and they see nothing wrong with it. Why else would the Popes hide out the Priests who have molested our Children?
Have you ever heard a Catholic praise God and God only? All i hear is Mary this and Saint that who have done this and done that. That is all the Catholics talk about.
It seems their faith is in the Roman Catholic Church and in Mary. Have you noticed how great the Catholics defend their God Mary? I hear very little from the Catholics about the Truth in the Scriptures. They are always quoting the Catholic Church and rarely quote from the Scriptures. Every time they do quote from the Scriptures have you noticed how they twist the Truth in the Scriptures to justify their Worshiping of Mary as their God?
Its time to wake up people and really see the Roman Catholic Church for what it really is. A corrupted Church that has no problems with murdering innocent people who refuse to convert to Catholicism. Also the Roman Catholic Church has no problems with the Priests molesting our Children for their evil desires. The molestation of Children has been going on for over a thousand years in the Roman Catholic Church and they see nothing wrong with it. Why else would the Popes hide out the Priests who have molested our Children?