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Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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You aren't in any way serious. You just want to slap the "hate" label on anyone who tries to share the truth with you. I ask you questions, and you refuse to answer them when it puts your "church" in a negative light. To avoid actual debate, you throw hissy fits instead.
You try being told you are wrong and going to hell on a daily basis and see how it affects you. Yeah, I'm a little pissed at this garbage yall spew
Pretty much in every one of his posts since he joined here, he has used the word "hate." Obviously he's still Catholic and NOT a Christian as his status claims.
Honestly, the mods should delete this thread. It is the single most contentious, judgemental and heretical and strife-filled thread on this whole site.. :/ You can actually feel Satan's spirit in here.. *shudder*
excuse you, but you have an attitude with EVERYONE here, including me. I keep asking you questions that I would like answers to, and ALL you do is say how I hate my brethren. That's the kettle calling the pot black, don't ya think?
Well, you are spewing sewer water too. IF you're a christian as you claim, you should know that christianity is the ONE TRUE religion, and that Catholicism is a false religion, as are their beliefs. I can't figure out if you're mad at us because you know we're right and you don't want to face it, or if you're mad because you truly don't want to abandon Catholicism even though you know you should. You CANNOT serve TWO masters. You need to choose between Jesus and Satan.
That is not the choice! That's what you don't realize. But that's ok accuse me of satanism again. That's what you do, because I don't accept some of your silly ideas of Christianity
Then why do you keep coming back?
If it makes you as angry as you claim - simply avoid this thread.
It's just common sense.
No you did NOT answer my questions. I asked you why you don't believe that Mary does not intercede or pray for you. You told me the answer is in Revelation somewhere. FALSE
Then I asked you why you are so vehemently defending the RCC since your a Christian. I got the response "you must hate your brother." Those are NOT answers, they are lame excuses because YOU REFUSE TO HEAR THE TRUTH ABOUT THE RCC.
Keep on believing that Mary prays for you and intercedes for you. When you do NOT go to heaven, you will realize how wrong you were. You have the spirit upon you, but it ain't the spirit of Jesus.
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KennethC
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That is a common theme from a few on here that if you don't agree with them you are going to hell.
They don't understand how to properly reprove, rebuke, and then exhort others by the word of God.
Some do know how to do this, but if anybody is using condemning tactics then they are not properly edifying the body.
Hang in there and just put those on ignore that condemn you, and I would also through in that just because a person points out a flaw or bad teaching of the denomination you are in it is not always coming from a sign of hatred. Sometimes it comes from love because by our love for one another we are not to sit back and let false teaching slide, and help others in it see the truth in His word.
Apostle Paul constantly when he came acrossed brethren walking improperly he called them out on it, and showed them by love how to properly walk in the faith.....
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Gr8grace
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We should all try to be completely honest with ourselves. All of us still follow satan at times. Me, you and everybody here.
When we grieve or quench the Spirit, we are following satan. It is his plan to thwart the believer from living the Christian way of life. He uses sin(grieving) or religion(quenching)
When I grieve or quench the Spirit, I am following satan and his plan. And I will not lie, I still grieve and quench the Spirit as a born again believer.
I have been short with yall, I love Jesus and His Church and I will defend her. I'm not very good at it, but I am a voice. I have let my emotions run wild and I'm dealing with other issues that I shouldn't let get to me. I didn't mean to abuse yall
It's okay to be passionate. Just know for sure, that we love you, and desire to see you come to a saving knowledge of the truth. That is our only motivation.
I'm considering this an apology.
And you're forgiven. By me, at least..lol.. Now speaking of Jesus and his church, you do realize that the Catholic church is NOT his church, right?
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KennethC
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What did Apostle Paul say in 1 Corinthians 11:29 ???
He did not say keeping the sacraments as nowhere in the bible does it say keeping sacraments condemns a person.
What Paul said in Corinthians is that if you partake of the Lord's supper in an unworthy manner you eat and drink condemnation to yourselves.
There is nothing in the bible that says keeping those, keeping feast days, or even the Sabbath condemns a person.
Neither does it say those who don't are condemned either, but what it does show and say is that if you do idol worship which bowing down to a statue is idol worship will condemn a person if they do not repent.
Just because a person is in the Catholic church we can not just right away condemn them, that is improper and not called of us to do. We are to help them by the word of God to see the truth to lead them away from those false teachings and customs they do.
The other problem I see in what is done to Catholics usually comes from Protestants or those of the OSAS doctrine, and guess what you guys are calling him out and condemning him for refusing your advice. But when another points out the flaws in your own churches and doctrine you do exactly what he is doing, get upset and refuse to listen.
See how you do exactly the same thing when called out on your flaws that you are getting on him for doing as well ???
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KennethC
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What do you mean by this as I have never condemned you, and I think you being upset with others has got you to misplace this thought on me. For it was Budman that was condemning you for keeping sacraments, not me !!!
No Budman, mwc68 is not condemned for keeping the Sacraments. The question is "how does one lose their Salvation"? Can one lose their Salvation by keeping the Sacraments? No. But one can lose their Rewards in heaven for keeping the Sacraments the Roman Catholic Church teaches.
What must one do to lose their Salvation? To lose one's Salvation one MUST reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. So far I have seen nothing mwc68 has done to lose his Salvation.
So now the question switches to, "Has mwc68 received Salvation"? If he does believe that Jesus Christ is God and has confessed with his mouth that Jesus Christ is God, then he has received Salvation.
The next question is,"Can a person receive any Rewards in Heaven for the "Works" they do to receive Salvation"? No. They do not receive and rewards for "Works".
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
"Works" the Catholics do are wood, hay, straw. Doing the Sacraments are "Works" that will be burned up.
What must one do to lose their Salvation? To lose one's Salvation one MUST reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. So far I have seen nothing mwc68 has done to lose his Salvation.
So now the question switches to, "Has mwc68 received Salvation"? If he does believe that Jesus Christ is God and has confessed with his mouth that Jesus Christ is God, then he has received Salvation.
The next question is,"Can a person receive any Rewards in Heaven for the "Works" they do to receive Salvation"? No. They do not receive and rewards for "Works".
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
"Works" the Catholics do are wood, hay, straw. Doing the Sacraments are "Works" that will be burned up.