Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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The apocrypha wasn't included at first in the Septuagint, but was appended by the Alexandrian Jews, and was not listed in any of the catalogues of the inspired books till the 4th century. source http://www.bible.ca/catholic-apocrypha.htm
Under whose authority were the apocrypha books added to the Bible mwc68?
None of the apocrypha books were ever quoted by Jesus Christ.
But that is besides the point. The point is you hate the Truth in the Scriptures because every time someone points out the Truth in the Scriptures to you you claim that is hating you. When are you going to stop calling us haters of the Catholics just for showing you the Truth in the Scriptures?
Its you mwc68 that is doing the hating. Its you mwc68 that is hating the Scriptures from God. Its you mwc68 who refuse to back up what you believe in with Scriptures from God. Its you mwc68 who is causing all the strife in this chat room, not us.
As long as you teach the commandments from the Roman Catholic Church as Doctrines from God, God cannot and will not listen to your prayers. Just because you disagree with this does not mean we hate you. Its not all about you mwc68, its all about the Truth from God that you trample on and call hating you for bringing it out for you to read and understand.
You can disagree with what God says all you want, but in the end you are only hurting yourself. God clearly has taught us that many who claim to follow Him are not following Him. Salvation is all about following God and God only. Only God are we to Worship and serve. This is what Jesus Christ said to Satan and this also applies to you mwc68. Serving Mary is a sin, Worshiping Mary is a sin.
When you serve and Worship Mary, God refuses to listen to your Prayers to Him. Basically God tunes you out as long as Mary is you God. This is the danger you are in. God has turned His back on you for this. I understand you have been lied to by the Roman Catholic Church, but this does not excuse you from accepting the Truths in the Scriptures from God. In the end its our choice if we listen to God only or listen to the Catholic Church only.
It is getting a little tiring to be accused of hatred just for bringing the Truth from God to you. Its like a mantra with you, saying over and over and over again how people hate you, how people hate the Catholics, how only you Catholics have the Truth and no one else.
God will only go so far with a person until even He has had enough and will send them a great delusion to reject His Truths and follow Mary all they want. I believe this is what God did with Pope John Paul II with his Worship of Mary as his God.
None of the apocrypha books were ever quoted by Jesus Christ.
But that is besides the point. The point is you hate the Truth in the Scriptures because every time someone points out the Truth in the Scriptures to you you claim that is hating you. When are you going to stop calling us haters of the Catholics just for showing you the Truth in the Scriptures?
Its you mwc68 that is doing the hating. Its you mwc68 that is hating the Scriptures from God. Its you mwc68 who refuse to back up what you believe in with Scriptures from God. Its you mwc68 who is causing all the strife in this chat room, not us.
As long as you teach the commandments from the Roman Catholic Church as Doctrines from God, God cannot and will not listen to your prayers. Just because you disagree with this does not mean we hate you. Its not all about you mwc68, its all about the Truth from God that you trample on and call hating you for bringing it out for you to read and understand.
You can disagree with what God says all you want, but in the end you are only hurting yourself. God clearly has taught us that many who claim to follow Him are not following Him. Salvation is all about following God and God only. Only God are we to Worship and serve. This is what Jesus Christ said to Satan and this also applies to you mwc68. Serving Mary is a sin, Worshiping Mary is a sin.
When you serve and Worship Mary, God refuses to listen to your Prayers to Him. Basically God tunes you out as long as Mary is you God. This is the danger you are in. God has turned His back on you for this. I understand you have been lied to by the Roman Catholic Church, but this does not excuse you from accepting the Truths in the Scriptures from God. In the end its our choice if we listen to God only or listen to the Catholic Church only.
It is getting a little tiring to be accused of hatred just for bringing the Truth from God to you. Its like a mantra with you, saying over and over and over again how people hate you, how people hate the Catholics, how only you Catholics have the Truth and no one else.
God will only go so far with a person until even He has had enough and will send them a great delusion to reject His Truths and follow Mary all they want. I believe this is what God did with Pope John Paul II with his Worship of Mary as his God.
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you must distinguish hating the person from hating the doctrine. Our aim is only to do you good
The thing of these facts is:
a) Has GOD told men what BOOKS inspired or not?
b) When "I LIKED" a thing, do I have also "the right" to pick a book or their words as inspired?
c) They sat in their chairs, any moment in history and, at the end of the meeting, wrote a paper saying -like the apostles did one day: "and the Holy Spirit that "these" books are OK..." (Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you).
It was NOT Jews, Luther or the Catholics alone, but human race trying to grasp GOD´s mind in a book.
Happily, He is SPIRIT.
Joh 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship God must be led by the Spirit to worship him according to the truth.
Under the authority of TRUTH
Under men´s soul inspired to discerned what GOD told other men, before them.
Under LOGICAL interpretations and, if a "new" teaching contradicted OTHER ALREADY SET, it wasn´t GOD teaching His ppl.
By the way!
In the OT we can "see" MAJOR Prophets and MINOR Prophets... Same rule I decided to apply to our known Gospel where -at my risk- (perhaps an eternal risk of damnation) I chose to see Paul´s teachings as Catholics, Narcissists and as those "minor" writers wrote, because Jesus lived with 12 apostles 3 years and, UPSTART (like me) dared to organize a religious system of "beliefs" the former apostles did not mention on their few letters.
Call be heretic! But I won´t die for Paul´s teachings, but for Jesus´teachings.
Paul was teaching what Jesus Christ said. Paul was chosen by Jesus to replace Judas.
The teachings of Paul were accepted by all the other Disciples who were also chosen by Jesus.
2 Peter 3:14-16
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation--as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
Even Peter said Paul was a Disciple who spoke for God.
You can reject everything Paul is saying, but even Peter accepted everything he said in his teachings.
The teachings of Paul were accepted by all the other Disciples who were also chosen by Jesus.
2 Peter 3:14-16
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation--as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
Even Peter said Paul was a Disciple who spoke for God.
You can reject everything Paul is saying, but even Peter accepted everything he said in his teachings.
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Everything you said here is true accept for Paul replacing Judas, as the one who was chosen to replace Judas was Mathias (Acts 1:22-26).
But yes Paul taught exactly what Jesus taught and the only thing he did was give more meat of the gospel by the Holy Spirit.
I acknowledged that!
But, creepidly, several Catholic teachings were introduced under Paul´s name:
"1Co 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, who shall put you in remembrance of my ways which are in Christ, even as I teach everywhere in every church. "
Was he a SPIRITUAL FATHER? (Versus "Mat 23:9 Don't call anyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Father in heaven.")
Was he a narcissit "teacher"? (Versus "Mat 23:8 But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters.")
"Phm 1:10 I beseech thee for my child, whom I have begotten in my bonds, Onesimus,"
Was he a Father and a Mom, at the same time? (Simply Catholic allegories supporting the future RCC´s ideas?)
There are more things I have checked, to the point I could be endangering myself to be seen another way -as Heretic- but I chose, in my zeal, to follow Jesus, instead of worshipping such personalism He (Paul) showed against Peter or Barnabas.
I do beg to be excused for not providing what I have written and published -at length- in my blogs, elsewhere (here and outside).
But, creepidly, several Catholic teachings were introduced under Paul´s name:
"1Co 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, who shall put you in remembrance of my ways which are in Christ, even as I teach everywhere in every church. "
Was he a SPIRITUAL FATHER? (Versus "Mat 23:9 Don't call anyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Father in heaven.")
Was he a narcissit "teacher"? (Versus "Mat 23:8 But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters.")
"Phm 1:10 I beseech thee for my child, whom I have begotten in my bonds, Onesimus,"
Was he a Father and a Mom, at the same time? (Simply Catholic allegories supporting the future RCC´s ideas?)
There are more things I have checked, to the point I could be endangering myself to be seen another way -as Heretic- but I chose, in my zeal, to follow Jesus, instead of worshipping such personalism He (Paul) showed against Peter or Barnabas.
I do beg to be excused for not providing what I have written and published -at length- in my blogs, elsewhere (here and outside).
After proofreading that:
"But,creepily, several Catholic teachings were introduced under Paul´sname:
"1Co4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timothy, who is mybeloved and faithful child in the Lord, who shall put you inremembrance of my ways which are in Christ, even as I teacheverywhere in every church. "
a)Was he a SPIRITUAL FATHER? (Versus "Mat 23:9 Don't callanyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Fatherin heaven.")
b)Was he a narcissist "teacher"? (Versus "Mat 23:8 Butnone of you should be called a teacher. You have only oneteacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters.")
c)Paul set himself above Barnabas, above Peter and above all hethought it´s was best. I don´t know how he avoided being named the1[SUP]st[/SUP] Catholic POPE in Rome (for Gentiles)
"Phm1:10 I beseech thee for my child, whom I have begottenin my bonds, Onesimus,"
a)Was he a Father and a Mom, at the same time? (SimplyCatholic allegories “supporting” the future RCC´s ideas?Such as celibacy, and naming their priests “Fathers”)
Thereare more things I have checked some time ago, to the point I could beendangering myself to be seen another way -as Heretic- but I chose,in my zeal, to follow Jesus, instead of worshipping suchpersonalism he (Paul) showed against Peter or Barnabas spiritualleadership.
I dobeg to be excused for not providing what I have written and published-at length- in my blogs, elsewhere (here and outside)."
"But,creepily, several Catholic teachings were introduced under Paul´sname:
"1Co4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timothy, who is mybeloved and faithful child in the Lord, who shall put you inremembrance of my ways which are in Christ, even as I teacheverywhere in every church. "
a)Was he a SPIRITUAL FATHER? (Versus "Mat 23:9 Don't callanyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Fatherin heaven.")
b)Was he a narcissist "teacher"? (Versus "Mat 23:8 Butnone of you should be called a teacher. You have only oneteacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters.")
c)Paul set himself above Barnabas, above Peter and above all hethought it´s was best. I don´t know how he avoided being named the1[SUP]st[/SUP] Catholic POPE in Rome (for Gentiles)
"Phm1:10 I beseech thee for my child, whom I have begottenin my bonds, Onesimus,"
a)Was he a Father and a Mom, at the same time? (SimplyCatholic allegories “supporting” the future RCC´s ideas?Such as celibacy, and naming their priests “Fathers”)
Thereare more things I have checked some time ago, to the point I could beendangering myself to be seen another way -as Heretic- but I chose,in my zeal, to follow Jesus, instead of worshipping suchpersonalism he (Paul) showed against Peter or Barnabas spiritualleadership.
I dobeg to be excused for not providing what I have written and published-at length- in my blogs, elsewhere (here and outside)."
Many a Catholic teaching has claimed its from Paul or God. It does not matter what the Roman Catholic Church says because the Roman Catholic Church does not follow God, instead they put themselves above God with all their false Doctrines about Mary.
The Roman Catholic Church was never the true Church. The Roman Catholic Church today under Pope Francis has walked away from God to declare itself God by saying Muslims who have rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are our brothers in Christ!
What Pope Francis has done is declare war on God.
The Roman Catholic Church was never the true Church. The Roman Catholic Church today under Pope Francis has walked away from God to declare itself God by saying Muslims who have rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are our brothers in Christ!
What Pope Francis has done is declare war on God.
The great commission has nothing to do with being liked. I am not responsible for what people believe only that I should declare the gospel to them from the word of God.
Jesus was rejected and persecuted should I expect anything less? Not according to Gods word.
1 Peter 4:12 ¶ Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If you mean the God of the Old Testament, then yes. The God of the Old Testament consists of the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
God doesn't change. The O.T. God is the Trinity as well.
So, once again, Muslims don't worship the same God as we do. Your Pope is deceived, and a liar.
Once again, don't confuse people sharing the truth, with hatred.
If we hated you, or other Catholics, we would encourage you to stay in the Roman Catholic Church, and gleefully watch you walk toward eternal destruction.
I really think yall enjoy telling others they are wrong! Its almost like the KKK here, only protestants and no Catholics
We are concerned for your soul, and the souls of other Catholics. And yes, we certainly enjoy the truth. The truth has set us free - and can do the same for you.