Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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God, through the Catholic Church, gave you the bible. You can deny this, and of course you would be wrong,

No. God gave us the bible long before the catholic church was created.

You want people to start treating you nice, yet you continue to give MAN credit where God should get the glory.. don;t expect the people of God to go easy on you when you puff up men. in place of God.
 

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4 Little words "ITS NOT IN THERE" OK? GOT IT? Its dogma

It's NOT dogma.. your "theologians" are wrong. Now let me ask you a question, and I'm NOT attacking you.. Your profile says you're a christian, BUT you obviously still believe the false lies of the RCC. True christians believe that JESUS was immaculately begotten of God. Catholics believe that MARY was the immmaculately conceived of God.

That statement you believe so strongly in, that Mary and not Jesus, was immaculately conceived, is a lie straight from the pits of hell itself!!!

IT IS NOT TRUE that Mary was immaculately conceived.. Satan is keeping you believing this lie.

IT IS TRUE that JESUS was the immaculately conceived begotten of God. This is bible fact. Straight from God's word himself.


Now my question is this: how can you honestly call yourself a christian when you don't even believe that JESUS is the begotten son of God?
 
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It's NOT dogma.. your "theologians" are wrong. Now let me ask you a question, and I'm NOT attacking you.. Your profile says you're a christian, BUT you obviously still believe the false lies of the RCC. True christians believe that JESUS was immaculately begotten of God. Catholics believe that MARY was the immmaculately conceived of God.

That statement you believe so strongly in, that Mary and not Jesus, was immaculately conceived, is a lie straight from the pits of hell itself!!!

IT IS NOT TRUE that Mary was immaculately conceived.. Satan is keeping you believing this lie.

IT IS TRUE that JESUS was the immaculately conceived begotten of God. This is bible fact. Straight from God's word himself.


Now my question is this: how can you honestly call yourself a christian when you don't even believe that JESUS is the begotten son of God?
Ladybug, (cute name by the way) i never said Jesus was not begotten. The celebration of the Immaculate Conception is of the birth of Mary without original sin. Like I keep saying, please look it up because , just like here right now, that concept is misunderstood. Kinda like earlier when i , wrongly, thought you were saying Jesus had two human parents .
 
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You see we have, Sacred Scriptures( the 73 books of the bible), Sacred Tradition passed on orally, and the Magisterium that is the final authority. People, this is what i believe is real and judging by the wide range of opinions here, Go It Alone, doesn't seem to be working
You have no clue what our authority really is. It is God, and His word. Not 73 books, but 66, not traditions of men (nothing sacred there), nor the Magisterium.

The true believer never does it alone. We have the indwelling Spirit of God to lead and guide us in His truth.
 
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It's NOT dogma.. your "theologians" are wrong. Now let me ask you a question, and I'm NOT attacking you.. Your profile says you're a christian, BUT you obviously still believe the false lies of the RCC. True christians believe that JESUS was immaculately begotten of God. Catholics believe that MARY was the immmaculately conceived of God.

That statement you believe so strongly in, that Mary and not Jesus, was immaculately conceived, is a lie straight from the pits of hell itself!!!

IT IS NOT TRUE that Mary was immaculately conceived.. Satan is keeping you believing this lie.

IT IS TRUE that JESUS was the immaculately conceived begotten of God. This is bible fact. Straight from God's word himself.


Now my question is this: how can you honestly call yourself a christian when you don't even believe that JESUS is the begotten son of God?
I Love Jesus with all my heart and soul. How can you say i don't when i correct a tiny error in dogma on your side? Ya'll do this to me all day and I know for sure that the Catholic words "Immaculate Conseption" refer to Mary's birth without original sin! It is a teaching of the Church that you protestants ," taking a Catholic teaching" and saying it is something. different. Yes, we most certainly teach and know that Jesus is the one and only begotten Son of God!!!!!!! Have you ever read the Nicine Creed?? What about the Apostles Creed?
 
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You have no clue what our authority really is. It is God, and His word. Not 73 books, but 66, not traditions of men (nothing sacred there), nor the Magisterium.

The true believer never does it alone. We have the indwelling Spirit of God to lead and guide us in His truth.
In other words you go it alone and that is why all I see on this site is confusion. If I were to believe you, then i have to believe there are thousands of Holy Spirits each teaching something diffferent because you all claim the Holy Spirit here and just a glance at these threads shows that can't be right
 
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Ladybug, (cute name by the way) i never said Jesus was not begotten. The celebration of the Immaculate Conception is of the birth of Mary without original sin. Like I keep saying, please look it up because , just like here right now, that concept is misunderstood. Kinda like earlier when i , wrongly, thought you were saying Jesus had two human parents .
That concept is a man-made one...fallible in all respects. So, look what up? It isn't taught by God, nor does it even mean anything.

Mary was a normal human girl who was devout in her Judaism. God chose her for her heart and her willingness to submit to His will. She was not sinless in any way. Jesus didn't require sinlessness to be born. He is sinless. He just required a willing, available uterus and a loving mother and father with His chosen lineage to nurture and raise Him
 

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Ladybug, (cute name by the way) i never said Jesus was not begotten. The celebration of the Immaculate Conception is of the birth of Mary without original sin. Like I keep saying, please look it up because , just like here right now, that concept is misunderstood. Kinda like earlier when i , wrongly, thought you were saying Jesus had two human parents .

ok, try to understand this:

1.) Jesus did have two human parents, BUT Joseph was not His biological father. God was. So technically, Jesus had 2 fathers, one earthly, one heavenly. :)

2.) Mary was born to human parents. She was NOT immaculately conceived. She WAS a sinner, but held in high favor by God. Since Mary was born to human parents, and was fully human herself, she also was born with sin, as are all humans. She did NOT have magic powers that kept her sinless in the womb.

3.) The ONLY begotten child of God was Jesus. Not Jesus AND Mary. There is no misunderstanding this concept unless you happen to be a catholic. The bible itself says Jesus was the only begotten of God. Read John 3:16.

4.) As long as you keep believing that Mary WAS immaculately conceived, satan's gonna drag you down further and further until you end up where he is. :(

You want to be a true Christian? Stop believing that Mary was immaculately conceived, because no TRUE, honest christian believes any of that poppycock..

The RCC is a false religion, and the pope is a false prophet, and they worship satan, NOT God. The RCC is evil and the sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be..
 
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That concept is a man-made one...fallible in all respects. So, look what up? It isn't taught by God, nor does it even mean anything.

Mary was a normal human girl who was devout in her Judaism. God chose her for her heart and her willingness to submit to His will. She was not sinless in any way. Jesus didn't require sinlessness to be born. He is sinless. He just required a willing, available uterus and a loving mother and father with His chosen lineage to nurture and raise Him
( mwc68 bangs his head into the wall) they don't want to know, yet still insult his beliefs
 
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In other words you go it alone and that is why all I see on this site is confusion. If I were to believe you, then i have to believe there are thousands of Holy Spirits each teaching something diffferent because you all claim the Holy Spirit here and just a glance at these threads shows that can't be right
A Christian doesn't "go it alone". We have our friendship with God through our relationship with Holy Spirit who lives in us...and the fellowship of one another. There is only ONE Holy Spirit.

That there are differences, just shows how we all have minds of our own, but those who are truly walking with God have unity with others of the same mind and heart in Christ. Some differences will always be until the Kingdom Age, but we have unity in Christ as promised, just the same.
 
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( mwc68 bangs his head into the wall) they don't want to know, yet still insult his beliefs
The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1834...a latecomer of a lying doctrine of men.
 

blue_ladybug

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( mwc68 bangs his head into the wall) they don't want to know, yet still insult his beliefs

she's not insulting you, she's speaking the truth that YOU obviously don't want to hear..
 
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ok, try to understand this:

1.) Jesus did have two human parents, BUT Joseph was not His biological father. God was. So technically, Jesus had 2 fathers, one earthly, one heavenly. :)

2.) Mary was born to human parents. She was NOT immaculately conceived. She WAS a sinner, but held in high favor by God. Since Mary was born to human parents, and was fully human herself, she also was born with sin, as are all humans. She did NOT have magic powers that kept her sinless in the womb.

3.) The ONLY begotten child of God was Jesus. Not Jesus AND Mary. There is no misunderstanding this concept unless you happen to be a catholic. The bible itself says Jesus was the only begotten of God. Read John 3:16.

4.) As long as you keep believing that Mary WAS immaculately conceived, satan's gonna drag you down further and further until you end up where he is. :(

You want to be a true Christian? Stop believing that Mary was immaculately conceived, because no TRUE, honest christian believes any of that poppycock..

The RCC is a false religion, and the pope is a false prophet, and they worship satan, NOT God. The RCC is evil and the sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be..
I have never known a pope to be a prophet! More lies you are being taught . Matter of fact when pope Francis became pope, he prayed God would forgive them for electing him. Sounds more like humility than an Antichist bent on destroying Christians! And save all that dragon comes like a lamb. I have read the back of the book also
 
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A Christian doesn't "go it alone". We have our friendship with God through our relationship with Holy Spirit who lives in us...and the fellowship of one another. There is only ONE Holy Spirit.

That there are differences, just shows how we all have minds of our own, but those who are truly walking with God have unity with others of the same mind and heart in Christ. Some differences will always be until the Kingdom Age, but we have unity in Christ as promised, just the same.
Nice dodge, but i ain't buying it
 
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I have never known a pope to be a prophet! More lies you are being taught . Matter of fact when pope Francis became pope, he prayed God would forgive them for electing him. Sounds more like humility than an Antichist bent on destroying Christians! And save all that dragon comes like a lamb. I have read the back of the book also
Anyone who actually knows the Lord Jesus Christ and has an intimate relationship with Him and was elected Pope would actually refuse the man-bestowed honour...for accepting it is a sin in itself. Being elevated to a position like that is agreeing with it and accepting all the adoration and adulation that men give him. It is sin.
 
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Nice dodge, but i ain't buying it
Hey, you are the one doing all the dodging.

There is nothing evasive is giving you the honest, biblical truth. Christians are one in Christ. We are family. We'd love to have you join us.
 

blue_ladybug

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In all honesty, I truly doubt your christianity status, mcw68.. You're still mired in the lies of the RCC. Christians don't believe a word of what the RCC or pope has to say. The god the pope spoke about was NOT the God of the christians. And Nancy was spot on in her post #7157. :) To elevate the pope (or anyone) to that level is a sin. You are to give adulation to God, NOT the evil Pope..

You cannot profess to be a christian AND still be in the catholic faith. You need to abandon ALL the RCC beliefs and teachings if you want to be a christian..

You can't serve God AND the pope.. just as a Muslim cannot serve both God AND Muhammed..
 
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In all honesty, I truly doubt your christianity status, mcw68.. You're still mired in the lies of the RCC. Christians don't believe a word of what the RCC or pope has to say. The god the pope spoke about was NOT the God of the christians. And Nancy was spot on in her post #7157. :) To elevate the pope (or anyone) to that level is a sin. You are to give adulation to God, NOT the evil Pope..

You cannot profess to be a christian AND still be in the catholic faith. You need to abandon ALL the RCC beliefs and teachings if you want to be a christian..

You can't serve God AND the pope.. just as a Muslim cannot serve both God AND Muhammed..
That is where you are very wrong!!!! You assume I hold the pope over God or any man. That is blatantly false!!! In the last 3 mths have I ever said anything like that? Man, I qualify to be pope, but I don't want it. ( I am a baptised and confirmed and male in good standing with the church. I'm old enough,too)I can't hold in any esteem an office an old headbanger like me would be qualified for. Now having said that doesn't mean I don't give the office respect! I don't think the pope is God (how many times Lord do I have to say it?)nor do I think he is anywhere close to God. But for real people, somebody has to lead the Church. Doesn't somebody at your church have final say when it comes to decisions? Somebody is the governing authority when it comes to decisions from financial all the way to when the next potluck dinner or ice cream social is. Is that person in your church the Antichrist?