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Thats the poem, and yeah that was just beautiful. I recall I thought she was nuts because she could look away from that so easily (lol!)
And I am not a romantic, I am just so not into romance. Maybe there must be something wrong with me. Because I dont have an appreciation for flowers, trinket gifts and a certain kind of sweet talk that gets on my nerves, you call it the ooey gooey stuff. No, I dont like that.
But I still loved the poem, and yeah, because it revealed your not always an ogre (lol)
Can I call you Shrek?
(Just kidding).
And I am not a romantic, I am just so not into romance. Maybe there must be something wrong with me. Because I dont have an appreciation for flowers, trinket gifts and a certain kind of sweet talk that gets on my nerves, you call it the ooey gooey stuff. No, I dont like that.
But I still loved the poem, and yeah, because it revealed your not always an ogre (lol)
Can I call you Shrek?
(Just kidding).
J
Before answering this question, here's a disclaimer:
I am not God.
Obviously...but I said that just to let you all know that the best answer that I can offer is based upon my own understanding of God and His Word coupled with my own observations in relation to my wife and my children.
My wife?
Well, she claims to be a Christian and, in fact, she's presently attending an online Christian college and guess what her major is (this literally blows my mind...as if it's some sort of cosmic joke)?
Christian counseling.
You need to understand that my wife has not only sought to take my own children away from me PERMANENTLY by lying her head off to Police Officers, a Judge and to God Himself by placing her hand upon a Bible and SWEARING "to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God", but that she has also been spreading lies about me to basically everyone that she knows FOR YEARS. This "everyone she knows" includes Pastors, congregants, family members on both sides, friends, neighbors, counselors (yes, we've been to counselors before) and even strangers. Furthermore, although she hasn't done it for a while, she used to regularly walk around the house, her arms outstretched towards heaven while SHOUTING:
"PRAISE YOU, JESUS...HALLELUJAH! THANK YOU FOR DELIVERING ME FROM THE CULT OF MY HUSBAND!"
I'm a "cult"?
Anyhow, my wife and I met at a Bible study that I was teaching somewhere around 14 1/2 to 15 years ago. Initially, her heart was truly towards the Lord and He was constantly striving with her in the area of repentance. Again, my wife is from Panama and while she was living there she was LITERALLY (I'm not joking) practicing to become a witch. You know what they say about "practice", don't you?
Practice makes perfect.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to my wife...I'm truly not...but I'm just trying to answer your question to the best of my ability. Anyhow, several years ago, my wife got this "revelation" from "god" (and I know just which "god" it was) that I'm a heretic and a child of the devil and that she should never listen to anything that I have to say. I wish that I was joking, but I'm not. In fact, she once told me that a voice spoke to her and told her to write "666" on my forehead. lol. Valentine's Day should be interesting...
Anyhow, my wife fully believes that she is a Christian and that I'm a child of the devil and, basically, as sad as it is to have to say this, I basically believe the exact opposite. I pretty much just leave my wife to her own devices without compromising my own walk with the Lord. Again, just having a Bible study with my children generally causes my wife to erupt and to go berserk, so I'd have to say that she definitely has some issues.
My children?
Well, I've got three (and all with my wife...we've both only been married once)...two daughters (the eldest will turn 12 this weekend and the other is 9) and one son (age 7). My biggest concern is with our eldest in that she's basically turning out to be just like her mother. Oh, she reads her Bible every morning, goes to church every Sunday and attends a youth group every Friday night, but she basically hates everybody...and I'm not joking. I'm ever teaching her about love and she just told me within the last few days that she thinks that I'm crazy. Well, there goes the father/daughter dance...lol.
My other two children seem to have much more tender hearts, but they're basically in a tug-o-war between what I preach and practice and what my wife preaches and practices.
That's pretty much it...even though I could greatly elaborate.
I am not God.
Obviously...but I said that just to let you all know that the best answer that I can offer is based upon my own understanding of God and His Word coupled with my own observations in relation to my wife and my children.
My wife?
Well, she claims to be a Christian and, in fact, she's presently attending an online Christian college and guess what her major is (this literally blows my mind...as if it's some sort of cosmic joke)?
Christian counseling.
You need to understand that my wife has not only sought to take my own children away from me PERMANENTLY by lying her head off to Police Officers, a Judge and to God Himself by placing her hand upon a Bible and SWEARING "to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God", but that she has also been spreading lies about me to basically everyone that she knows FOR YEARS. This "everyone she knows" includes Pastors, congregants, family members on both sides, friends, neighbors, counselors (yes, we've been to counselors before) and even strangers. Furthermore, although she hasn't done it for a while, she used to regularly walk around the house, her arms outstretched towards heaven while SHOUTING:
"PRAISE YOU, JESUS...HALLELUJAH! THANK YOU FOR DELIVERING ME FROM THE CULT OF MY HUSBAND!"
I'm a "cult"?
Anyhow, my wife and I met at a Bible study that I was teaching somewhere around 14 1/2 to 15 years ago. Initially, her heart was truly towards the Lord and He was constantly striving with her in the area of repentance. Again, my wife is from Panama and while she was living there she was LITERALLY (I'm not joking) practicing to become a witch. You know what they say about "practice", don't you?
Practice makes perfect.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to my wife...I'm truly not...but I'm just trying to answer your question to the best of my ability. Anyhow, several years ago, my wife got this "revelation" from "god" (and I know just which "god" it was) that I'm a heretic and a child of the devil and that she should never listen to anything that I have to say. I wish that I was joking, but I'm not. In fact, she once told me that a voice spoke to her and told her to write "666" on my forehead. lol. Valentine's Day should be interesting...
Anyhow, my wife fully believes that she is a Christian and that I'm a child of the devil and, basically, as sad as it is to have to say this, I basically believe the exact opposite. I pretty much just leave my wife to her own devices without compromising my own walk with the Lord. Again, just having a Bible study with my children generally causes my wife to erupt and to go berserk, so I'd have to say that she definitely has some issues.
My children?
Well, I've got three (and all with my wife...we've both only been married once)...two daughters (the eldest will turn 12 this weekend and the other is 9) and one son (age 7). My biggest concern is with our eldest in that she's basically turning out to be just like her mother. Oh, she reads her Bible every morning, goes to church every Sunday and attends a youth group every Friday night, but she basically hates everybody...and I'm not joking. I'm ever teaching her about love and she just told me within the last few days that she thinks that I'm crazy. Well, there goes the father/daughter dance...lol.
My other two children seem to have much more tender hearts, but they're basically in a tug-o-war between what I preach and practice and what my wife preaches and practices.
That's pretty much it...even though I could greatly elaborate.
J
First of all, you so know that I'm not here looking for money, but rather for direction from God for my life and I know that you know that, but I'm just mentioning it for the benefit of others who might not realize that you and I have known each other for about 9 years now and that we've regularly privately communicated with each other during that timeframe.
Secondly, you also know that my conscience is bound to the Word of God and that there is certainly much truth in what you've said which I would never seek to deny.
Lastly, I don't know what to say...you can PM me if you want to...but just give me some time to take down the electrically charged fence first...lol.
Incidentally, a friend of mine just called me and she thinks that I've missed my true calling in life:
A comedian.
No joke...she just told me that a few minutes ago.
Anyhow, sometimes you just have to laugh...
Secondly, you also know that my conscience is bound to the Word of God and that there is certainly much truth in what you've said which I would never seek to deny.
Lastly, I don't know what to say...you can PM me if you want to...but just give me some time to take down the electrically charged fence first...lol.
Incidentally, a friend of mine just called me and she thinks that I've missed my true calling in life:
A comedian.
No joke...she just told me that a few minutes ago.
Anyhow, sometimes you just have to laugh...
Me and you are going through home dilemas. And our house is perfectly ripe for creating whatever this house mold/ leporsy thing is as you know a little of what we have been dealing with for the past couple of years.
And I even took the reigns from my husband who wanted to sue them (stayed his hand in this) and ran fifty miles with these people until the unrelenting game playing took its toll on me, I just couldnt handle it coming in through as many of them (who were tied into this thing)as there were. So I handed them over to Satan (thats what my husband jokingly calls himself when I remove something from him) in order to do it the nice way. Thats his way of spoofing on me (his christian wife) because he doesnt take much crap (before he has had it) and takes tougher measures.
I might have a problem with control there, but not because I desire to be dominant, I will take back the control and do so in order to prevent going where I know my husband will take it (who you know is an unbeliever). That makes it difficult for me sometimes to let go and so I did take the control back to myself, and it was a disaster, all of my invested time to make things right (the right way) felt like a waste of my time.
In this one took back the reigns from him (and failed in it). I threw up my hands into the air and gave it to him and now we have lawsuits galore, three going now and three more behind those because we encountered fraud to a large extent (and it expanded during that time) maybe because I made it known I wanted to avoid court and handle it in a way that could appease both (my husband as well). That couldnt be done, they took my kindness for stupidity but I kept immaculate records, video tape and digital voice recordings,and all the like and handed over several inches paperwork to my husband, and when the attorney saw that he dropped any retainer fees, and hired more attorneys into this, because the whole thing was so laden with fault against on their end (just this week one has been found in contempt).
I really did not want to go down that road, and we have a contractor like you come in and rip us off. We have a special fan built into this one portaion of our home (the one receiving most of the rain into the inside) which sometimes goes down behind the walls, best thing we have going is that its cedar (which is highly resistent to mold) but the fan motor blew out because of overuse (but you have to mitigate) and a newer one require a cut in (which would void any claim to do) so our hands our tied, in the meantime the humidity in SC, and the condensation is now showing this black stuff in certain areas, I have no idea what that is and we have already paid for a preliminary mold report, but the testing has not been done yet, since a attorney has been obtained between the time.
Its like intermission right now, and I know you know we have had our share of hard times in the past, such as my daughter Em dying at 6 years old in 2005, me having a stroke not long after, then my back starting up and being bedridden for 2 years (which is my reccurring nightmare) and then one thing after the next until this roof deal which reaching well over $30,000 now given the length of time its gone on.
Ironic thing in this (I have his card still if you dont believe me) the guy who sold me the job has your same first and last name (which I wont share openly) but how strange is that huh? lol
Well, I had always expressed I wanted to get out of this house, its just that he wants to stay, and so maybe this is an out of it somehow. I dont know.
But when you ask about being tried for things not your fault, I was born with scoliosis (upper back) so I dont see how that was my fault, and kicked in 5th grade (lower part) and must have been touched by an angel for my sciatica (as i believe thats where Jacob was touched and began limping) and whatever else is messed up back there so... I dont know what I did if I did something.
Im no Job, so I dont think I can come out and say there isnt any cause for correction, if correction come in such a manner, but most of the time when correction come its like I know what I did wrong somehow through it, otherwise I feel unfruitful in my knowledge concerning what I have done.
And I even took the reigns from my husband who wanted to sue them (stayed his hand in this) and ran fifty miles with these people until the unrelenting game playing took its toll on me, I just couldnt handle it coming in through as many of them (who were tied into this thing)as there were. So I handed them over to Satan (thats what my husband jokingly calls himself when I remove something from him) in order to do it the nice way. Thats his way of spoofing on me (his christian wife) because he doesnt take much crap (before he has had it) and takes tougher measures.
I might have a problem with control there, but not because I desire to be dominant, I will take back the control and do so in order to prevent going where I know my husband will take it (who you know is an unbeliever). That makes it difficult for me sometimes to let go and so I did take the control back to myself, and it was a disaster, all of my invested time to make things right (the right way) felt like a waste of my time.
In this one took back the reigns from him (and failed in it). I threw up my hands into the air and gave it to him and now we have lawsuits galore, three going now and three more behind those because we encountered fraud to a large extent (and it expanded during that time) maybe because I made it known I wanted to avoid court and handle it in a way that could appease both (my husband as well). That couldnt be done, they took my kindness for stupidity but I kept immaculate records, video tape and digital voice recordings,and all the like and handed over several inches paperwork to my husband, and when the attorney saw that he dropped any retainer fees, and hired more attorneys into this, because the whole thing was so laden with fault against on their end (just this week one has been found in contempt).
I really did not want to go down that road, and we have a contractor like you come in and rip us off. We have a special fan built into this one portaion of our home (the one receiving most of the rain into the inside) which sometimes goes down behind the walls, best thing we have going is that its cedar (which is highly resistent to mold) but the fan motor blew out because of overuse (but you have to mitigate) and a newer one require a cut in (which would void any claim to do) so our hands our tied, in the meantime the humidity in SC, and the condensation is now showing this black stuff in certain areas, I have no idea what that is and we have already paid for a preliminary mold report, but the testing has not been done yet, since a attorney has been obtained between the time.
Its like intermission right now, and I know you know we have had our share of hard times in the past, such as my daughter Em dying at 6 years old in 2005, me having a stroke not long after, then my back starting up and being bedridden for 2 years (which is my reccurring nightmare) and then one thing after the next until this roof deal which reaching well over $30,000 now given the length of time its gone on.
Ironic thing in this (I have his card still if you dont believe me) the guy who sold me the job has your same first and last name (which I wont share openly) but how strange is that huh? lol
Well, I had always expressed I wanted to get out of this house, its just that he wants to stay, and so maybe this is an out of it somehow. I dont know.
But when you ask about being tried for things not your fault, I was born with scoliosis (upper back) so I dont see how that was my fault, and kicked in 5th grade (lower part) and must have been touched by an angel for my sciatica (as i believe thats where Jacob was touched and began limping) and whatever else is messed up back there so... I dont know what I did if I did something.
Im no Job, so I dont think I can come out and say there isnt any cause for correction, if correction come in such a manner, but most of the time when correction come its like I know what I did wrong somehow through it, otherwise I feel unfruitful in my knowledge concerning what I have done.
J
Do you remember that onion eating/Cremora drinking/angels delivering money testimony that I shared? Well, here's what led up to the same:
As you already know, my wife and I got married on the beach in Florida and we lived there for about 9 months before moving up to NJ (we currently reside in PA as you also already know). Why Florida? Well, a group of people who knew me through a mutual friend basically begged me to come down to Florida and to have Bible studies with them. They were ALL tremendously in sin (I won't give the details) and I told them as much before I even considered agreeing to their request and they admitted as much. As such, I told them that I was basically the last person that they should be inviting to have Bible studies with them unless they were considering repenting (they were in MAJOR sin) and they still basically begged me to go down there so I did. Anyhow, I was like stone cold broke at that time because I was only working part time and doing a lot of street preaching back then. God did such miraculous things in relation to finances that it was literally like I was living in the pages of the Bible. IOW, He was providing for us (my wife and I), left and right, and I, in turn, was obediently sharing His Word with everybody involved. That's the good news. The bad news is that after several months everybody turned on us (it was literally like a lynch mob) after one couple actually announced that they were going to repent (they were both living in adultery) and all hell broke loose. One guy went so far as to swerve his box truck across the lanes in the highway right towards my vehicle which was travelling in the opposite direction. I mean things got UGLY! Anyhow, I was perfectly willing to move on...but my wife wasn't. No, she was enjoying the house, the beach, etc., etc...but the same God Who had been providing for us all along basically withdrew His hand and that's what led up to my previous testimony. When we finally did leave there and head up to NJ, then God's provisional hand abounded at least as much, if not moreso, than it did when we were in Florida.
I said all of that to say this...
I'm firmly convinced that God was involved in that situation (including the bad parts) and I'm equally convinced that God is involved in my present situation (including the bad parts). Back then, it was my wife's initial refusal to obey God which caused us BOTH problems and that's kind of where I'm heading with the question that I recently asked. IOW, do we sometimes go through trials not simply because of what we have done, but because of things which others closely related/associated with us have done?
As you already know, my wife and I got married on the beach in Florida and we lived there for about 9 months before moving up to NJ (we currently reside in PA as you also already know). Why Florida? Well, a group of people who knew me through a mutual friend basically begged me to come down to Florida and to have Bible studies with them. They were ALL tremendously in sin (I won't give the details) and I told them as much before I even considered agreeing to their request and they admitted as much. As such, I told them that I was basically the last person that they should be inviting to have Bible studies with them unless they were considering repenting (they were in MAJOR sin) and they still basically begged me to go down there so I did. Anyhow, I was like stone cold broke at that time because I was only working part time and doing a lot of street preaching back then. God did such miraculous things in relation to finances that it was literally like I was living in the pages of the Bible. IOW, He was providing for us (my wife and I), left and right, and I, in turn, was obediently sharing His Word with everybody involved. That's the good news. The bad news is that after several months everybody turned on us (it was literally like a lynch mob) after one couple actually announced that they were going to repent (they were both living in adultery) and all hell broke loose. One guy went so far as to swerve his box truck across the lanes in the highway right towards my vehicle which was travelling in the opposite direction. I mean things got UGLY! Anyhow, I was perfectly willing to move on...but my wife wasn't. No, she was enjoying the house, the beach, etc., etc...but the same God Who had been providing for us all along basically withdrew His hand and that's what led up to my previous testimony. When we finally did leave there and head up to NJ, then God's provisional hand abounded at least as much, if not moreso, than it did when we were in Florida.
I said all of that to say this...
I'm firmly convinced that God was involved in that situation (including the bad parts) and I'm equally convinced that God is involved in my present situation (including the bad parts). Back then, it was my wife's initial refusal to obey God which caused us BOTH problems and that's kind of where I'm heading with the question that I recently asked. IOW, do we sometimes go through trials not simply because of what we have done, but because of things which others closely related/associated with us have done?
J
LOL!
Well, some of these things are like an "inside joke" between us in that others don't know what we've endured with each other over the years.
Anyhow, again, I'm no stranger to repentance, so I readily admit that I've been wrong a vast multitude of times throughout my life. When it comes to sharing the Word, however, as long as it is rightly divided, then I'll never find any error in the same in that God is Perfect.
Well, my children are begging me to go sleigh riding with them (we wound up with about a foot of snow) and we do have a golf course which is right in our backyard (our house is often pelted with golf balls from errant shots), so there are some nice hills to navigate.
Btw, although I'm not sure why, every time that I read your post where you basically crapped on "romance", I laugh my head off.
I think that I need help...lol.
Well, some of these things are like an "inside joke" between us in that others don't know what we've endured with each other over the years.
Anyhow, again, I'm no stranger to repentance, so I readily admit that I've been wrong a vast multitude of times throughout my life. When it comes to sharing the Word, however, as long as it is rightly divided, then I'll never find any error in the same in that God is Perfect.
Well, my children are begging me to go sleigh riding with them (we wound up with about a foot of snow) and we do have a golf course which is right in our backyard (our house is often pelted with golf balls from errant shots), so there are some nice hills to navigate.
Btw, although I'm not sure why, every time that I read your post where you basically crapped on "romance", I laugh my head off.
I think that I need help...lol.
Yeah "endurance" thing ( between us) thats the perfect word lol
I missed the "readily admit" part
(in reference to "the vast multitudes of times")
How bout "just once"?
You got a clip of "this miracle"?
(LOL! I couldnt resist that, heh...
you just made that way too easy for me)
Have fun with your children, these are "making memory days"
And I didnt mean to crap on romance, I guess I might as its done today (for the most part). And your poem was actually romantic ( men dont do that anymore) and when they do they typically arent very good at it .
So, even I liked it which I thought would say alot given I havent gotten a romantic bone in my body.
I just didnt throw you into the ooey gooey category
I usually imagine you in boxing ring not in some poets corner.
Your like a mixed breed of poodle and pitbull.
Well, I got to slide myself down to the DMV so my husband can continue driving his delivery truck without the hassel of being pulled over by the police.
I got 3 hours to do so, so I will talk to you later
God bless you and all yours
I missed the "readily admit" part
(in reference to "the vast multitudes of times")
How bout "just once"?
You got a clip of "this miracle"?
(LOL! I couldnt resist that, heh...
you just made that way too easy for me)
Have fun with your children, these are "making memory days"
And I didnt mean to crap on romance, I guess I might as its done today (for the most part). And your poem was actually romantic ( men dont do that anymore) and when they do they typically arent very good at it .
So, even I liked it which I thought would say alot given I havent gotten a romantic bone in my body.
I just didnt throw you into the ooey gooey category
I usually imagine you in boxing ring not in some poets corner.
Your like a mixed breed of poodle and pitbull.
Well, I got to slide myself down to the DMV so my husband can continue driving his delivery truck without the hassel of being pulled over by the police.
I got 3 hours to do so, so I will talk to you later
God bless you and all yours
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J
I know that I've publicly apologized at least twice on this forum already and you should at least recall that "Fonzie" incident from the other forum.
Lol.
I'm definitely NOT in "the ooey gooey category". In my particular case, I think that "passionate" (and that goes way beyond the physical) would be a better descriptor. I used to date a Russian Jewess WAAAAAAY back when and she called me once, 12 years after we broke up, and I asked her, "Why?" She told me that it was because I'm very "passionate" and, again, she wasn't primarily speaking of the physical.
I think that I might have watched "Rocky" and "The Cinderella Man" too many times (I rarely ever watch secular movies, but I do actually like both of those movies because they address some of the struggles which men go through).
A "poo pit"?
I know when I've been insulted...lol.
Later...
Lol.
I'm definitely NOT in "the ooey gooey category". In my particular case, I think that "passionate" (and that goes way beyond the physical) would be a better descriptor. I used to date a Russian Jewess WAAAAAAY back when and she called me once, 12 years after we broke up, and I asked her, "Why?" She told me that it was because I'm very "passionate" and, again, she wasn't primarily speaking of the physical.
I think that I might have watched "Rocky" and "The Cinderella Man" too many times (I rarely ever watch secular movies, but I do actually like both of those movies because they address some of the struggles which men go through).
A "poo pit"?
I know when I've been insulted...lol.
Later...
To be honest, I asked myself these and some other questions while I read that from Leviticus. I intentionally didnt make comment on it though because only God knows your wife and children and foresees this situation. So if I said anything, I could have given you a deadly counsel. I was not given a clear discerning on this one so I better not speak, I just strongly felt it would be good to read those verses. God knows what is His exact plan and He will guide you best. Bless you and praying for you.
Thats a reach...The Fonze "readily" apologizing??
Doesnt the word "readily" in front of the word "apologize" indicate the same would come WITHOUT hestitation OR reluctance?
And this one come to your rememberance? lol
[video=youtube;uwkU8-d1gIk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwkU8-d1gIk[/video]
Im just "rubbing it in" a little.
Okay, you have sufficiently proven (from a few years back as I recall that) that you have the ability to eat crow.
I didnt know you ate anymore of it since that miraculous moment in time
I never saw the Cinderella man, only Rocky and probably many more times then you (cause he was my teen crush) as embarrassing as that is to admit now.
Rocky really wasnt a womanizer, he was just himself (who wasnt too smart) but had a fair build (bodily) but I dont think there is anything to learn in Rocky except how to be punched silly. On any man level anyway.
I must have missed any depth, but afterall I was looking for any back then.
Now I want to see the Cinderella man (I hope you dont mean disneys) lol
Doesnt the word "readily" in front of the word "apologize" indicate the same would come WITHOUT hestitation OR reluctance?
And this one come to your rememberance? lol
[video=youtube;uwkU8-d1gIk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwkU8-d1gIk[/video]
Im just "rubbing it in" a little.
Okay, you have sufficiently proven (from a few years back as I recall that) that you have the ability to eat crow.
I didnt know you ate anymore of it since that miraculous moment in time
I never saw the Cinderella man, only Rocky and probably many more times then you (cause he was my teen crush) as embarrassing as that is to admit now.
Rocky really wasnt a womanizer, he was just himself (who wasnt too smart) but had a fair build (bodily) but I dont think there is anything to learn in Rocky except how to be punched silly. On any man level anyway.
I must have missed any depth, but afterall I was looking for any back then.
Now I want to see the Cinderella man (I hope you dont mean disneys) lol
J
Rocky basically felt that he was a loser and his desire was simply to go the distance with Apollo Creed. Seeing how the Bible uses analogies of "fighting" ("so fight I, not as one who beats the air") and of "finishing our course", I can somewhat relate.
"The Cinderella Man" I can relate to even more because it brings children into the equation, but I don't want to spoil the movie for you.
"The Cinderella Man" I can relate to even more because it brings children into the equation, but I don't want to spoil the movie for you.