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Is there any other SIN that is so openly praised, like being gay? Do people give parades, parties and get applause for cheating, stealing, evading taxes, murdering, molesting, etc? Satan is a liar who whispers 'It's ok. GOD created you that way. Your pituatary gland is sized different. Those holy roller church folk, they're just homophobic!" What makes me sick is that gays think the world needs to stand, salute, accept, and cheerfully praise them because they are lustful with others of the same sex. There is no such thing as a gay who doesn't touch or want to be sexually aroused by someone of their own sex. GET THIS STRAIGHT....GOD does not smile on sodomy. HE created a rainbow as a symbol of HIS promise to not destroy the earth again by a FLOOD; not for that rainbow to be blazenly exhibited as a bumper sticker to tell the world "HEY, look at me..I am a HOMO!
Well I rejoice over the fact that this person was changed. But am I to accept your testimony of this woman's changed life and the method used for the proper procedure regarding such cases over the changed man in the Corinthian Church and the method that Paul prescribed for sexual immorality? I think not.
You can't base success on one hypothetical case, but you need to follow the prescribed procedure outlined in the bible and leave the rest up to God. And who's to say that following your prescribed procedure for handling such matters wouldn't leave a person living in sin the rest of their life?
One thing I might add, it doesn't sound like this woman was openly convinced or boastful about her sexuality being ok and perhaps the Spirit was already at work within her. With that said, I probably would judge each case individually and pray for discernment in the matter. However, open sin, whatever it is, should be confronted in Christian love with humility and love.
You can't base success on one hypothetical case, but you need to follow the prescribed procedure outlined in the bible and leave the rest up to God. And who's to say that following your prescribed procedure for handling such matters wouldn't leave a person living in sin the rest of their life?
One thing I might add, it doesn't sound like this woman was openly convinced or boastful about her sexuality being ok and perhaps the Spirit was already at work within her. With that said, I probably would judge each case individually and pray for discernment in the matter. However, open sin, whatever it is, should be confronted in Christian love with humility and love.
T
Paul's immoral man in Corinthians was already planted in the church at Corinth, not a lost person coming in for hope. Surely you can see the difference. If the young woman had been planted in the church and was known to be a daughter of God by her fruit and lifestyle and then admitted she was leading a life outside the church as a lesbian, it would have been handled totally different.
It also seems to me you think the prescribed policy in Corinthians is for anyone coming into the church who is living an immoral lifestyle, is that what you meant to write? Because that is not at all what is said, much less what the Epistles of Corinthians are about. Think church and church member correction and it might open your eyes.
For the record she was not the only one and I would imagine a lot of those the Lord sent to us at the church would love you despite you calling them and their conversion "hypothetical"
It also seems to me you think the prescribed policy in Corinthians is for anyone coming into the church who is living an immoral lifestyle, is that what you meant to write? Because that is not at all what is said, much less what the Epistles of Corinthians are about. Think church and church member correction and it might open your eyes.
For the record she was not the only one and I would imagine a lot of those the Lord sent to us at the church would love you despite you calling them and their conversion "hypothetical"
If Paul was living today, you'd classify and crucify him as a so called "universalist" as well. Yes I believe all men are saved, because my Lord said He would!
What do you think "new" is? Do not judge this flesh as all there is, but look past the veil and death to see us all made in His image! That is where my eyes are set in EVERYTHING I do!
What do you think "new" is? Do not judge this flesh as all there is, but look past the veil and death to see us all made in His image! That is where my eyes are set in EVERYTHING I do!
This exhibits a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of how this Law was dispensed. Reading your post would make one believe that Israel was nothing more than a bunch of vigilantes dispensing justice with a hanging rope. NOTHING could be further from the truth.
If one were accused of a capital crime, that person had to appear before the Priests, witnesses were called and if the situation were not clear cut and obvious, then they called on God Almighty to show the judgment. If the person were adjudicated guilty, then the penalty was dispensed according to the instructions in the Law. The Priests used the instructions to carry out justice exactly as God instructed them.
In Leviticus, the Laws that were given and the justice dispensed was much more equitable than that of today. Do you think that Eric Garner received justice? Do you suppose Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu received justice?
There are actually very few Laws that demand capital punishment. Thieves were to restore what they stole with an added penalty.
Now, let's see you put your money where your mouth is and show us where Leviticus says to execute someone for wearing mixed garments.
If one were accused of a capital crime, that person had to appear before the Priests, witnesses were called and if the situation were not clear cut and obvious, then they called on God Almighty to show the judgment. If the person were adjudicated guilty, then the penalty was dispensed according to the instructions in the Law. The Priests used the instructions to carry out justice exactly as God instructed them.
In Leviticus, the Laws that were given and the justice dispensed was much more equitable than that of today. Do you think that Eric Garner received justice? Do you suppose Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu received justice?
There are actually very few Laws that demand capital punishment. Thieves were to restore what they stole with an added penalty.
Now, let's see you put your money where your mouth is and show us where Leviticus says to execute someone for wearing mixed garments.
Luke 14:26
New American Standard Bible
"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.
Anyone can quote scripture, not everyone can properly discern it.
New American Standard Bible
"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.
Anyone can quote scripture, not everyone can properly discern it.
The OP is looking for a church that will openly accept his sexual orientation. This isn't some guy coming off the street curious about what the church is about. He says he knows what the bible says about homosexuality, and he's not look for the church or God to change him, but wanting to change the church.
Also, what is the main purpose gathering of the saints, is to evangelize those that are there, NO, although this may happen, it is for corporate worship and to teach those there to evangelize and to send them out.
Also, what is the main purpose gathering of the saints, is to evangelize those that are there, NO, although this may happen, it is for corporate worship and to teach those there to evangelize and to send them out.
That is true. Now ask yourself, do you literally hate your mother or children? Then I suggest you seek understand of what He means by this.
For those that would like to know, this is the crucifying of the flesh in your mind. No greater love there is than for a man to give his life for others.
You know what my kids got from me for Christmas? Nothing. Do you know how that makes me look to their moms? My family? But I sacrifice for them, taking on the reproach in order to raise them in the path of the Lord. They do not have to live this lifestyle of ours where it's survival of the fittest.
For those that would like to know, this is the crucifying of the flesh in your mind. No greater love there is than for a man to give his life for others.
You know what my kids got from me for Christmas? Nothing. Do you know how that makes me look to their moms? My family? But I sacrifice for them, taking on the reproach in order to raise them in the path of the Lord. They do not have to live this lifestyle of ours where it's survival of the fittest.
K
Flaming Spirit now Servant of God, are we telling the truth there? I dont think so. I exclude no one.God does! You cannot continue in a gay lifestyle and have hope of heaven.Thats what the Bible says,end of story.You cannot continue any sin and reach heaven.But we are talking about homosexuals because that is what the OP brought up.