Ezekiel's Temple

[JimmieD]

Can't be. (If one is a preterist that is.)

So do you think that there is a temple to be built soon that is 1.75 x 1.75 miles in size? You do realize this is bigger than the temple mount, right?

 

[JesusIsAll]

Now unless something very miraculous happened overnight and has yet to be reported, the Dead Sea is STILL DEAD. It has not been healed yet. At the return of Christ, the waters flowing from the Temple in Jerusalem will heal the Dead Sea.

People around Engedi to this day would take umbrage at being symbolic or ghosts, also.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Another interesting feature of Ezekiel's temple is that it was described as being about 1.75 miles by 1.75 miles in size (42:15-20) - which was about the size of the entire ancient city.

I don't know that this was meant to be an actual building. I think Ezekiel may be saying something else.

Having misplaced my measuring rod, probably stolen by a mover, years ago, there are a number of Bible translations that zero in on a somewhat lower number of 875 feet, but "who knows" legitimate disagreements out there. In any case, this temple and surroundings is much too large for the existing Temple Mount, if much of Ezekiel's temple were even of Judaism past.

 

[JesusIsAll]

And Ezekiel's temple has living water flowing from it. Did the second temple even have indoor plumbing?

 

[JesusIsAll]

Can't be. (If one is a preterist that is.)

Don't know why the Preterist even needs a Bible, when they're just going to make it up as they go along. Their hermeneutics? "I can't understand it, so it's got to be symbolic."

 

[JimmieD]

Having misplaced my measuring rod, probably stolen by a mover, years ago, there are a number of Bible translations that zero in on a somewhat lower number of 875 feet, but "who knows" legitimate disagreements out there. In any case, this temple and surroundings is much too large for the existing Temple Mount, if much of Ezekiel's temple were even of Judaism past.

The size of a Babylonian reed is well known. In Eze 42:15-20 he is explicitly using a reed.

I did my previous conversion wrong too. It's 1 mile by 1 mile. Still much bigger than the temple mount.

500 reeds = 1600m = 1 miles

 

[JesusIsAll]

The size of a Babylonian reed is well known. In Eze 42:15-20 he is explicitly using a reed.

I did my previous conversion wrong too. It's 1 mile by 1 mile. Still much bigger than the temple mount.

500 reeds = 1600m = 1 miles

Could be, and, whatever, it do be big! (A few Bible translators are coming for you, albeit some also-ran translations, like the NLT.)

 

[Straightshot]

Do I have to post this again?

Zechariah
14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.


Can the Lord rearrange spacing requirements for His millennial temple?

People who dink around with Bible prophecy and attempt to spew out their cause with claimed spurious knowledge bark at the wind

..... and walk right past a prophet's truth

 

[jahsoul]

JimmyD beat me to the measurements...LOL

 

[Straightshot]

And this one


Zechariah
14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

.... and the preterist draws their metaphorical sword, cuts the truth and pounds it into mush

Oh no they say .... this can not be literal, but some kind of feathered chicken dance

 

[JimmieD]

Do I have to post this again?

Zechariah
14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.


Can the Lord rearrange spacing requirements for His millennial temple?

People who dink around with Bible prophecy and attempt to spew out their cause with claimed spurious knowledge bark at the wind

..... and walk right past a prophet's truth

Ezekiel also describes Jerusalem as having gates, but Zechariah says the city doesn't have walls because it won't need them:

Zech2:1 I looked again, and there was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2:2 I asked, “Where are you going?” He replied, “To measure Jerusalem[SUP] [/SUP]in order to determine its width and its length.” 2:3 At this point the angelic messenger who spoke to me went out, and another messenger came to meet him 2:4 and said to him, “Hurry, speak to this young man as follows: ‘Jerusalem will no longer be enclosed by walls because of the multitude of people and animals there. 2:5 But I (the Lord says) will be a wall of fire surrounding Jerusalem and the source of glory in her midst.’”

 

[john832]

So do you think that there is a temple to be built soon that is 1.75 x 1.75 miles in size? You do realize this is bigger than the temple mount, right?

And you do realize that there will be a tremendous amount of seismic activity at that time, don't you?

Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that the topography of the Temple Mount area will be the same then as it is now.

 

[john832]

Ezekiel also describes Jerusalem as having gates, but Zechariah says the city doesn't have walls because it won't need them:

Zech2:1 I looked again, and there was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2:2 I asked, “Where are you going?” He replied, “To measure Jerusalem[SUP] [/SUP]in order to determine its width and its length.” 2:3 At this point the angelic messenger who spoke to me went out, and another messenger came to meet him 2:4 and said to him, “Hurry, speak to this young man as follows: ‘Jerusalem will no longer be enclosed by walls because of the multitude of people and animals there. 2:5 But I (the Lord says) will be a wall of fire surrounding Jerusalem and the source of glory in her midst.’”

Oh, so then the Bible is unreliable?

 

[JesusIsAll]

Ezekiel also describes Jerusalem as having gates, but Zechariah says the city doesn't have walls because it won't need them:

Zech2:1 I looked again, and there was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2:2 I asked, “Where are you going?” He replied, “To measure Jerusalemin order to determine its width and its length.” 2:3 At this point the angelic messenger who spoke to me went out, and another messenger came to meet him 2:4 and said to him, “Hurry, speak to this young man as follows: ‘Jerusalem will no longer be enclosed by walls because of the multitude of people and animals there. 2:5 But I (the Lord says) will be a wall of fire surrounding Jerusalem and the source of glory in her midst.’”

Ezekiel describes Jerusalem? Old Jerusalem had walls, but not much now (walls are obsolete for war protection, only work for some pesky neighbors anymore), and not in the millennium. Jerusalem is neither just the temple, but a city, the walls of the Ezekiel temple nothing to do with the logistics of the city sprawl of Jerusalem.

 

[JesusIsAll]

JimmyD beat me to the measurements...LOL

Once some Bible translators are done with you guys, templemount.org is going to come after what's left of you, to whit also coming in at 875 feet square. And these guys are the real deal of the Old Testament, hanging out in Tel Aviv.

 

[JimmieD]

Ezekiel describes Jerusalem? Old Jerusalem had walls, but not much now (walls are obsolete for war protection, only work for some pesky neighbors anymore), and not in the millennium. Jerusalem is neither just the temple, but a city, the walls of the Ezekiel temple nothing to do with the logistics of the city sprawl of Jerusalem.

I don't understand what you're saying. I think you're saying that Ezekiel describes the city but doesn't include the outskirts while Zechariah is talking about the city plus the outskirts. Do I understand you correctly?

Once some Bible translators are done with you guys, templemount.org is going to come after what's left of you, to whit also coming in at 875 feet square. And these guys are the real deal of the Old Testament, hanging out in Tel Aviv.

Is this the equivalent of saying when you're buddies get here they are really going to beat me up?

So, if you wanted to argue my actual point I think you would have to argue that Ezekiel wasn't using a Babylonian reed in the verses I posted. I don't know how one would argue against that though, since he clearly says it's a reed and Ezekiel is living in Babylon. It would be like saying a guy living in America talking about a measuring stick and measuring out a "yard" didn't really mean "yard" as Americans normally mean it. And no, 500 Babylonian reeds does not equal 875 feet. 500 cubits would be close to 875 feet, but not reeds.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I don't understand what you're saying. I think you're saying that Ezekiel describes the city but doesn't include the outskirts while Zechariah is talking about the city plus the outskirts. Do I understand you correctly?

Neither do I understand what you're saying. Just the Ezekiel temple has walls, the millennial city of Jerusalem not.

Is this the equivalent of saying when you're buddies get here they are really going to beat me up?

So, if you wanted to argue my actual point I think you would have to argue that Ezekiel wasn't using a Babylonian reed in the verses I posted. I don't know how one would argue against that though, since he clearly says it's a reed and Ezekiel is living in Babylon. It would be like saying a guy living in America talking about a measuring stick and measuring out a "yard" didn't really mean "yard" as Americans normally mean it. And no, 500 Babylonian reeds does not equal 875 feet. 500 cubits would be close to 875 feet, but not reeds.

Nobody wants to beat you up, just having a little word fun. Many scholars came up with and come up with 875 feet. If you choose some other measurement, that's fine. I'm not an expert on ancient yardsticks, told you can't find my reed, have nothing to argue from, just tend to go with what others who've made life studies of such things may say, that know more about these things than me. But, okay, if it will make you feel better, others must be wrong, if you're right. It's no real issue to me. Fair enough? Maybe you need to email templemount.org, if you've got something they need to see? Besides, I'm more worked up about the restaurants of Ezekiel's temple lately.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Don't make the mistake of assuming that the topography of the Temple Mount area will be the same then as it is now.

Furthermore, the Lord has power over all things as He wills, is the Creator, can say, "Let there be a river." Let there be anything.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Don't make the mistake of assuming that the topography of the Temple Mount area will be the same then as it is now.

Oh, right, and speaking of walls! You know, the Mount of Olives is across the street from the east side of the Old City (walled). An earthquake that cleaves the Mount of Olives couldn't help but reduce the Old City to rubble, so much for walls?

 

[Straightshot]

When the earth quakes and the Mount of Olives splits

The Lord is going to rearrange the topography big time .... for His millennial temple

It is in the Book