Was Jesus crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday?

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What Day was Jesus crucified ?

  • Wednesday

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • Thursday

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Friday

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • Total voters
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john832

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oldhermit said:
I am not understand your point. The Sabbath was ALWAYS the seventh day of the week. The Passover was ALWAYS preceded by a Sabbath day followed by seven days of feasting and concluded with another Sabbath. Any Seventh day which preceded the Passover was regarded as a High Sabbath. Jesus was buried on the evening preceding the Sabbath, "Therefore because of the Jewish day of preparation, since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there."
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Apparently not. You do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath, don't you? And you do know that it is not the weekly Sabbath, don't you? You do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread fell on Thursday of 31AD, don't you? and you do know that it is a high day, don't you? And you do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread is the high day of John 19:31, don't you? And you do know that it did not fall on the weekly Sabbath that year, don't you? You do know there were two Sabbaths that week, don't you?

The First Day of Unleavened Bread fell on Thursday that week and of course the weekly Sabbath fell on Saturday.

Now how about if you show me how to count three days and three nights from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
 
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john832 said:
And you have a scripture that says that?
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Luke 24:1-5, "But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing; and as the women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living One among the dead?"
 
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oldhermit said:
They prepared the spices before the Sabbath. Luke 23:54-56, "It was the preparation day, and the Sabbath was about to begin.Now the women who had come with Him out of Galilee followed, and saw the tomb and how His body was laid. Then they returned and prepared spices and perfumes. And on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment."
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Whoa, when did they get the spices and prepare them? The day before the Sabbath? If Christ was buried at/about sunset on Friday, when did these ladies go get the spices and prepare them? When they got to the tomb before daylight on Sunday morning, He was already gone.
 
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oldhermit said:
Luke 24:1-5, "But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing; and as the women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living One among the dead?"
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Yep, on the first day of the week when the stone was rolled away, He wasn't rising, He was already gone. Of course He was, He rose on the weekly Sabbath afternoon at/about sunset.

Either He was in the tomb three days and three nights or He lied and wasn't the Messiah...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Now please count three days and three nights from Friday evening at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
 
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john832 said:
Apparently not. You do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath, don't you? And you do know that it is not the weekly Sabbath, don't you? You do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread fell on Thursday of 31AD, don't you? and you do know that it is a high day, don't you? And you do know that the First Day of Unleavened Bread is the high day of John 19:31, don't you? And you do know that it did not fall on the weekly Sabbath that year, don't you? You do know there were two Sabbaths that week, don't you?

The First Day of Unleavened Bread fell on Thursday that week and of course the weekly Sabbath fell on Saturday.

Now how about if you show me how to count three days and three nights from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
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I'm sorry John but, you are mistaken. The Sabbath never applied to any day of the week but the seventh day. This is why it is called the Sabbath. It NEVER fell in the middle of the week.
 
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oldhermit said:
I'm sorry John but, you are mistaken. The Sabbath never applied to any day of the week but the seventh day. This is why it is called the Sabbath. It NEVER fell in the middle of the week.
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OK, let's see if you know what you are talking about...

Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Here the Day of Atonement, a high day not a weekly Sabbath, is plainly referred to as a Sabbath in verse 32.

So who is mistaken here?

Now please count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
 
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There are several Sabbaths mentioned in the Tanakh or Old Testaqment. They were for the feasts. It is true, there is only one Sabbath of the Lord, but there are other Sabbaths appointed by the Word.
 
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Yep, on the first day of the week when the stone was rolled away, He wasn't rising, He was already gone. Of course He was, He rose on the weekly Sabbath afternoon at/about sunset.

Either He was in the tomb three days and three nights or He lied and wasn't the Messiah...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Now please count three days and three nights from Friday evening at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
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John, you are twisting these scripture to support your western concept of three days.

If you will not believe Luke's account, perhaps you will believe Mark's, 16:9-11, "Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping. When they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they refused to believe it."
 
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oldhermit said:
John, you are twisting these scripture to support your western concept of three days.

If you will not believe Luke's account, perhaps you will believe Mark's, 16:9-11, "Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping. When they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they refused to believe it."
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Yes, after He had risen, He then appeared to Mary Magdalene. He did not appear to her before He had risen. It is not referring to Him rising on the first day of the week and you are not harmonizing all the scriptures on the subject.

I am still waiting to see you count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
 
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JaumeJ said:
There are several Sabbaths mentioned in the Tanakh or Old Testaqment. They were for the feasts. It is true, there is only one Sabbath of the Lord, but there are other Sabbaths appointed by the Word.
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As odd as it seemed: 1st Christians were really Jews.
 
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As odd as it seemed: 1st Christians were really Jews.
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And they assembled in the synagogues on the seventh day and they kept the Feasts of the Eternal. The difference was their faith in Christ.
 
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john832 said:
Yes, after He had risen, He then appeared to Mary Magdalene. He did not appear to her before He had risen. It is not referring to Him rising on the first day of the week and you are not harmonizing all the scriptures on the subject.

I am still waiting to see you count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
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John, sometimes I think you are completely impossible to reason with. The text tells us under no uncertain terms that Jesus rose on the first day of the week. I think what you are having trouble with is the phrase Jesus used in Matt. 12. When Jesus uses the term "Heart of the earth" he is not talking about the tomb. He does not use the term for grave or tomb. He uses the word γῆς which is used very often in scripture to refer to the human collective. This is how it is used in Rev13:3 for example. Jesus is talking about the time of his suffering which began Thursday with his arrest in the garden and ended when he rose on Sunday. In other words, Jesus was three days and three nights in the hands of men. "Heart of the earth" is an idiom.
 
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ELECT said:
What is a high day sabbath ?
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Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: (WEEKLY SABBATH...ALWAYS ON THE SEVENTH DAY) but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall DO NO WORK therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 (HIGH SABBATH) In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall DO NO SERVILE WORK therein.
Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: (HIGH SABBATH ON THE 21 ST DAY OF THE MONTH) in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall DO NO SERVILE WORK therein.
Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: (SUNDAY) on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days (PENTECOST/SHAVUOT); and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:17 Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18 And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD.
Lev 23:19 Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20 And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21 And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day (PENTECOST/SHAVUOT...A SUNDAY), that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall (HIGH SABBATH....ie not on the weekly 7th day) DO NO SERVILE WORK therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall YE HAVE A SABBATH (HIGH SABBATH...IE USUALLY NOT ON THE 7TH DAY SABBATH, BUT CAN FALL ON WEEKLY 7TH DAY SABBATH) a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
Lev 23:25 Ye shall do NO SERVILE WORK (1ST DAY OF 7TH MONTH...JEWS CALL IT ROSH HASHANAH) therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:26 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 AND YE SHALL DO NO WORK THEREIN (10TH DAY OF 7TH MONTH...CALLED DAY OF ATONEMENT) : for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 Ye shall DO NO MANNER OF WORK (10TH DAY OF 7TH MONTH): it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month (THE SABBATH BEGINS AT SUNSET ON THE 9TH)at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:33 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
Lev 23:35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall DO NO SERVILE WORK therein.
Lev 23:36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall DO NO SERVILE WORK (15TH DAY OF THE 7TH MONTH) therein.
Lev 23:37 These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Lev 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath (15TH DAY OF THE 7TH MONTH), and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath. (22ND DAY OF THE 7TH MONTH)
Lev 23:40 And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days.
Lev 23:41 And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
Lev 23:42 Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:
Lev 23:43 That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 23:44 And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.

RECAP: ALL SABBATHS (BOTH WEEKLY AND FEAST DAYS (HIGH SABBATHS) DO NO WORK)

EVERY 7TH DAY IS A WEEKLY SABBATH, AND BEGINS AT SUNSET ON FRIDAY AND ALL WORK STOPS TILL SUNSET SATURDAY.

PASSOVER IS 1ST MONTH ON 14TH AND AT THE END OF THE 14TH DAY AT SUNSET BEGINS THE 15TH DAY OF THE 1ST MONTH (JEWS CALL THE MONTH NISAN AND IT BEGINS FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD). THE 15TH OF THE 1ST MONTH IS A HIGH SABBATH. 7 DAYS LATER (THE 21ST DAY) IS ANOTHER HIGH SABBATH (MEANING NO WORK TO BE DONE)

ALWAYS ON A SUNDAY WILL SHAVUOT/PENTECOST OCCUR. THIS DAY IS A HIGH SABBATH AND NO WORK IS TO BE DONE.

ON THE 1ST DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH IS A HIGH SABBATH.

THE 10TH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH IS A HIGH SABBATH.

THE 15TH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH IS A HIGH SABBATH.

THE 22ND DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH IS A HIGH SABBATH.

TO VISUALLY AID, HERE IS A LINK TO THE HEBREW AND ROMAN CALENDAR SIDE BY SIDE. Hebrew Calendar
 
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john832 said:
OK, let's see if you know what you are talking about...

Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Here the Day of Atonement, a high day not a weekly Sabbath, is plainly referred to as a Sabbath in verse 32.

So who is mistaken here?

Now please count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.
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Your point here is well taken but that does not lend any support to your theory that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday. The collective accounts of all for gospels place Jesus on the cross and in the tomb on Friday and his resurrection on Sunday.
 
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oldhermit said:
Your point here is well taken but that does not lend any support to your theory that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday. The collective accounts of all for gospels place Jesus on the cross and in the tomb on Friday and his resurrection on Sunday.
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Please count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.

The Gospel accounts place Jesus Christ on the cross on the Passover which was Wednesday in 31 AD. the 70 week prophecy places the year as 31 AD.

There is no proof for a Good Friday, Ishtar Sunday tradition.
 
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john832 said:
Please count three days and three nights from Friday at/about sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise.

The Gospel accounts place Jesus Christ on the cross on the Passover which was Wednesday in 31 AD. the 70 week prophecy places the year as 31 AD.

There is no proof for a Good Friday, Ishtar Sunday tradition.
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