Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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This is very true. Mary did have other children. What do they expect? Mary and Joseph were newly weds! As a woman, I am very certain that Mary suspected pregnancy every time they "rustled the sheets", if you will. On top of that, Having many children was and still is important to many families. Also, technically, Jesus wasn't Joseph's biological son so Joseph might have felt the need to have his own little ones.
Also:

Matthew 12:46
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While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Luke 8:19

King James Version (KJV)

19 Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press.

Mark 3:31

King James Version (KJV)

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.




​The Bible doesn't lie.


So true,
The Bible doesn't lie.
Catholics twist the scriptures to get their erroneous doctrines, Thats one reason why they come against sola scriptura.
 
Nov 30, 2012
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And while you Catholics are centering on how Mary played peek-a-boo with Jesus us Christians are centering ourselves on Christ ALONE. Not one person in this thread has said Mary isn't to be respected or that she is not blessed. Mary, was human.She was highly favored by God, and so were many other people in the bible. Like Abraham, and many other prophets. Do we worship and pray to them? Mary was righteous and favored by God, but it is clear in scripture she was HUMAN and came from the seed of Adam(unlike Jesus) and she even admitted she needed a savior. Romans 3:23 says ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That includes Mary.

Luke 11 27 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman with the people there called out to him, “Blessings from God belong to the woman who gave birth to you and fed you!”

Then Jesus said in verse 28...

But Jesus said, “The people who hear the teaching of God and obey it—they are the ones who have God’s blessing.”

Nothing is recorded in the bible about Mary after the Day of Pentecost. We don't know when she died. We don't know anything about her after Acts chapter 1. Yet, the Catholic church has taken it upon themselves to exalt her as more than the earthly mother of Jesus and give her "power" to hear prayers, perform miracles, and be worshiped. The bible NEVER ONCE insrtucts us to worship or pray to anyone BUT God, and we are to pray to God in the name of JESUS. Not Mary, Not Peter, Not Paul. JESUS.

While Mary is to be respected, she is not to be held to the standard that the Catholic church does. Which is idol worship.
No saint has the power to perform miracles and none are worshipped by the Catholic church.
 
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Catholics twist the truth about Mary, She was not a perpetual virgin.

I can give you Biblical and Greek Biblical proof that Mary had other children.

I said the same to another catholic on the website, But he didn't want to be proved wrong.
Did you even read the articles given. Because if you didn't, you are not here to discuss, you're here to just spout antiCatholic propaganda.
 
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Did you even read the articles given. Because if you didn't, you are not here to discuss, you're here to just spout antiCatholic propaganda.




I did read the articles, I know what the catholics teach, and I know they twist the truth.

I am here to show you the truth.
I told you that I can prove Mary had other children, but you don't want to be proved wrong.

Even so, I might do a post on the topic, just so Christians can see how wrong catholics are.
 
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Did the OP say Jesus had no mother?

Oh didn't realize we were in crazy town and just ignoring the bible.
 

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Did the OP say Jesus had no mother?

Oh didn't realize we were in crazy town and just ignoring the bible.
Jesus exist before His mother. His mother created by Jesus. His mother is human, Jesus is God.
 
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And the Blessed Virgin Mary is the vessel of God and source of Christ's humanity.
 
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source of Christ's humanity is Christ itself, He create humanity, mean He is the source of humanity
Oh so to you, Jesus was just messing around and sought to mess us Mary's life? She wasn't important at all?

Yeah....right. The angel Gabriel appears and calls her full of grace, and starts the conversation with Hail. Hail by the way doesn't mean hi, it's a word that denotes royalty, such as Hail Caesar or the Germanic, Heil Hitler.
 
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source of Christ's humanity is Christ itself, He create humanity, mean He is the source of humanity

That's great and all, but the concept of "jesus being born through mary" isn't a hard concept, especially since ALL of christianity believes it.

You can claim jesus didn't have a mother, but since he was a child, came from mary's vagina, and so on, it's really just saying it for the shock value.

The actual value of the phrase is semantics at best.
 
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(...) Yeah....right. The angel Gabriel appears and calls her full of grace, and starts the conversation with Hail. Hail by the way doesn't mean hi, it's a word that denotes royalty, such as Hail Caesar or the Germanic, Heil Hitler.
So basically what you're trying to say is Hitler was royalty?


 

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Oh so to you, Jesus was just messing around and sought to mess us Mary's life? She wasn't important at all?

Yeah....right. The angel Gabriel appears and calls her full of grace, and starts the conversation with Hail. Hail by the way doesn't mean hi, it's a word that denotes royalty, such as Hail Caesar or the Germanic, Heil Hitler.
Chairo in the greek means rejoice, be glad, rejoice greatly. You must have to translate it through the latin to get to where you are.

It was the hope of every Jewish woman that her first born would be a man child even the promised Messiah. In context that is why the angel greeted her in the fashion in which she was greeted.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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And he WAS royality... Hitler wasn't. So you're wrong.
Your playing at semantics to avoid the issue. My point is that any form of hail in the ancient Roman world would have been immediately recognized as giving Mary a royal status.

By the way, Hitler was called Fuhrer, they called him the leader of the Third Reich, in the eyes of Nazis, Hitler was an emperor. I used this to make a point.
 
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Chairo in the greek means rejoice, be glad, rejoice greatly. You must have to translate it through the latin to get to where you are.

It was the hope of every Jewish woman that her first born would be a man child even the promised Messiah. In context that is why the angel greeted her in the fashion in which she was greeted.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Gabriel said rejoice after saying, "Hail, full of grace."