If there's a Religious Right, is there a Sacrilegious Left?

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Remember the term, "Religious Right"? It referred, in a nutshell, to any of us possessing the temerity to mix our faith with politics (Ooooo!). If you've ever been accused of "imposing your own morality on others" - by opposing such Godlessness as abortion (OOOHH!) or sodomitic "marriage," (Naughty, NAUGHTY intolerant hate-mongering Christian!) you're probably a member of the Religious Right. Following it to a logical extension, would there not be a "Sacrilegious Left," consisting of those in favor of the slaughter - an all-too-literal blood sacrifice - of the Innocent Unborn on the bloodstained altars of the Sacrilegious Left in abortuaries across this once-great nation, and those advocating for "marriage" on the basis of people of the same gender sodomizing eachother and engaging in other unnatural and detestable acts of perversion?
Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, it's also highly likely that you've also been called a "fascist," "Nazi," and other labels. Those lobbing such labels, however, are intellectually incapable of providing a proper definition of the labels they're tossin'.
 
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TheAristocat

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Ya. Fascist = nationalist socialist. Not to mention their own efforts to exterminate large populations of people. For the longest time when I was growing up I always equated liberal socialists with fascism more than I did conservatives. I never saw how conservatives could be fascist in the least. So it confused me when I started hearing all this "fascist conservative" talk from college-age kids. Oh, well.
 

Nautilus

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we prefer to call it the "not interested in a theocracy" left.
 

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It's different over here.

Are religious views don't seem to be tied to any political stance... you can be politically left wing and yet theologically conservative and vice versa. or liberal politically and conservative theologically.

I prefer the social side of politics mainly because its the left that tends to be more socially minded ie, interested not just in the top 10% of the population (the rich). oh and left doesn't mean communist.. I would be democratic socialist pretty much the Labour party over here.

Right wing tends not to have the interests of the poor in mind.. personally I like a good balance.. of capitalism and socialism. that's why I am politically democratic socialist and theologically conservative... that may sound strange to my American cousins..
 
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I'm a Christian and I believe God's Word, hence I oppose abortion, same sex marriage, as well as abuse, oppression, greediness, corruption,etc. However, I've decided that I wouldn't like being tightly identified with a political party. I support the pro-life ideals and I support Christian values, but those aren't found in a political party. I also don't believe the US is or ever was a Christian nation, though I agree it had a strong Protestant foundation at the beginning.

I can give my (conditional) vote to those who support the same things, and yes, I would vote to have abortion outlawed, but I won't go out of my way to endorse a political agenda. I believe the gospel is what ultimately brings about change,so political division only distracts and ultimately and unnecessarily push people away from the gospel. This is my personal conviction after seeing Christians and unbelievers bash each other over political issues on Facebook and the media. From unbelievers I can expect that behavior, but not from Christians.
 
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You know yer a liberal when..

you voted for Obama twice

you believe Obamacare will work

you believe the attack on the Lybian embassy was caused by a youtube video

you believe you can be soically liberal and fiscally conservative.

While neither political/social belief system, liberal or conservative are purely christian, there is nothing christian in liberalism, not a lick, stroke of pen or iota is christian. It is an ideology that embraces all the traits of the deceiver, proclaiming one thing and existing on the opposite.

Every aspect of our lives should be under Christ and being a citizen of a representative republic certainly should be as well.

Even though I may have to vote with my nose held, I still vote. Mormon? Heck the other choice we let get elected was a secular marxist. Like...duh.

I would want my politicians to be like my kids teachers. Christian and having their decisions formed by their relationship with God, NOT to push their particular brand of christianity.

I just don't see any democrat/liberal out there that represents my christian views.
 

Nautilus

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man i gues i would vote b my beliefs if i was electing pastor. But im electing a leader for a secular country. A country which has a good percentage of the population not being christians. Hmm so should I look for some bible-thumper that may force his beliefs on others or someone rather middle of the road, who will be more concerned with everyone and not implementing his religions outlooks? Like according to you and your views I would probably be a terrible christian. But at the end of the day thats okay for me.
 
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So God is some sort of Empire fascist that requires 1 nation ruled by Americans???

You seem to equate this world with the Kingdom of God BowTied??

A lot of your right wing politics in America is obscene and stupid to conservatives in other countries?

Why do you assume Christianity lines up exactly with your brand of politics in your country?
 
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None of the points were addressed just spelling errors and some fabricated graph.

Typical liberal.

We do not elect the Pastor of the USA, yes, its called the president...and pray tell, what does the bible say that is good is not and what biblical principle is bad for our government to emulate in how it governs?

No one supports a theocracy, we just want the USA to be influenced by christian principles. Not a religion or sect.

Kinda amazing that our liberal friends look at this as a power equation and not the democratic/republic form of government we have where all sides are represented and heard from.........

they want to exclude christianity from the process!!

Funny how that perfectly fits my definition given earlier of what liberals believe. Intolerance, bigotry and a lack of factual foundation.

You also must show where anyone is suggesting a theocracy. I guess the moral fiber of the bible, which is absolute, just does not fit into your political ideology..

no kidding.

Call me names. Make fun of my spelling. Try to associate me with bigots and all you do is define yourself.

Please continue, you are doing a fine job
 
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Funny how that perfectly fits my definition given earlier of what liberals believe. Intolerance, bigotry and a lack of factual foundation.
Then I'm delighted that I'm not a liberal and neither are my friends.

My wife has a pin. It says..

If we can send a man to the moon, why can't we send them all?
 

Nautilus

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its not that i want to remove christianity from politics. Id rather remove all religion from politics.
 

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And this is a perfect example of stereotyping.
I am Republican and...
I don't think he is a socialist, but some of his actions are questionable...just like EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN.

I don't know if he is a muslim or not but considering we have freedom of religion he has the right to worship the flying spaghetti monster if he chooses. Romney is mormon. That isn't Christian. Why are we not ragging on him?

I don't harp on his birth certificate.

There are some similarities of Hitler, but Obama has yet to send people to concentration camps.

I'm not an "end of times" believer.


Yet if you are republican you are accused of these beliefs because it is easier for liberals to argue these then actual issues and policies that people oppose.

And lets not forget, if you didn't vote for Obama you are a racist.
 
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Romney is mormon. That isn't Christian. Why are we not ragging on him?
I didn't know that you actually want me to represent your opinion.

There are some similarities of Hitler, but Obama has yet to send people to concentration camps.
If you say so. What exactly are the similarities between Hitler and President Obama?
 

Elizabeth619

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I didn't know that you actually want me to represent your opinion.



If you say so. What exactly are the similarities between Hitler and President Obama?
I don't want you representing anything considering your recent trolling behavior. You've pretty well lost all credibility with me.
 
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Elizabeth619

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Then I don't understand why you would direct this question to "we"....




So, what exactly are the similarities between Hitler and President Obama?
You can research it yourself. Since you know so much about everything you can troll the internet. All you're doing here is trying to provoke an argument. I would rather not debate with someone whose actions show theyre possibly not too stable.
 
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I don't see a lot of simularities between Hitler and Obama. At least Hitler made the trains run on time.

There seems to be a lot of mysteries surrounding this president. His grades, the birth certificate, when he signed up for Obamacare the difficulty in getting personal information about him. Seems the transparent president isn't too transparent.

I sincerely doubt Obama is a muslim. I doubt his ego could bow to any god. He sat under a racist ''pastor'' who's religious indoctrinations started with Farakan.

Obama is not the anti-christ. His popularity is virtually non-existent and he is a fool to the rest of the world.

Obama without doubt is a secular marxist. His ideals are.

Look at his self proclaimed mentors. Not a nice buncha capitalists.