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I don't understand the fascination with reading, writing, and speaking 16th Century English.
NO other people in the world today read their Bible in an ancient language - NOT the Spanish, Germans, Italians, Russians, Chinese, or whomever.
ONLY English people have this idiotic notion that reading 16th Century English makes them "holier" than people who don't.
Our Father who IS in Heaven. HOLY be your name. YOUR Kingdom come. YOUR will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven.
Let "thee", "thy", "thou", etc., die already.
NO other people in the world today read their Bible in an ancient language - NOT the Spanish, Germans, Italians, Russians, Chinese, or whomever.
ONLY English people have this idiotic notion that reading 16th Century English makes them "holier" than people who don't.
Our Father who IS in Heaven. HOLY be your name. YOUR Kingdom come. YOUR will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven.
Let "thee", "thy", "thou", etc., die already.
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What people don't understand, and, sorry chosenforHim (and, the Lord leads, but don't argue with me anymore, I just end up shredding you 
) , but , yeah, DIFFERENT VERSIONS of the bible speak DIFFERENTLY to different people.
I don't care how RIGHT more KJV is than another version IF I don't understand the confusin' 16th century Olde English. It's just Greek to me, then !!!!!!!
What's worse? Reading a version that is CORRECTER than another version IF you don't understand what you READ, get discouraged, and, end up NOT reading any bible ?????!?!!!?!?!!!??!!?
READ a version of the bible that YOU understand, that makes sense, that comes ALIVE from Christ to YOU
) , but , yeah, DIFFERENT VERSIONS of the bible speak DIFFERENTLY to different people.I don't care how RIGHT more KJV is than another version IF I don't understand the confusin' 16th century Olde English. It's just Greek to me, then !!!!!!!
What's worse? Reading a version that is CORRECTER than another version IF you don't understand what you READ, get discouraged, and, end up NOT reading any bible ?????!?!!!?!?!!!??!!?
READ a version of the bible that YOU understand, that makes sense, that comes ALIVE from Christ to YOU
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Thee, thy, thou, etc., had been out of common usage for several hundred years by 1611 (the 17th century).
The translators desired the most accurate translation possible, so the specific singular and plural pronouns for "you" had to be used. E.g., starts with a "th", it's singular, starts with a "y", it's plural. "Thou only", as opposed to, "all of ye".
They are not used in the AV dedicatory, which I have pasted below. The KJV is the most accurate, most correct, and most honest translation of the Holy Scriptures that we have in English.
But among all our joys, there was no one that more filled our hearts than the blessed continuance of the preaching of God's sacred Word among us, which is that inestimable treasure which excelleth all the riches of earth; because the fruit thereof extendeth itself, not only to the time spent in this transitory world, but directeth and disposeth men unto that eternal happiness which is above in heaven.
Then not to suffer this to fall to the ground, but rather to take it up, and to continue it in that state, wherein the famous Predecessor of Your Highness did leave it; nay, to go forward with the confidence and resolution of a Man in maintaining the truth of Christ, and propagating it far and near, is that which hath so bound and firmly knit the hearts of all Your Majesty's loyal and religious people unto You, that Your very name is precious among them: their eye doth behold You with comfort, and they bless You in their hearts, as that sanctified Person, who, under God, is the immediate Author of their true happiness. And this their contentment doth not diminish or decay, but every day increaseth and taketh strength, when they observe, that the zeal of Your Majesty toward the house of God doth not slack or go backward, but is more and more kindled, manifesting itself abroad in the farthest parts of Christendom, by writing in defence of the Truth, (which hath given such a blow unto that man of sin, as will not be healed,) and every day at home, by religious and learned discourse, by frequenting the house of God, by hearing the Word preached, by cherishing the Teachers thereof, by caring for the Church, as a most tender and loving nursing Father.
There are infinite arguments of this right Christian and religious affection in Your Majesty; but none is more forcible to declare it to others than the vehement and perpetuated desire of accomplishing and publishing of this work, which now, with all humility, we present unto Your Majesty. For when Your Highness had once out of deep judgment apprehended how convenient it was, that, out of the Original Sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own and other foreign languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the Work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require.
And now at last, by the mercy of God, and the continuance of our labours, it being brought unto such a conclusion, as that we have great hopes that the Church of England shall reap good fruit thereby; we hold it our duty to offer it to Your Majesty, not only as to our King and Sovereign, but as to the principal Mover and Author of the work: humbly craving of Your most Sacred Majesty, that since things of this quality have ever been subject to the censures of illmeaning and discontented persons, it may receive approbation and patronage from so learned and judicious a Prince as Your Highness is, whose allowance and acceptance of our labours shall more honour and encourage us, that all the calumniations and hard interpretations of other men shall dismay us. So that if, on the one side, we shall be traduced by Popish Persons at home or abroad, who therefore will malign us, because we are poor instruments to make GOD's holy Truth to be yet more and more known unto the people, whom they desire still to keep in ignorance and darkness; or if, on the other side, we shall be maligned by self-conceited Brethren, who run their own ways, and give liking unto nothing, but what is framed by themselves, and hammered on their anvil; we may rest secure, supported within by the truth and innocency of a good conscience, having walked the ways of simplicity and integrity, as before the Lord; and sustained without by the powerful protection of Your Majesty's grace and favour, which will ever give countenance to honest and christian endeavours against bitter censures and uncharitable imputations.
The Lord of heaven and earth bless Your Majesty with many and happy days; that, as his heavenly hand hath enriched Your Highness with many singular and extraordinary graces, so You may be the wonder of the world in this latter age for happiness and true felicity, to the honour of that great God, and the good of his Church, through Jesus Christ our Lord and only Saviour.
The translators desired the most accurate translation possible, so the specific singular and plural pronouns for "you" had to be used. E.g., starts with a "th", it's singular, starts with a "y", it's plural. "Thou only", as opposed to, "all of ye".
They are not used in the AV dedicatory, which I have pasted below. The KJV is the most accurate, most correct, and most honest translation of the Holy Scriptures that we have in English.
TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY PRINCE
JAMES
BY THE GRACE OF GOD
KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND IRELAND,
DEFENDER OF THE FAITH, &c.
The Translators of the Bible wish
Grace, Mercy, and Peace
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
GREAT and manifold were the blessings, most dread Sovereign, which Almighty God, the Father of all mercies, bestowed upon us the people of England, when first he sent Your Majesty's Royal Person to rule and reign over us. For whereas it was the expectation of many, who wished not well unto our Sion, that upon the setting of that bright Occidental Star, Queen Elizabeth of most happy memory, some thick and palpable clouds of darkness would so have overshadowed this Land, that men should have been in doubt which way they were to walk; and that it should hardly be known, who was to direct the unsettled State; the appearance of Your Majesty, as of the Sun in his strength, instantly dispelled those supposed and surmised mists, and gave unto all that were well affected exceeding cause of comfort; especially when we beheld the Government established in Your Highness, and Your hopeful Seed, by an undoubted Title, and this also accompanied with peace and tranquillity at home and abroad.JAMES
BY THE GRACE OF GOD
KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND IRELAND,
DEFENDER OF THE FAITH, &c.
The Translators of the Bible wish
Grace, Mercy, and Peace
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
But among all our joys, there was no one that more filled our hearts than the blessed continuance of the preaching of God's sacred Word among us, which is that inestimable treasure which excelleth all the riches of earth; because the fruit thereof extendeth itself, not only to the time spent in this transitory world, but directeth and disposeth men unto that eternal happiness which is above in heaven.
Then not to suffer this to fall to the ground, but rather to take it up, and to continue it in that state, wherein the famous Predecessor of Your Highness did leave it; nay, to go forward with the confidence and resolution of a Man in maintaining the truth of Christ, and propagating it far and near, is that which hath so bound and firmly knit the hearts of all Your Majesty's loyal and religious people unto You, that Your very name is precious among them: their eye doth behold You with comfort, and they bless You in their hearts, as that sanctified Person, who, under God, is the immediate Author of their true happiness. And this their contentment doth not diminish or decay, but every day increaseth and taketh strength, when they observe, that the zeal of Your Majesty toward the house of God doth not slack or go backward, but is more and more kindled, manifesting itself abroad in the farthest parts of Christendom, by writing in defence of the Truth, (which hath given such a blow unto that man of sin, as will not be healed,) and every day at home, by religious and learned discourse, by frequenting the house of God, by hearing the Word preached, by cherishing the Teachers thereof, by caring for the Church, as a most tender and loving nursing Father.
There are infinite arguments of this right Christian and religious affection in Your Majesty; but none is more forcible to declare it to others than the vehement and perpetuated desire of accomplishing and publishing of this work, which now, with all humility, we present unto Your Majesty. For when Your Highness had once out of deep judgment apprehended how convenient it was, that, out of the Original Sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own and other foreign languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the Work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require.
And now at last, by the mercy of God, and the continuance of our labours, it being brought unto such a conclusion, as that we have great hopes that the Church of England shall reap good fruit thereby; we hold it our duty to offer it to Your Majesty, not only as to our King and Sovereign, but as to the principal Mover and Author of the work: humbly craving of Your most Sacred Majesty, that since things of this quality have ever been subject to the censures of illmeaning and discontented persons, it may receive approbation and patronage from so learned and judicious a Prince as Your Highness is, whose allowance and acceptance of our labours shall more honour and encourage us, that all the calumniations and hard interpretations of other men shall dismay us. So that if, on the one side, we shall be traduced by Popish Persons at home or abroad, who therefore will malign us, because we are poor instruments to make GOD's holy Truth to be yet more and more known unto the people, whom they desire still to keep in ignorance and darkness; or if, on the other side, we shall be maligned by self-conceited Brethren, who run their own ways, and give liking unto nothing, but what is framed by themselves, and hammered on their anvil; we may rest secure, supported within by the truth and innocency of a good conscience, having walked the ways of simplicity and integrity, as before the Lord; and sustained without by the powerful protection of Your Majesty's grace and favour, which will ever give countenance to honest and christian endeavours against bitter censures and uncharitable imputations.
The Lord of heaven and earth bless Your Majesty with many and happy days; that, as his heavenly hand hath enriched Your Highness with many singular and extraordinary graces, so You may be the wonder of the world in this latter age for happiness and true felicity, to the honour of that great God, and the good of his Church, through Jesus Christ our Lord and only Saviour.
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That's a normal reaction to the cult of KJV-only.
The Greek Orthodox would disagree.
Of course, that's the nature of cults.
Well, there's something to be said for singular/plural identification.
Gen 3:1 ... he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (KJV PCE)
So the serpent was speaking to Eve, but the "Ye" tells us that the commandment from God was addressed to both of them, not Eve alone. The NKJV, for example, loses this information:
Gen 3:1 ... he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (NKJV)
I think generally "ye" should be replaced by "all of you" (or "both of you" in Gen 3), not just "you". In any case, KJV-onlyism is a poor solution for that issue.
The Greek Orthodox would disagree.
Of course, that's the nature of cults.
Well, there's something to be said for singular/plural identification.
Gen 3:1 ... he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (KJV PCE)
So the serpent was speaking to Eve, but the "Ye" tells us that the commandment from God was addressed to both of them, not Eve alone. The NKJV, for example, loses this information:
Gen 3:1 ... he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (NKJV)
I think generally "ye" should be replaced by "all of you" (or "both of you" in Gen 3), not just "you". In any case, KJV-onlyism is a poor solution for that issue.
The Apostle Paul warned us more than one about teachers like Peter Ruckman.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (KJV PCE)
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (KJV PCE)
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all. (KJV PCE)
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (KJV PCE)
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (KJV PCE)
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all. (KJV PCE)