Boston Marathon Drill: but bombs hit first

zone · Oct 18, 2013

[video=youtube;vNM3GQWx83Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNM3GQWx83Q[/video]

Inside 9/11 - Who diverted the fighter jets?

Published on Nov 9, 2012
Though all this is history now, with more than 10 years having passed by, some crucial questions remain unresolved. You might have heard that the air defense on 9/11 failed completely. The official explanation is, that nobody imagined something like this and that the military therefore had to improvise. However the facts don´t back this claim. On the contrary the flight routes of the fighter jets show a pattern of deliberate diversion. We have to ask: who diverted the jets?

To find out more about this and to check the sources of this video, also read this article, published in October 2012 in the "Journal of 9/11 Studies":

"Anomalies of the air defense on 9/11"

zone · Oct 18, 2013

Re: An interesting physics project...

PoxEclipse said:

well there you have it.
how anyone can look at that and say an airliner - the fuel of which would have exploded and burned up outside the building - did that is frankly living in a dream world.

i guess it feels safer there.

zone · Oct 18, 2013

The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero

Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since the collapse of steel-framed skyscrapers due to fires is completely unprecedented, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!

Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage. 1
The bulk of the steel was apparently shipped to China and India. The Chinese firm Baosteel purchased 50,000 tons at a rate of $120 per ton, compared to an average price of $160 paid by local mills in the previous year. 2

Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:

If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything. 3

9-11 Research: WTC Steel Removal
...

that's right Mr. Bloomberg - crime scene evidence don't mean nuthin'.
that's what computers are for.

letti · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

[video=youtube;vNM3GQWx83Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNM3GQWx83Q[/video]

Inside 9/11 - Who diverted the fighter jets?

Published on Nov 9, 2012
Though all this is history now, with more than 10 years having passed by, some crucial questions remain unresolved. You might have heard that the air defense on 9/11 failed completely. The official explanation is, that nobody imagined something like this and that the military therefore had to improvise. However the facts don´t back this claim. On the contrary the flight routes of the fighter jets show a pattern of deliberate diversion. We have to ask: who diverted the jets?

To find out more about this and to check the sources of this video, also read this article, published in October 2012 in the "Journal of 9/11 Studies":

"Anomalies of the air defense on 9/11"

Yep,something big failed that idiotic 9/11 Comission LOL,and that anybody can believe any of this wasn't a planned inside job.

zone · Oct 18, 2013

oh ya "Da Commission"

[video=youtube;sQtvhpOLUmM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQtvhpOLUmM&feature=player_embedded[/video]

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Episode 284 – Learn History with Philip Zelikow!

Posted by Corbett

Podcast: Play in new window | Download

As Philip Zelikow prepares to teach an online history course, we peel back the layers of propaganda from the former Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission. From cover up to predictive programming, we examine the ways that Zelikow helped to shape (and write) the history he’s now teaching.

Documentation
The Modern World: Global History since 1760 with Philip Zelikow
Time Reference: 00:15
Philip Zelikow official biography
Time Reference: 03:13
The Modern World: Global History since 1760
Time Reference: 04:34
David Ray Griffin debunks the 9/11 Commission
Time Reference: 07:24
Zelikow Completes Outline of Final Report before Staff Start Writing It
Time Reference: 12:23
The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Commision by Philip Shenon
Time Reference: 14:51
Problem Reaction Solution (Music Video)
Time Reference: 18:37
Episode 047 – Problem Reaction Solution
Time Reference: 19:37
Philip Zelikow: September 11 Secret Mastermind!
Time Reference: 20:38
Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger
Time Reference: 23:01
9/11 Was An Inside Job Music Video
Time Reference: 09:44

The Corbett Report | Episode 284 – Learn History with Philip Zelikow!

letti · Oct 18, 2013

What a joke 9 11 comission,stupid

all for show.

letti · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

oh ya "Da Commission"

[video=youtube;sQtvhpOLUmM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQtvhpOLUmM&feature=player_embedded[/video]

12
OCT
2013

Episode 284 – Learn History with Philip Zelikow!

Posted by Corbett

Podcast: Play in new window | Download

As Philip Zelikow prepares to teach an online history course, we peel back the layers of propaganda from the former Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission. From cover up to predictive programming, we examine the ways that Zelikow helped to shape (and write) the history he’s now teaching.

Documentation
The Modern World: Global History since 1760 with Philip Zelikow
Time Reference: 00:15
Philip Zelikow official biography
Time Reference: 03:13
The Modern World: Global History since 1760
Time Reference: 04:34
David Ray Griffin debunks the 9/11 Commission
Time Reference: 07:24
Zelikow Completes Outline of Final Report before Staff Start Writing It
Time Reference: 12:23
The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Commision by Philip Shenon
Time Reference: 14:51
Problem Reaction Solution (Music Video)
Time Reference: 18:37
Episode 047 – Problem Reaction Solution
Time Reference: 19:37
Philip Zelikow: September 11 Secret Mastermind!
Time Reference: 20:38
Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger
Time Reference: 23:01
9/11 Was An Inside Job Music Video
Time Reference: 09:44

The Corbett Report | Episode 284 – Learn History with Philip Zelikow!

WOW,they made it so convincing for the naive,just like they were supposed to

zone · Oct 18, 2013

letti said:

well, people can hardly be blamed for their reactions to such a demonic trauma-induced state of vulnerability....at the time.

but that's a long time ago. i see no excuse for not knowing now.

letti · Oct 18, 2013

HMM,i't never ceases to amaze me

None, of this is believable except that its all lies!

letti · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

Yeah,now it's, or should be evident,I think,cause none of it ever added up.And the more you learn,um,just makes it even clearer

letti · Oct 18, 2013

Larry silversteins root of evil Larry Silverstein Makes 7 Billion from WTC 9-11 insurance policy - YouTube

RachelBibleStudent · Oct 18, 2013

Married_Richenbrachen said:

if you want to challenge the polling data...then post your own scientific polling data to support your contention...

you and a few others have complained in the past that lots of people make assertions against conspiracy theorists without proving them...well now is the time to practice what you preach...

-prove- that your '35 - 45%' is something other than your own unsupported guess...

and zone didn't 'realize' 9/11 was a 'scam' because she was 'bright'...as the attacks were happening zone had -absolutely no evidence- that there was any 'scam'...she just decided it was a 'false flag' operation -without any evidence whatsoever- within minutes...

so really none of her copied and pasted spam that -she usually doesn't even bother to read herself- has anything to do with this...she didn't come to her conclusion based on evidence in the first place...she made up her mind almost immediately in a reflexive reaction that has more to do with her depraved mind than it has to do with anything involving reality...all of her subsequent sloppy 'research' is just her attempt at fooling other people into validating her original irrationality...

and i don't call her a liar because i disagree with her...there are plenty of people that i disagree with who i have no reason to suspect of lying...

i call her a liar because she -is a liar-...she says things that she -knows- are not true...in this particular case this is about the third time her assertion about what 'everyone' believes has been refuted right in front of her...how many times does someone have to be shown that grass is green before you can call them a liar for saying grass is purple?

or maybe it is just that her intelligence is faulty...

RachelBibleStudent · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

thermite is made of pulverized iron oxide mixed with pulverized aluminum...

guess what skyscrapers contain a lot of?
steel...which rusts to form iron oxide...and aluminum...

so what would you expect from a building falling down? lots of tiny bits of iron oxide and aluminum mixed together...which some ignorant person might assume is thermite...

this is 'research'?
please...this is comedy...

Married_Richenbrachen · Oct 18, 2013

RachelBibleStudent said:

Underway.

RachelBibleStudent said:

Buildings don't collapse into their own footprint unless properly demolished. Especially not 3 times in a row. This by itself is sufficient evidence of scam. When I first saw the collapse videos, my immediate thought was demolitions. However, the accompanying "story" presented by the media convinced me (by diversion) that the collapses were due to the plane strikes. I never reconsidered demolition until years later, when challenged.

RachelBibleStudent said:

Ad hominem.

RachelBibleStudent said:

It's a figure of speech. They're used in the bible, too.

RachelBibleStudent said:

Don't be jealous. Sometimes you seem clever too, just usually not when it comes to understanding schemes of the devil.

RachelBibleStudent said:

Lol. So what caused the pulverisation of the steel and aluminium? How did so much of this freshly pulverised steel rust so quickly? Your explanation creates more questions than it answers.

letti · Oct 19, 2013

Here is some more info, especially for skeptical people,How they rigged the WTC towers for demolition (Skeptics see this) - YouTube

zone · Oct 19, 2013

though embarrassing for them (since it's so in-your-face), it's better when the Cass Sunstein shills rant on the way they do.
it makes a clearer distinction between them and the 'undecideds' or merely still-fooled.
it's hard for them to keep up....to many lies to cover up.
which is why the cover-up always brings them down.
they really have no resources but: personal attacks and cheap branding (conspiracy theorist; antisemite, etc)

this approach itself is a caricature and actually helps identify the shill.
it find it quite fascinating.

anyone who has even glanced at the history and features of machiavellian totalitarianism knows who is who and how they do it. you just have to read their own writings to know!

...

Conspiracy Theories

Cass R. Sunstein
Harvard Law School

Adrian Vermeule
Harvard Law School

January 15, 2008
Conspiracy Theories by Cass R. Sunstein, Adrian Vermeule :: SSRN < click

^ now this is an amazing disclosure ^
who develops theories like this - then calls for secret govt sponsored 'cognitive infiltration' of a supposedly free people?

just consider Sunstein here for a minute: he develops a crackpot theory...then proposes certain people conspire to do something.

uh - hullo?

only people with something to hide go to all this trouble.
to keep people from freely associating and sharing ideas.

my suggestion for Mr. Sunstein and his groupies (even on this site) would be: put away your stupid plans to stop us from questioning the official narrative and get to work proving your official narrative. that should dispense with any doubt at all. prove what you say happened.

show me the magic bullet.
show me how the magic bullet did what you say it did.

...

so much energy and time devoted to laughable attempts to paint over what really happened - just no end to it...but they never quite get around to addressing what really did happen - according to the official story.

cu-u-u-u-u-u-z.....they can't. if they do open up that can of worms again....the truth becomes even more evident. so there's nothing left but to try to demonize the folks who aren't conforming.

i say let them rail on.
the more they do, the more evident it becomes who they are. cowards, really.

zone · Oct 19, 2013

as for not knowing at the time who was lying - who in their right mind believed this?

oh my....just hilarious.

Rumsfeld: "....and there's not just one of these - there are many"

haha...mkay

Married_Richenbrachen · Oct 19, 2013

zone said:

On this site? Like, as in bought and paid for disinfo shills? Interesting.

Those who are most opposed to truth on this site seem to be either terribly naive (e.g. one on this thread), or well indoctrinated (John Hagee threads).

zone · Oct 19, 2013

Married_Richenbrachen said:

lol...it becomes pretty obvious. it doesn't matter in the end who is an active 'infiltrator' and who is thoroughly indoctrinated. they do the same work. but TPTB in every age have known this.

read the Sunstein proposal - it's exactly sites like this he's talking about. anywhere the subject is being debated.

....

take the "Public Opinion Poll", especially its prominence today in the media as some sort of "measuring device".
lolol...ya know?

the P.O.P. is used to load the bandwagon.
all you have to do is watch as controversial things are going down - take torture ("enhanced interrogations").

what was previously unthinkable...suddenly becomes a topic for "public debate" - should we or shouldn't we?

"IN WHAT CASES WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO...."

49% of respondents said......etc.

the P.O.P. serves two neat purposes. it deceives the "public" into believing a given subject is actually the buzz; when in reality it's NOT - until the subject and the P.O.P.s are presented over and over and over.....then the subject is the buzz, the meme.

practically overnight you have people actually openly, without shame and apparently without even thinking that matter through, parroting the identical child-like rational for torture.

YES! we say DO IT!

while polling (which is trolling) they may discover resitence. so they tweak the QUESTIONS and the form of the questions....and re-poll...until....they reach:

CONSENSUS < enough to move a so-called "democratic" population to accept the majority "opinion" - even if it's totally fabricated to begin with.

it's so obvious it's actually sickening.

....

the dialectical process is so fundamental to loading the bandwagon, that whenever i see a P.O.P. going viral on some issue - i know there's legislation or manouvering of some sort in the works....that P.O.P. tells me what the TPTB want and need.

they need at least the suggestion of majority consensus.

amazing.

letti · Oct 19, 2013

I was not intending to take anything to far,I am sorry.I have some common knowledge but not enough,that's the truth.

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