Boston Marathon Drill: but bombs hit first

zone · Oct 18, 2013

lol.....Israel and the american neocons did 911.
everybody knows this by now.

[video=youtube;SkFrpqjdWK8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkFrpqjdWK8[/video]

Uploaded on Nov 5, 2009
Guns and Butter - "Osama bin Laden Dead or Alive?" with Dr. David Ray Griffin

"Osama bin Laden Dead or Alive?" with Dr. David Ray Griffin on his new book by the same name. We examine all the evidence, both that indicating bin Laden died, and that suggesting he is still alive; the important bin Laden videos and audio recordings, the significance, if any, in the timing of their release; statements by significant political and intelligence figures; and why the hunt for bin Laden must proceed.

leonardronaldo said:

thats weird...because i watched it "as it happened"....FROM ABOUT 9 MINUTES IN. LIVE as they say.
and i knew it was staged...an inside job.
a snuff film to traumatize the people and rally for the STUPID FAKE war on terror.
find out what MAP is taking shape in the region -

i have no idea about the Iranian govt or what they said.
i dont need them to tell me what i already know.

zone · Oct 18, 2013

[video=youtube;UmuYgP7-RfU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmuYgP7-RfU[/video]

Published on Nov 2, 2012
A lecture by David Ray Griffin about the "9/11 Commission Report" and his latest book " The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions".

RachelBibleStudent · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

so 22% is 'everybody' now...

Opinion polls about 9/11 conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

when someone lies this brazenly you have to wonder if they have any conscience or morality at all...

RachelBibleStudent · Oct 18, 2013

zone said:

so according to zone she decided -as it was happening- that it was 'staged'...her opinions are not based on any rational evaluation of evidence...she just made up her mind -within minutes- what she was going to believe...

Married_Richenbrachen · Oct 18, 2013

RachelBibleStudent said:

C'mon Rach, don't be nasty. I think pretty much everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job too. It's a figure of speech, not a lie. And I find those stats you have highly questionable. I would have put the figure at close to 35 - 45%. The reason I would still say "everyone", is that I'm discounting those who don't care enough to think about it, and those who subconsciously know, but refuse to acknowledge for emotional reasons.

Even if those stats you posted were accurate, I find them questionable. For example, of those who believe "other", perhaps they believe a combination of the US and Israel? Perhaps those who don't know are those who really don't know if it was the US, or Israel? Perhaps even some of those who believe it was Al Qaeda believe that Al Qaeda was still in the employ of the US government?

RachelBibleStudent said:

Not everyone is the same. Zone was probably one of the brighter few who realised the scam as it was happening (it's like watching a movie where some of the props are obviously fake). I'm in a much dimmer group who realised eventually, albeit about 9 or so years after the event, when someone told me. You're in the group that still hasn't realised yet. We're all different - and it makes life interesting, but no need to go around calling people liars just because you don't agree with them.

PoxEclipse · Oct 18, 2013

Concerning Islam and 9/11...

Should any wish to research this 'factoid'...

The reason Osama bin Laden was framed with the 9/11 bombing was because Osama was gaining popularity while orchestrating a coup/deposing of the King of Saudi Arabia due to American/Zionist influence and corruption of the Islam state of S.A.

Was 9/11 a two prong endeavour?

1. To pass the Patriot Act which wasn't passed during the first trade tower bombing (which the F.B.I. was criminally involved in) and the Oklahoma bombing in which McVeigh was also framed.

2. An insurance scam to avoid a very costly asbestos cleanup.

The result...

The mass murder of 8+ million people who reside in N.Y.C. within 20-30 years time when the trade tower dust which covered the entire city causes serious long term asbestos related health complications...and death.
(The 3,000+ death toll doesn't come close).

Who benefited...

Consider the Bin Laden Group, Carlyle Group, U.S. Defense, Halliburton, and of course the various banks which issued debt/slavery to fund the war expenses and security protocols enacted in the U.S.A. (security checkpoints, NSA server farms, street cameras, etc.).

A side benefit...

Future pharmaceutical and medical profiteering resulting from asbestos related disease, and war related expenditures. Construction contracts/profiteering in N.Y.C.

From a financial standpoint, the 20-30 year investment/scam was a very successful business venture. At the rate the people of the world are waking up to their schemes (10-50 years per scam), 'we the people' might just manage to clean up the corruption and develop a truly 'civilized' society in say...about 10,000 years...although it really wont matter because most will be dead in the next 20 years (or sooner) from carcinogenic toxic waste and WW3.

Abdullah of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudi Binladin Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Married_Richenbrachen · Oct 18, 2013

Re: Concerning Islam and 9/11...

PoxEclipse said:

I think once people see one scam, they're quicker to pick up on the next one. For example, it took me 9 years for 9/11. But then the London train bombings, Batman, Sandy Hook, Boston... Much quicker. To be honest, there's been so many false flag attacks, even if there were a legitimate, lone-nut terrorist attack now, I wouldn't believe it wasn't a false flag.

I also wonder if this was the reason for the World Wars - too many people were getting too wise to the corrupt system, so needed to be thinned out before they could mount a successful opposition. It seems like they want a big war at the moment, but it's trickier to get a half-convincing story-line because so many are calling out all the plot holes.

zone · Oct 18, 2013

9/11: Let’s Get Empirical

http://www.brianrwright.com/Griffin.pdf

....

aside from needing ANY empirical evidence (in spite of the embarrassing overabundance of it)....2 things make it obvious to anyone but...well...people in denial (i am being kind).

1) every single US; NATO;NORAD and ALLIED intelligence and SECURITY agency (ALL 18 or so of them in the US alone) and apparatus FAILED COMPLETELY; utterly and in spite of prior warnings.

for the first time in world history apparently.

the most secured locations on earth; in the heart of the world's most heavily armed and high-tech super-power finds EVERY SINGLE NATIONAL SECURITY agency failing to know of or respond to the events of 911. oh sure. uh-huh.

2) in spite of this epic humiliating defeat of the world's superpower due to FAILED intelligence and DoD agencies to even respond, let alone know what washappening or what they should be doing.....NOT ONE SINGLE CALL TO INVESTIAGTE WHAY THESE AGENCIES WERE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.

NO call to investigate WHO WAS IN CHARGE AND WHY DID EVERY SINGLE AGENCY WITHOUT EXCEPTION FAIL FAIL FAIL to know; or respond?

no, instead a bunch of pre-progammed media talking heads IMMEDIATELY begin to spew the mantra Al Quaeda and Osama Bin Laden.....uh huh. ya.

...

it's the most transparent and plainly obvious false flag in the history of the world.

...

but trauma based brainwashing works.
they know that. shock & awe, and repeat the official narrative until the people are repeating it verbatim.

...

whip out the superhandy pre-prepared Patriot Act..introduce Michael Chertoff (Israeli military's DHS)..initiate torture and get citizen approval ad infinitum.

...

now, Obama carries on - ramped up...not just indefinite detention without charges or trial....Exec authority to make a KILL LIST...

OR

we choose to maintain that cave-dwellers with no support or power behind them pulled this off:

which didn't happen with a plane anyway, as presumably ANYONE with reasonably intact cognitive abilities can see with their own eyes.

hmm.....perfect little hole in building, at ground level.
no photo or video evidence of a plane.
absolutely nothing resembling a plane at the site or caused the damage.

AND - the 2 people who DID call for an investigation of SECUIRTY FAILURE - got anthrax letters in the mail.

which were scribbled with Allah Akbar death to jews or some RUBBISH.

turns out they pinned it on some mid-level guy at the MILITARY BIOWEAPONS LAB....oh...no explanation for why that guy would write Allah Akbar death to the jews.

ppppffffttttttt - LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

but - ALLAH AKBAR!
Jihad Jihad Jeeehaaaadddd

REE

DICK

YOU

LUS

zone · Oct 18, 2013

Re: Concerning Islam and 9/11...

Married_Richenbrachen said:

[video=youtube;0pusiSKgqFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pusiSKgqFg[/video]

and then we have this guy - drugged.
just look at him.

that story is bogus too - witnesses said TWO men.
TWO. canisters tossed from BOTH sides of the theater.
Holmes gets a cell phone call and goes to the exit and props open the door.

you know the rest....weapons and everything convieniently where they are supposed to be - oh but wait! first in the trunk...then on the ground.
and there's the drugged patsy sitting in his car waiting for the cops.

notice we've heard NOTHING more on this guy?

just all quiet....the deed was done, and they want people to forget about him; who his father was...who his psychiatrist was; what program he was in at which KNOWN CIA facility.

pffft.

PoxEclipse · Oct 18, 2013

Treasure Island...

No 'classic' is complete without a voyage across the seven seas in search of a bit of cursed Aztec gold...

9-11 Research: Missing Gold

Don't forget to visit your local Walmart or Best Buy and own it today!

The Hollywood 'department' needs their bread and butter too!

zone · Oct 18, 2013

Re: Concerning Islam and 9/11...

as for knowing the day it was going down it was an inside job:

NO JETS SCRAMBLED TO PROTECT ANYBODY.

EMPTY SKIES - all day long.

no protection for the most secure locations (supposedly) on earth.

in SPITE of the fact they were conducting a DRILL that very day - wow....super-duper power.

and Rummie holding a meeting in his office - on the far side of the Pentagon REFUSING TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING HAPPENING.

he said he was IN A MEETING - leave him a alone!

then later our hero (who apparently is not whisked away by the SS - like GW who remains seated reading a kindygarten book) Rummie makes a photo op on the pentagon lawn - helping the first responders.

uh-huh.
i believe it.

letti · Oct 18, 2013

9/11 Inside Job - The Most Damning Evidence Yet! - YouTube More evidence,the thermite used to melt the steel columns.

PoxEclipse · Oct 18, 2013

Thermite BBQ!

[video=youtube;UPoJFL-l9jw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPoJFL-l9jw[/video]

zone · Oct 18, 2013

Re: Treasure Island...

PoxEclipse said:

oh right. the GOLD.
what's a few more TRILLION going missing on that day.
and there's NOTHING odd about insider trading on the DEATHS of the people on those AIRLINES.

bah.....people and building disintegrated - nuthin' but powder.

2 buildings HIT - 3 disintegrate....OH - except that perfectly intact Allah Akbar passport...and bandana.

and all those Israeli "artists" and "movers" (URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS) arrested....and released.
n.m. we have the NY responders RADIO tapes - saying they had Israelis - dressed like ARABS in trucks with explosives.

they got away with it.

again.

[video=youtube;16mjRlS9fRs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16mjRlS9fRs[/video]

our purpose was to document the event
our purpose was to document the event
our purpose was to document the event
our purpose was to document the event

zone · Oct 18, 2013

Free-fall acceleration through 40,000 tons of structural steel?

THE BUILDING NOT HIT BY ANYTHING?

NIST Forced to Acknowledge Free-Fall of WTC 7
In August 2008, NIST released the draft of its final report on Building 7. In that draft NIST claims that the building took 40% longer than "free-fall time" to collapse the first 18 stories. In a technical briefing that followed the release of the draft report Shyam Sunder, NIST's lead investigator, denied that free-fall had occurred and stated that free-fall was incompatible with their analysis.

Shyam Sunder said,

"... a free all time would be an object that has no ... structural components below it... And that is not at all unusual because there was [emphasis in original] structural resistance that was provided in this particular case. And you had ... a sequence of structural failures that had to take place and everything was not instantaneous."
Smoking Gun

One of this article's co-authors, David Chandler, used video analysis to show conclusively that for 2.5 seconds (about 100 feet) WTC 7 was in complete free-fall. He publicly challenged NIST's claims at the technical briefing and he, along with others, filed formal requests for corrections.

NIST were forced to reverse themselves in their Final Report and acknowledged 2.25 seconds of absolute free-fall. Yet they did not reconsider how this was compatible with their analysis!

A network of heavy steel girders had to be forcibly removed suddenly across the width of the building for a total of eight floors. However, a free-falling object cannot exert force on anything in its path without slowing its own fall, so the structural support had to be removed by something else -- explosives. This is why engineers and architects believe the free-fall of Building 7 is a smoking gun.

....

NO KIDDING

....

September 11, 2001 - live broadcast by BBC

"breaking news" - Building 7 at the World Trade Center has collapsed.

OOOOPS - the building can be seen -- still standing -- in the background shot.

so WHO issued poor Jane Stanley (dupe) the report she read out - that said: THE BUILDING HAS COLLAPSED?

jeeeeehadis dressed as BBC producers?
ROTFLMHO.

Married_Richenbrachen · Oct 18, 2013

Re: Treasure Island...

zone said:

I think at least 7 of the hijackers must have been wearing clothes made from the same material as the passport and bandana, because these hijackers miraculously survived the disintegrating planes, with little to no bodily damage.

If the FBI were smart, they could get that material sent to NASA for analysis, who could reproduce it to prevent any more unfortunate space shuttle disasters. With all the money saved on failed space missions, perhaps we could go to the moon again, or even to Mars? I mean, just to disprove all the doubters?

zone · Oct 18, 2013

[video=youtube;gJB7KY7igTQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJB7KY7igTQ[/video]

Uploaded on Sep 16, 2011
Dr. Steven E. Jones is known primarily for his work on muon-catalyzed fusion. He has published over 50 peer-reviewed papers, and has published a number of articles in journals such as Nature, and Physical Review Letters.

Dr. Jones earned his bachelor's degree in physics, magna cum laude with honors, from Brigham Young University in 1973. Throughout his undergraduate degree Jones retained the Presidential (David O. McKay) Scholarship. He earned a Ph.D. in physics from Vanderbilt University in 1978. Dr. Jones conducted his Ph.D. research at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (from 1974 to 1977), and completed coursework at Stanford University. His post-doctoral research was conducted at Cornell University and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility. Dr. Jones joined the Brigham Young University Department of Physics and Astronomy as faculty in 1985, where he continued to do work in muon-catalyzed fusion and high energy physics.

In the fall of 2006, Professor Jones was forced to retire early from Brigham Young University due to political pressures related to his work on the collapse of the World Trade Center.

Dr. Jones retired on October 20, 2006 with the status of Professor Emeritus.

Articles by Prof. Steven E. Jones related to the WTC event on 9/11:

"Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" (2009)
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/to...

"Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence
for energetic materials" (2009)
Home - Springer...

"Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the
World Trade Center Destruction" (2008)
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/to...

letti · Oct 18, 2013

I heard it was larry silverstein who ordered building 7 be pulled,that means it had to have been rigged ahead of time.Larry Silverstein admits WTC7 was pulled down on 9/11 - YouTube,

PoxEclipse · Oct 18, 2013

An interesting physics project...

[video=youtube;4_J7ak_IZXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_J7ak_IZXk[/video]

Uploaded on Sep 5, 2011
Demo video of the development of the Demolition feature for Blender 2.5x/2.6.
The main purpose of this video is to prove the capabilities of my physics system development, if any. It is not intended to prove or disprove 9/11 conspiracy theories. I'm deleting comments that include hate speech, so you better think twice before starting an argument about the reasons of 9/11 here.

This test case scenario needed 10 minutes per frame to calculate geometry deformations and additional 5 minutes to render the image. The test system was an Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition with 3,33 GHz, 12 virtual cores and 12 GB of RAM.

Check here for a slowed down version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh3qUm...

Test 2 is VERY interesting also!

WTC collapsing test 2 - YouTube

zone · Oct 18, 2013

[video=youtube;rnbMjAN7Bws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbMjAN7Bws[/video]

CIA Insider Tells 911 truth. Time to re-examine your World-view, America!

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