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I see no logical reason to support the pharisees 
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Dancing and prancing in 16th century Prussian/Russo-Slavic Jewish garb while being the supposed Chosen of the world and eating Kosher chocolate bars at international airports while being zealous to fly back to the Promised Land of New York via Moscow: how can you not get behind that kind of verve?
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they appear to be enjoying themselves; I would hazard a guess that they DONT CARE what you think
I would hazard that guess as well. I've had to fly back with plane loads of them about 5 times now. They do stick together. I'll give them that much.
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If you choose not to support Judaism that is your prerogative as a Christian, but what do you believe to be the blindness in part that has happened to Israel in Rom 11:25?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Israel in this verse cannot be the church so it has to be speaking of Israel as a people and nation as opposed to the Gentiles and the nations thereof. What would be the characteristics of that blindness? Would it have anything to do with the state of Judaism? I encourage those that liked your post to answer or express their thoughts on this if they would like.
Love everyone, trust no one except our Father, Yah. Treat any who do not Love God as a non-believer. The family in Yeshua is always first, but this never is to be interpreted to exclude any who have not yet discovered the truth of Messiah, this would be non-believing Jews and Gentiles alike. We are to attract them to the faith by our love for each other and our love for them.
This may surprise some, but we are to love them whether they believe or do not believe, whether they love us or hate us, and whether we are in agreement or not. This is never to be said we support anyone politically, unless their politics are above, that is the Kingdom to come and the King.
All too many are willing to come forth against Jews because they do not yet know Messiah. Keep in mind there are probably millions who claim to believe and do not, yet we love them..............let us love all.
This may surprise some, but we are to love them whether they believe or do not believe, whether they love us or hate us, and whether we are in agreement or not. This is never to be said we support anyone politically, unless their politics are above, that is the Kingdom to come and the King.
All too many are willing to come forth against Jews because they do not yet know Messiah. Keep in mind there are probably millions who claim to believe and do not, yet we love them..............let us love all.
Totally unChristian thinking.
That and $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, since the death of Christ has any value apart from faith in Christ Jesus.
No one who rejects the Christ Jesus, God's only begotten Son, is able to reflect God.
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If many pagans have the truth written on their hearts, with their own consciences accusing and excusing them as they act, it is a good probability the chosen of Yahweh have some of those traits within their ranks. Do not judge anyone to condemnation, and respect those who post in love.
Is this a trick question?
Only one characteristic--rejection of Jesus of Nazareth as the Christ and only begotten Son of God.
By this lesson I have always believed there is a Plan for the non-believing Jews. I am grateful first to our Father, but I am always grateful to the Children of Israel for their continuing role in my Salvation, this is a mystery no one should be unaware of or ignore.
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Israel (not the church) is the one who is blinded in part UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Some of you don't know how to define this Israel that Paul is speaking of. Then what happens to Israel once the fulness has come in? Do they go out and have a kosher party?
Rom 11:25,26 25 Lest you be self-opinionated (wise in your own conceits), I do not want you to miss this hidden truth and mystery, brethren: a hardening (insensibility) has [temporarily] befallen a part of Israel [to last] until the full number of the in gathering of the Gentiles has come in.
Listen to what the scriptures have to say in Rom 11:11-14.
11 I say then, Have they (Israel not the church) stumbled that they (Israel not the church) should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall (Israel not the church) salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them (Israel not the church) to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall (lapse into transgression) of them (Israel not the church) be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them (Israel not the church) the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their (Israel not the church) fulness (or reinstatement)?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation (jealousy) them (Israel not the church) which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them (Israel not the church) be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be (Israel not the church), but life from the dead?
When are they to be received and by whom are they to be received? If Israel is not really Israel then how can they be received and when they are received it will be nothing but life from the dead.
30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. -Romans 11
did Paul REALLY mean to say:
30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may be shown mercy after a 2000 dispensation of inexplicable blinding because for some reason God can't or won't save jews & gentiles at the same time - in MY (PAUL'S) DAY.
32For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all, but no jews receive any mercy for 2000 years, all those just die in blindness brought on by God for a mysterious 2000 giant revival (through tribulation and fire) after the gentiles are sucked up in the cosmic vacuum cleaner rapture so God can concentrate on saving jews again - His Plan A.
oh ya.
that's what Romans says...sure.
did Paul REALLY mean to say:
30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may be shown mercy after a 2000 dispensation of inexplicable blinding because for some reason God can't or won't save jews & gentiles at the same time - in MY (PAUL'S) DAY.
32For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all, but no jews receive any mercy for 2000 years, all those just die in blindness brought on by God for a mysterious 2000 giant revival (through tribulation and fire) after the gentiles are sucked up in the cosmic vacuum cleaner rapture so God can concentrate on saving jews again - His Plan A.
oh ya.
that's what Romans says...sure.
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