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Meerkat

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Ok, I would never question God's love for anyone, and I didn't even mention anything about that. I just stated that his word is like our manual for life, it shows what is right and wrong. You can take it or leave it but that's what it does.
I'm sorry if that came off as odd, I just do not enjoy being jumped on because my beliefs differ from others (as another member is currently doing on this thread).
 
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Georgiana

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I believe differently than you. God loves me no less for it.

I came here to express my feelings on the subject for the OP, not conform to what you or anyone else believes.
God loves you no less. This is absolutely true. But if you continue in sin, you will still die in your sin. Those are just the facts. God does not change. Sin remains sin always. It's not about judgement. It's about what sin will do to you.
 
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Meerkat

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God loves you no less. This is absolutely true. But if you continue in sin, you will still die in your sin. Those are just the facts. God does not change. Sin remains sin always. It's not about judgement. It's about what sin will do to you.
As I have said again and again, we believe differently. Please move on. I was here to express my feelings to the OP.
 
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Georgiana

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Who are you to question my faith? I believe differently from you, that is all there is to say.
What I've said is absolutely true because I only quoted scriptures. You're just ignoring the facts here, and I'm very sorry for that, sorry for you. I hope you see the truth and turn around. But I can't make you recognize the facts. That's up to you. You've been told what scriptures say, and it's all up to you now. I'll honestly pray you'll see the truth.
 
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OceanGrl

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I'm sorry if that came off as odd, I just do not enjoy being jumped on because my beliefs differ from others (as another member is currently doing on this thread).
Well, you'll have to have a thick skin in some of the topics that are covered here, especially ones that are controversial. Even if you're just trying to respond to the OP, other members are able to challenge you on what you're saying. Things like this will always foster debate.
 
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Meerkat

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What I've said is absolutely true because I only quoted scriptures. You're just ignoring the facts here, and I'm very sorry for that, sorry for you. I hope you see the truth and turn around. But I can't make you recognize the facts. That's up to you. You've been told what scriptures say, and it's all up to you now. I'll honestly pray you'll see the truth.
Hello, I am a liberal Christian, nice to meet you.

I am not ignoring facts. I believe that the Bible was the word of God, but was written by human hands and thus is not entirely accurate. I believe that there is much truth in it, but that there is also much error.

I have a different belief than you. I feel it is equally valid. I have spent many years reading the Bible, along with praying and talking to God, and He has lead me to this decision.

Please do not insinuate that I am wrong because of what I believe.

If you disagree, please act as if I do not exist and continue with your day.
 
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richie_2uk

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How Can anyone be a Gay Christian? Christian is to be Christ like, and he was not Gay. He was happy but not Gay. However, He loves Gay people, but not there actions and there practices. So no you Cannot be a Gay Christian. And what ever you believe in to suit your own self belief? It clearly says in the Bible. that its forbidden.

God made us in his image. and when He made man, He also created woman. and gave them permission to multiply abundantly. If he made us Gay? then in a way you are saying that God is Gay. in which he is not. otherwise why would he forbid it in the Bible. surely there would be contradiction there? But No, He love people despise of our sin. He don't judge the love he has for us, but He judge the actions we do against his word. Don't take my word for it, read it for yourself.

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Romans 1:26-27 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1 Timothy 1:10 The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
 
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Upfront (not that it matters), I am not gay.

That being said, I don't know how I feel about whether or not being gay and acting on it is a sin or not...but right now, I'm thinking that it's not. Again: I DON'T KNOW ECACTLY HOW I FEEL.

I know all of the verses that people use to point out that it is wrong and not how God created it.

BUT, I've also heard views on the other side of it. I also study a bit of ancient history in school and know that man-on-man action in the Bible wasn't what it is today. Then, it was talking about rape and that has never been ok. (I also don't have all the facts on this.)

I know Christians who are gay and are ok with God. They feel that it is not a sin (and I know they aren't justifying their sin by saying this--they've actually experienced God's comfort in who they are with this...meaning that they are gay).

So, I was wondering if anyone on here is gay and would like to share how they feel in their relationship with God on this.

Comments from straight people are welcome, too, of course.

I've just been incredibly curious and confused about this for a while.

Our feelings about something do not matter.

As far as gay Christians, yes I do believe there are gay Christians. Just like there are lying Christians, adulterous Christians, murderous Christians and so forth ...

God hates the sin, not the sinner and as long as there is true repentance, God will forgive us.
 
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Sin is sin right? Maybe not.
We are commanded not to do at least 10 things and commanded to do one.
There are outside of the givens what is called by God abominations. Not repenting from any sin and especially abominations will put you in reprobate. Once you have been turned over to a reprobate mind there is NO repentance or turning back. Does that sound like anyone we know? Satan and the other fallen devils perhaps? Find out what abominations are and then you tell me if someone is truly a new creation in Christ are they still gay? Not if they are really saved.
 
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Vestarena

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Hello, I am a liberal Christian, nice to meet you.

I am not ignoring facts. I believe that the Bible was the word of God, but was written by human hands and thus is not entirely accurate. I believe that there is much truth in it, but that there is also much error.

I have a different belief than you. I feel it is equally valid. I have spent many years reading the Bible, along with praying and talking to God, and He has lead me to this decision.

Please do not insinuate that I am wrong because of what I believe.

If you disagree, please act as if I do not exist and continue with your day.
Reading through these posts, it seems your belief system comes in quite handy when you want to do something the Bible says is wrong. "This part wasn't translated correctly, so I don't believe it, so I'll do what I FEEL FEEL FEEL okay about. Are your feelings all you're about? From what I read, she wasn't just insinuating you're wrong. She is SAYING you're wrong. lol. From what I've read on your posts, you keep saying your beliefs are different than hers, but you give no idea what your beliefs are based on. Obviously, they're not based on the Bible. Oh yeah, your basing your belief entirely on your feelings. Well how bout not calling that Christianity? Christianity is based on the Holy Bible.
 
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Meerkat

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Reading through these posts, it seems your belief system comes in quite handy when you want to do something the Bible says is wrong. "This part wasn't translated correctly, so I don't believe it, so I'll do what I FEEL FEEL FEEL okay about. Are your feelings all you're about? From what I read, she wasn't just insinuating you're wrong. She is SAYING you're wrong. lol. From what I've read on your posts, you keep saying your beliefs are different than hers, but you give no idea what your beliefs are based on. Obviously, they're not based on the Bible. Oh yeah, your basing your belief entirely on your feelings. Well how bout not calling that Christianity? Christianity is based on the Holy Bible.
Please do not insult my beliefs. I am entitled to them. I did not come here to start an argument, I came here to speak to the OP.
 
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Vestarena

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Hello! I am also a Christian who is part of the LGBT* group.

I too have read about the history of the few verses that seem to condemn homosexual behavior and how they may or may not have been mistranslated.
"I have read about the history of the few verses that seem to condemn homosexual behavior...."

You haven't actually read these verses for yourself? Tell me; have you actually read any of the Bible at all? You think there are just a few of these verses? You also think these verses only seem to condemn homosexual behavior? You clearly haven't ever read these verses for yourself. You've obviously only read some article that was slanted in your favor. And you're obviously entirely content with this. The truth is, every last time homosexual behavior is mentioned in the bible, it is condemned. To say otherwise is like trying to convince people the sky is not really blue. You're lying to yourself. I can only hope you can still hear and haven't been turned over to a reprobate mind, which by choice, can't hear the truth anymore at all.

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with man as he does with woman, both of them have committed an abomination. Their blood shall be upon them."

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1Cr 6:9 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality...

Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)

You're saying all those verses were mistranslated? Then you're just ignoring the facts.
 
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Meerkat

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"I have read about the history of the few verses that seem to condemn homosexual behavior...."

You haven't actually read these verses for yourself? Tell me; have you actually read any of the Bible at all? You think there are just a few of these verses? You also think these verses only seem to condemn homosexual behavior? You clearly haven't ever read these verses for yourself. You've obviously only read some article that was slanted in your favor. And you're obviously entirely content with this. The truth is, every last time homosexual behavior is mentioned in the bible, it is condemned. To say otherwise is like trying to convince people the sky is not really blue. You're lying to yourself. I can only hope you can still hear and haven't been turned over to a reprobate mind, which by choice, can't hear the truth anymore at all.

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with man as he does with woman, both of them have committed an abomination. Their blood shall be upon them."

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1Cr 6:9 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality...

Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)

You're saying all those verses were mistranslated? Then you're just ignoring the facts.
I did not come here to debate. I am set in my beliefs, and do not wish to change anyone elses.
 
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Grey

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Its interesting to see people publicly condemn homosexual Christians as being averse to the bibles teachings yet remain silent on their own moral failures.
 
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jacobthewolf

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What matters is the feeling you get when you talk to God about it.


No human has the right to judge another based on how they listen and follow God's word. That is His job.
What god are you talking to, who responds with feelings? Sorry, but how you feel is often directly opposed to the truth. The Bible says the Heart is deceitful above all things. Jeremiah 17:9. Most peopl express the strongest feeling sfrom their heart.

Sadly, many Christians are being led woefully astray by their "Feelings". Feelings vary and change. God word does not.

You are incorrect, when you say that what matters is how you feel. You must trust God's Word. It never changes. Unlike your feelings.
 
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jacobthewolf

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I dont think being attracted to the same sex is a sin. You're attracted to who you're attracted to. I do, however, think acting on you're homosexual feelings is a sin. If you're attracted to the same sex ( not saying that you are) then pray on it and ask God for guidance to stop feeling the way that you do and the strength to resist you're urges. Blessings! :)
So, people who are attracted to animals are okay? What about people who are attracted to children? Are they, "Attracted to who they are attracted to?"

How about the men and women caught up in the homosexual lifestyle, who desire to leave it's deceitful, unfulfilling nature?
 
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Meerkat

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What god are you talking to, who responds with feelings? Sorry, but how you feel is often directly opposed to the truth. The Bible says the Heart is deceitful above all things. Jeremiah 17:9. Most peopl express the strongest feeling sfrom their heart.

Sadly, many Christians are being led woefully astray by their "Feelings". Feelings vary and change. God word does not.

You are incorrect, when you say that what matters is how you feel. You must trust God's Word. It never changes. Unlike your feelings.
My beliefs are my beliefs. They are different from yours and that is okay.
 
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jacobthewolf

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Personally, I believe that homosexuality is sin and it's something that God had never intended, nor desired. I feel the same way about abortion.

However, and that's a big however, it doesn't mean that homosexuals are going to Hell or anything like that. It's always assumed that homosexuals will go to Hell. Not true at all, In fact I can't stand when people say that. God loves everyone no matter what they do. As long as you believe in God, there isn't anything you can do that will send you to Hell.

If you're a non-believer, well that's another story...

By the way, i'm not trying to offend anyone or anything like that. I don't judge.
What religion are you refering to? Certainly not Christianity, because the Christian Bible (Not. Um. Your feelings.) says that homosexuals will NOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

I am always intrigued on how well meaning people who proclaim to serve the God fo the Bible, directly contradict His unchanging Word.
 
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Grey

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So, people who are attracted to animals are okay? What about people who are attracted to children? Are they, "Attracted to who they are attracted to?"

How about the men and women caught up in the homosexual lifestyle, who desire to leave it's deceitful, unfulfilling nature?

Its interesting how you immediately make that leap.