Senator Pacquiao a born again christian but turns into a professing christian.

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fredoheaven

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Just truth meron po akong mahalagang katanungan po sa inyo, set aside muna sandali ang politis. Kung sakaling bawiaan kayo ng buhay mamaya o bukas, kayo po ba ay nakakatiyak 100% papunta sa langit?
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fredoheaven said:
Just truth meron po akong mahalagang katanungan po sa inyo, set aside muna sandali ang politis. Kung sakaling bawiaan kayo ng buhay mamaya o bukas, kayo po ba ay nakakatiyak 100% papunta sa langit?
Thank you
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Yes, as what I said lately once you believe and in Christ you are already born again qualifies you to enter heaven, just simply it is. Like Pacquiao if he really did it, same he is candidate for heaven, but what he did now for unchristian actions, may lost his crown in heaven just like he lost his crown as world boxing champion when he was defeated lately by Australian boxer. Pacquiao may lost his crown in heaven for using his senate seat as instrument for obstruction of justice.
 
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It is my personal opinion, from everything I've seen and heard, that Pacquiao had a genuine conversion, and that he's serious about his faith.

However, it is also my personal opinion that getting involved in politics is like getting sucked into a dark black hole.

I sincerely hope he'll make right decisions, and do right things.
 
fredoheaven

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just_truth said:
Yes, as what I said lately once you believe and in Christ you are already born again qualifies you to enter heaven, just simply it is. Like Pacquiao if he really did it, same he is candidate for heaven, but what he did now for unchristian actions, may lost his crown in heaven just like he lost his crown as world boxing champion when he was defeated lately by Australian boxer. Pacquiao may lost his crown in heaven for using his senate seat as instrument for obstruction of justice.
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Okay, you just made a point in here and I could no longer comment on the activities of Mr. Pacquaio. If that's a big deal for you of the alleged wrong doing of Pacquiao, I think it is rightful to pray for him, what about that?

Thank you kabayan
 
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fredoheaven said:
Okay, you just made a point in here and I could no longer comment on the activities of Mr. Pacquaio. If that's a big deal for you of the alleged wrong doing of Pacquiao, I think it is rightful to pray for him, what about that?

Thank you kabayan
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Yes, we as a believers it is rightful to pray for him. It is not more rightful to reprove or rebuke him?
 
fredoheaven

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just_truth said:
Yes, we as a believers it is rightful to pray for him. It is not more rightful to reprove or rebuke him?
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Had someone given you the authority to rebuke a Senator? Would you mind to explain “rebuke” otherwise it would be a repeat of misunderstanding of your post? Well of course, we are entitled to our own opinion but do you have the guts to rebuke Senator Pacquiao? If you rebuke someone, you speak severely to them because they have said or done something that you do not approve of. Am I on the same page in understanding your rebuke? And since this is a CC, would it be cool to have some scriptural backing of your assertion?

Thanks and God bless
 
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fredoheaven said:
Just truth meron po akong mahalagang katanungan po sa inyo, set aside muna sandali ang politis. Kung sakaling bawiaan kayo ng buhay mamaya o bukas, kayo po ba ay nakakatiyak 100% papunta sa langit?
Thank you
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just_truth said:
Yes, as what I said lately once you believe and in Christ you are already born again qualifies you to enter heaven, just simply it is. Like Pacquiao if he really did it, same he is candidate for heaven, but what he did now for unchristian actions, may lost his crown in heaven just like he lost his crown as world boxing champion when he was defeated lately by Australian boxer. Pacquiao may lost his crown in heaven for using his senate seat as instrument for obstruction of justice.
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fredoheaven I would like to reiterate as what I said previously once you believe and in Christ you are already born again qualifies you to enter heaven, and one of the pre-requisite is WATER BAPTISM commanded by Jesus.
 
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When a person is baptized then they become a born again Christian(John 3:5). When Our Lord is speaking of water and the Spirit, He is referring to Baptism. This is exemplified in His own Baptism when He was baptized, in water, and the Holy Spirit descended, like a dove, from Heaven.
 
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so you were saying delimma is innocent? LOL....She's proven guilty in court as drug protector for big time druglords and already jailed for months.....Paolo duterte can't be guilty since all the allegations were just so nonsense . You can't judge pacquiao for what he is, only God knows everything about him. As Christian ,we shouldn't do that to fellow believers . As for me , Pacquiao is very humble man despite of his achievements. He helps many poor people here in mindanao. of course , he's the real deal "born again".
 
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fredoheaven said:
Just truth meron po akong mahalagang katanungan po sa inyo, set aside muna sandali ang politis. Kung sakaling bawiaan kayo ng buhay mamaya o bukas, kayo po ba ay nakakatiyak 100% papunta sa langit?
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH who said that she is already proven in court as drug protector??? You do not know that her
court case is still undergoing that she is not yet proven guilty. Ang mga Judge sa Muntinlupa ay umiiwas na hawakan ang kaso niya dahil alam nila na madaya ang kaso na sinampa sa kanya.
 
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH said:
so you were saying delimma is innocent? LOL....She's proven guilty in court as drug protector for big time druglords and already jailed for months.....Paolo duterte can't be guilty since all the allegations were just so nonsense . You can't judge pacquiao for what he is, only God knows everything about him. As Christian ,we shouldn't do that to fellow believers . As for me , Pacquiao is very humble man despite of his achievements. He helps many poor people here in mindanao. of course , he's the real deal "born again".
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH who said that she is already proven in court as drug protector??? You do not know that her
court case is still undergoing that she is not yet proven guilty. Ang mga Judge sa Muntinlupa ay umiiwas na hawakan ang kaso niya dahil alam nila na madaya ang kaso na sinampa sa kanya.
 
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH said:
so you were saying delimma is innocent? LOL....She's proven guilty in court as drug protector for big time druglords and already jailed for months.....Paolo duterte can't be guilty since all the allegations were just so nonsense . You can't judge pacquiao for what he is, only God knows everything about him. As Christian ,we shouldn't do that to fellow believers . As for me , Pacquiao is very humble man despite of his achievements. He helps many poor people here in mindanao. of course , he's the real deal "born again".
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH who said that Sen.De Lima is already proven in court as drug protector??? You do not know that her
court case is still undergoing that she is not yet proven guilty. Ang mga Judge sa Muntinlupa ay umiiwas na hawakan ang kaso niya dahil alam nila na madaya ang kaso na sinampa sa kanya.
 
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Hullexile said:
Delima has admitted that she had sexual relations with her driver, a married man. So she used her economic power to persuade a married man to commit adultery. This is the behavior you appear to be defending. Our values should be based on the Bible not on political views.

I have no doubt Pacquiao is a committed Christian.
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David a devoted to God of Old Testament but he still committed a sin both adultery and murder, but De Lima is not a great believer like David. Pacquiao was the one responsible of kicking Sen.De Lima from Senate justice committee that investigated the rampant killings...
 
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