THE GREAT COVID-19 VACCINE CRIMINAL COVER-UP

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ZNP

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You must just read the threads from CC about the vaccine.
Be glad if this is not in your area!
No, I just read the Bible and hypothetical mealy mouthed reasons why I shouldn't follow the Lord's leading are to be completely rejected. If you are worried that some family member will be offended because you didn't get the vaccine then you are not worthy of the kingdom.
 

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No, I just read the Bible and hypothetical mealy mouthed reasons why I shouldn't follow the Lord's leading are to be completely rejected. If you are worried that some family member will be offended because you didn't get the vaccine then you are not worthy of the kingdom.
Brother, i am not shure that you understand what I wrote. I have no problem with my family. We are all vaccined. My youngest daughter had recently Covid. ( She was the only one who was not boostered)
That the vaccine question is splitting families I see in Christian (mostly russiangermans) families and in families of non Christians. And again I see it here on CC where we all are claim to be children of God and follower of Christ.
 

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Brother, i am not shure that you understand what I wrote. I have no problem with my family. We are all vaccined. My youngest daughter had recently Covid. ( She was the only one who was not boostered)
That the vaccine question is splitting families I see in Christian (mostly russiangermans) families and in families of non Christians. And again I see it here on CC where we all are claim to be children of God and follower of Christ.
So what is your point? The Lord said 49 I came to cast fire upon the earth; and [y]what do I desire, if it is already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Think ye that I am come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 for there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 They shall be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother in law against her daughter in law, and daughter in law against her mother in law.

Are you saying this is a fulfillment of the Lord's word here concerning His coming?

54 And he said to the multitudes also, When ye see a cloud rising in the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it cometh to pass. 55 And when ye see a south wind blowing, ye say, There will be a [z]scorching heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye know how to [aa]interpret the face of the earth and the heaven; but how is it that ye know not how to [ab]interpret this time?


Are you trying to interpret this time as the Day of the Lord?

57 And why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? 58 For as thou art going with thine adversary before the magistrate, on the way give diligence to be quit of him; lest haply he drag thee unto the judge, and the judge shall deliver thee to the [ac]officer, and the [ad]officer shall cast thee into prison. 59 I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou have paid the very last mite.

are you saying that this mandate is not right and we should all be judging this mandate as from the evil one?
 

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So what is your point? The Lord said 49 I came to cast fire upon the earth; and [y]what do I desire, if it is already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Think ye that I am come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 for there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 They shall be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother in law against her daughter in law, and daughter in law against her mother in law.

Are you saying this is a fulfillment of the Lord's word here concerning His coming?

54 And he said to the multitudes also, When ye see a cloud rising in the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it cometh to pass. 55 And when ye see a south wind blowing, ye say, There will be a [z]scorching heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye know how to [aa]interpret the face of the earth and the heaven; but how is it that ye know not how to [ab]interpret this time?


Are you trying to interpret this time as the Day of the Lord?

57 And why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? 58 For as thou art going with thine adversary before the magistrate, on the way give diligence to be quit of him; lest haply he drag thee unto the judge, and the judge shall deliver thee to the [ac]officer, and the [ad]officer shall cast thee into prison. 59 I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou have paid the very last mite.

are you saying that this mandate is not right and we should all be judging this mandate as from the evil one?
As I said, you dont understand what I wrote.
It is simply the fact that the vaccine question is splitting Christians and Families. Thats a tragedy. And instead to support this fact. We should fight against this fact.
 

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Are you saying this is a fulfillment of the Lord's word here concerning His coming?
You do twist what others have said - when they make a simple point and do so to express a reality in those lives of whom they are speaking. You are not nearly well enough equipped to make prophetic claims, brother - but you will and the fruit will be reaped from your own threshing floor. I tried to engage you previously in another thread and you made the same schismatic gestures - only that time it was away from a prophetic meaning because you cannot hold to a prophetic line of reason. Perhaps you ought to go back to teaching those science subjects you walked away from because you are more determined to run for your life - than you are willing to lay it down in the service of others.
 

ZNP

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As I said, you dont understand what I wrote.
It is simply the fact that the vaccine question is splitting Christians and Families. Thats a tragedy. And instead to support this fact. We should fight against this fact.
You don't understand what Jesus said. In order to bring in the kingdom families being split apart is inevitable. You do not allow the unbeliever to drive the car or determine your walk. I will follow the Lord, if that results in a fire falling on the Earth and a division in a family, well the Lord told us that would be the case.
 

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You do twist what others have said - when they make a simple point and do so to express a reality in those lives of whom they are speaking. You are not nearly well enough equipped to make prophetic claims, brother - but you will and the fruit will be reaped from your own threshing floor. I tried to engage you previously in another thread and you made the same schismatic gestures - only that time it was away from a prophetic meaning because you cannot hold to a prophetic line of reason. Perhaps you ought to go back to teaching those science subjects you walked away from because you are more determined to run for your life - than you are willing to lay it down in the service of others.
I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.

My post on the other hand says that "for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian" we must follow the Lord and should not be surprised if the result is a fire, uprisings, protests, and division.

We need to speak truth in love. Being concerned for others doesn't mean we stop speaking the truth.
 

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I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.

My post on the other hand says that "for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian" we must follow the Lord and should not be surprised if the result is a fire, uprisings, protests, and division.

We need to speak truth in love. Being concerned for others doesn't mean we stop speaking the truth.
Then walk in the midst of fires and pluck from the flames those whom the Lord has called out - stop throwing black coal into the flames.
 

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No it is not COVID that is killing vast numbers. What's killing people are (1) the total sabotage of early and very effective treatments and (2) the bogus "vaccines" which are simply lethal and toxic injections.

Also there is someone who disagrees with post #130, which is actually a RESEARCH PAPER showing the harmful effects of graphene oxide. So now --- through the propaganda wars -- people (such as yourself) are choosing to believe all the lies rather than the cold hard facts.

That is how insidious propaganda is. All the governments, public health agencies, and mainstream media have been flat out lying to the public day after day for two years. And as the Fascists and Communists noted long ago, when you repeat a lie long enough and strong enough, it becomes "the truth".

George Orwell already described this Dystopia in 1984.
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM -- LIES ARE TRUTH -- EVIL IS GOOD.
What is in a difference to that what you do?
All the sources you QUOTE are from non believers, means from people who have not Gods Spirit. So I can remember to a thread( i cant find again, i think it was in march of 21) where you claimed that after an year 65% of the vaccined will die. I am now vaccined first time one year ago.

I mean it is not wrong to questioning statements given from others. I dont belong to those who believe everything and everybody. Over 30 years of be a Christians showed me that even in the church I cant trust everybody. So much more less to people who have not Gods Spirit.
So you are misstrust the mainstream, what is mainly correct. But you trust other sources whithout questioning them.
Money and power/influence are the main engine for to do or say something in this world. Sadly you can find this also among Christian Organisations and churches.
So my conclusion is to be slow with claimes which I cant proof.
Official 60,1 Million people are in germany fully vaccined. Out of the 1919 ( it is not proofen that the vaccine in all cases was the caus) died after vaccination. Till now 119 000 died because of the virus.
So to say, for germany, that more people died because of the vaccine then the virus is obviously wrong.
 

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Then walk in the midst of fires and pluck from the flames those whom the Lord has called out - stop throwing black coal into the flames.
The Lord has come to cast fire on the Earth. Everyone has the choice to receive the savior or be the black coal that is consumed in this fire.

2Peter 3:7 but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Telling people of the coming judgement is what it means to be a witness who does not withhold from you the whole counsel of God.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.

Sin will be judged. You are not showing people any mercy or love to not tell people this.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And on some have mercy, who are in doubt; 23 and some save, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

First you build yourselves up in the faith. How? Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If you are not speaking the word of God you are not building anyone up in the faith. With our faith built up we are able to keep ourselves in love and mercy. Telling people not to tell the truth is neither love or mercy.

Then we need to have mercy on some. Who? Those who are in doubt. Strengthen their faith by speaking the word.

"Snatch some from the fire". The world is a condemned building that is on fire. The Pandemic is a fire, the vaccine is gasoline. Warning people is our attempt to snatch them out of this burning building.
 

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I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.

My post on the other hand says that "for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian" we must follow the Lord and should not be surprised if the result is a fire, uprisings, protests, and division.

We need to speak truth in love. Being concerned for others doesn't mean we stop speaking the truth.
So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
 

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So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
I do not determine who is following the Lord and who isn't. That would put me in the position of a judge and I am not a judge, I am a witness. I neither judge who is following the Lord, who isn't, or who is "the true follower". I find it strange that anyone who claims to be a believer that Jesus is Lord would seek to usurp the Lord's position and judge others. Especially since the NT is extremely clear on this point that we are not to judge another man's servant.

So I hope this helps you to understand, in brief do not judge lest you yourself will be judged. With what judgement you judge others you shall be judged.

My responsibility is to witness, what you do with that is up to you. If I keep quiet your blood will be on my hands, if I speak then I will be free of your blood.
 

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The Lord has come to cast fire on the Earth. Everyone has the choice to receive the savior or be the black coal that is consumed in this fire.

2Peter 3:7 but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Telling people of the coming judgement is what it means to be a witness who does not withhold from you the whole counsel of God.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.

Sin will be judged. You are not showing people any mercy or love to not tell people this.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And on some have mercy, who are in doubt; 23 and some save, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

First you build yourselves up in the faith. How? Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If you are not speaking the word of God you are not building anyone up in the faith. With our faith built up we are able to keep ourselves in love and mercy. Telling people not to tell the truth is neither love or mercy.

Then we need to have mercy on some. Who? Those who are in doubt. Strengthen their faith by speaking the word.

"Snatch some from the fire". The world is a condemned building that is on fire. The Pandemic is a fire, the vaccine is gasoline. Warning people is our attempt to snatch them out of this burning building.
As was said to you - the fruit will be reaped from your own threshing floor. By your own hand shall you be proven.
 

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So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
Die fröhliche Wissenschaft und Übermensch.

Nietzsche

Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!" -- As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated? -- Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him -- you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars -- and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"


[Source: Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science (1882, 1887) para. 125; Walter Kaufmann ed. (New York: Vintage, 1974), pp.181-82.]
 

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I do not determine who is following the Lord and who isn't. That would put me in the position of a judge and I am not a judge, I am a witness. I neither judge who is following the Lord, who isn't, or who is "the true follower". I find it strange that anyone who claims to be a believer that Jesus is Lord would seek to usurp the Lord's position and judge others. Especially since the NT is extremely clear on this point that we are not to judge another man's servant.

So I hope this helps you to understand, in brief do not judge lest you yourself will be judged. With what judgement you judge others you shall be judged.

My responsibility is to witness, what you do with that is up to you. If I keep quiet your blood will be on my hands, if I speak then I will be free of your blood.
Of course you judge, but you avoid to use this word. It would be better to say it clear!
 

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Thats always a matter, whom to believe.
Btw: till the date of today.much more people died because of the virus and not because of the vaccine. This is a fact! While your claime is till today unproofen!
The future will reveal you claime is right or wrong. Till today at least it is wrong!
The medical authorities conspicuously and purposely withheld IVM, HCQ, intravenous vitamin C.

Anything everything that did not have a Big Pharma $$$price tag$$$ on it.

The greatest medical fraud in all of human history IMO. Millions of needless deaths.

And now finally they are admitting that IVM works wonderfully. In this due to the persistent efforts of some legit conscientious doctors and researchers.

BTW.....Around here huge numbers of nurses were refusing the vaccine wholesale, and were ready to walk away from their jobs. The government authorities freaked out and flipped on the draconian vaccine mandates.

The nurses won. Of course they suspected the truth behind the vaccine scam.

I talk to pro-vaccine nutters on a daily basis. By and large they are dumb they are brainwashed they are gaslighted they are ill-informed.......they are pretty much blinded to the truth. Pro Big Government pro Big Pharma NWO sock puppets if you asked me.

They always always let somebody else do the thinking for them. It's so much less painful and so much easier that way. Possessing the basic psychology of a prey herd animal.
 

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Brother, i am not shure that you understand what I wrote. I have no problem with my family. We are all vaccined. My youngest daughter had recently Covid. ( She was the only one who was not boostered)
That the vaccine question is splitting families I see in Christian (mostly russiangermans) families and in families of non Christians. And again I see it here on CC where we all are claim to be children of God and follower of Christ.
We are not vaccinated in my immediate family......none of us. And strangely enough it's like COVID never existed at all. A total nothingburger.

I was however taking IVM on a regular basis. Maybe that had something to do with it huh?

Refusing the jab was the best decision of my life IMO. A year and a half ago after endless amounts of research I realized that the whole vaxx promotion charade was bogus. And all of my predictions came to pass including: Jabs cannot provide immunity/herd immunity. They do not provide protection against contracting COVID. They are not properly tested. The ingredients are practically unknown. There will be huge numbers of vaxx injuries and deaths. etc. etc.

Are you aware of the unfolding scandal at the US Department of Defense? I will post the information shortly. Absolutely massive massive vaccine injuries and diseases triggered. The data coming in is truly incredible. It is such a huge scandal it might bring down the US government.
 

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Cancers coming back with a vengeance is very common after the COVID vax
If I had a dollar for every person who has related a story about a friend whose cancer was in remission before the COVID jabs, then became uncontrollable shortly after the jab, I could retire...

The DMED database shows the rate of cancer is up by 3X after the COVID vaccines rolled out. See ACT OF WAR: Thanks to COVID “vaccines,” the military’s cancer rate has more than TRIPLED

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/...0._sjZGiYPiJbDDB0ZOgJbBO2TqeLcg8H31ZEJ6UHlszE