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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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So let's make sure everyone understands because we are told repeatedly that the technology we have today the Government and the military had 20-25 years ago.

This makes sense, AI is supposed to be the most dangerous invention ever, capable of destroying mankind so surely something like that the military would make sure they had and were well ahead of the general public.

So then we now have AI that is scoring well above average on a variety of tests. One year ago it was operating at the level of a very smart HS graduate. Now it is operating at the level of a very smart college graduate/graduate student. By next June it is reasonable to think no college graduate will go to a white collar job. The AI will be performing better, cheaper, faster and improving better than any college graduate would and would have far less liability than a college graduate. We aren't simply talking about software, they also have robots that are capable of performing better than 50% of the blue collar workers right now and again by next June perhaps better than 80%.

But that is not my point. My point is that 20-25 years ago the military had this. If you believe in coincidences then you will love the fact that 911 just happened to take place causing the US government to give our military a blank check to build a brand new military. We know they spent a whole lot of money on drones and robots. We now know that humans controlling these remotely create the data needed to train the AI to fly them and control them. What we are seeing today the US military could see in 2001 and they invested heavily in this technology. They have super soldiers. They have AI. They have drones that fly themselves. Robots that operate themselves.

Today we are at a point where we could see the AI and robots replacing 80-90% of all workers in the next 5-10 years. That is where the military was in 2001! Do you think it is an accident that now we have all these wars?

If all these people all over the world will be put out of jobs (look at what the 3d printer did to cheap manufacturing in Asia) what are you going to do with them all? AI and robots can do things faster, cheaper and more efficiently. However, they don't pay tax, they don't buy houses, they don't buy cars. The entire world's economy is about to collapse. People do not like to be jobless, purposeless, and powerless. So then you have to manufacture WW3 to kill them all off. You need to lay the ground work for a massive plague to kill them all off. The vaccine is giving 2 billion people AIDS (immune deficiency) setting them up for this coming plague.

Now consider what we already have in place as of October 2, 2024. The UN has passed the Pact for the Future. This gives the UN the authority to completely control the internet and censor whatever they deem as misinformation or disinformation. Elon Musk has put starlink into space so that we can have one world internet that covers the entire earth, a platform that all sites will need to move to, and by so doing will mean that the UN has complete control of them the same way Facebook was censoring people on their platform. They already have AI operating better than most humans and improving exponentially. It is very likely that in one year AI will be operating better than 99% of humans, but even with the ones that can still compete in some area the AI will be faster. AI is being trained in a whole host of jobs.

So then they have already laid the groundwork where no one would be surprised if there were a black swan event destroying the US. Imagine the war with Russia and Iran heats up, some major strike hits them and they in turn hit us. This attack will completely wipe out the power grid in the US, so then they simply switch to Starlink and now they have the entire world captive to their platform.

They already have the brain chips that millions of people are asking to get because it promises to help people with a variety of disabilities (hearing, sight, paralyzed, etc). It is very reasonable that more people will be incentivized because it will be the only way to get a job if you get a chip. These chips control your thoughts. They can delete thoughts. They can give you whatever dreams you want.

All of this is ready to go, they are simply waiting for the massive Black Swan event that will cause the chaos which they will then have the "cure" for.
 

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We are AT WAR with an EPIC WAR between GOOD & EVIL!!!
We are inside of 21 Days before the most BIBLICAL Election in the HISTORY of the WORLD!!!
The Forces for GOOD are WINNING (just ask AJ/Info Wars)
THE DS HISTORIC STRATEGY has been to DIVIDE the FORCES for GOOD and KEEP them DIVIDED AT all Cost!
Especially as they ENTER the FINAL DAYS of the REIN of CONTROL over the WORLD!!!
The DS has also DIVIDED Christians over the History of the World via their DS CHURCH HIDDEN AGENDA

This VIDEO and your Summation are soo FLAWED with FLAWED LOGIC and REASONING; but the MOST AGREGIOUS and RECKLESS thing is the TIMING of these announcements (Conspiracy Theories) is seemingly OBLIVIOUS of the REAL WAR that only serves the DS NARRATIVE and OBJECTIVES at this PHASE of the most BIBLICAL WAR by spewing FEAR, DIVISION and CONFUSION amongst the FORCES for GOOD who would OPPOSE THEM...

TALK about CONPIRACIES!!!
If the DS already OWNED the Narrative why would Musk waste Billions to BUY TWITTER/X (note X stands for Xavier - his son who the DS Killed with their MIND VIRUS!!!)...
If the ANTI-CHRIST owns STARLINK - then why is it being used for GOOD to save innocent people who could just be left for dead as in Maui!!!

One of the ONLY things that they got right is that AI is already HERE and in the WRONG HANDS it will be BAD!!!
That is why at this stage this WAR is also a WAR for who will control the AI!!!


Just like a DS FAKE NEWS MSM Outlet - These guys and you NEVER seem to credit Musk for the GOOD in his INTENTIONS to help the mentally and physically handicapped to be WHOLE again... in this case - his context and intention is deliberately glossed over and then mis-represented... as only a DS CONSPIRACY THEORY...

The other thing that in this stage of WAR is the ABSOLUTE reference to the MILITARY (as Monolithic) as being up to NO GOOD!!
I happen to work in DoD and in AI and there are plenty of ADVOCATES like myself and positions to INFLUENCE the USE of RESPONSIBLE AI!!!

NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence
...RFK Jr will be able to help Make America Healthy Again!! Praying that the Powers for GOOD WIN the RACE to Control the GOVERNANCE of RESPONSIBLE AI in both the USA and the World… Praying that when the DS attempts to drive our Country to Civil Unrest and Civil War that Martial Law will be...

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    ...future certainly would look bleek for the future of AI... But the good news is that within DoD there are concerted efforts to require Responsible AI Governance as a means to mitigate risks and to ensure the Trustworthiness and Reliability of the DATA and the AI (to ensure checks and...
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    least we not forget that God's hand saved Trump on that day - proving that God is on the side of the Forces for Good, the White Hats and the Plan that has set the TRAP for the inevitable and most Biblical and Epic destruction of the DS Antichrist... Also, to be clear - the other reason why...

The Video Elon Musk Doesn’t Want You to See
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So let's make sure everyone understands because we are told repeatedly that the technology we have today the Government and the military had 20-25 years ago....
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    That's what I thought you would say... That's been your take for a very long time... Hmmmm I thought KLAUS SCHWAB and YUVAL NOAH HARAI have been very CLEAR and OUTSPOKEN about their Diabolic intentions with AI and that they are the ONES with the OVERT EVIL ANTI-CHRIST AGENDA... "When People...
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    We've heard/seen lots of bits and pieces from this interview/conversation between TWO GENIUSES of our TIME!!! Here is the FULL INTERVIEW - to listen and discern for yourselves!!! Open your minds to how GOD chooses his Biblical Warriors!!! These TWO are BOTH BIBILICAL WARRIORS in this Epic...
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    IMHO, losing his son to the evil DS helped him to most definitely join Forces with the WHITE HATS when he Bought Twitter... and began EXPOSING the DS Conspiracies and Guilty Operatives... He VOWED to destroy the DS!!! TILT!!! The WHITE HATS are DESTROYING the DS with an ONSLAUGHT of TRUTH...
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      ...to question or second guess GOD's HAND in the PRESENT TIMES of this BIBLICAL WAR... In Luke 12,51-56 The Lord calls those people Hypocrites who can not see his HAND in present time! Luke 12.51-56: "You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time?...
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      ...Calendar Years... 2nd Oct - Beginning of New Year... a month before (and change) before the Election... Luke 12.51-56 The Lord calls you Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time? We are...
 

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Elon Musk continues to DEBUNK the DS MISINFORMATION MACHINE & OPERATIVES
Elon Endorsed Trump than Provided a HUGELY IMPACTFUL & SERIOUS Speech in Pa TO get out the MAGA VOTE for what WILL be the LAST SIGNIFICANT & RELEVANT ELECTION otherwise!!!
LOL, talk about Flawed Logic - why would the DS (Anti-Christ) Sacrifice it's biggest OPERATIVES via TRUTH!!!

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Musk Backs Trump, Raises Epstein List Concerns
By David Rufful Published 4 hours ago
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Elon Musk recently endorsed former President Donald Trump during an interview with Tucker Carlson, discussing various topics such as his support for Trump, providing Starlink to Hurricane Helene victims, and concerns regarding the Epstein client list.

Musk suggested that billionaires backing Kamala Harris are motivated by fear of the Epstein list becoming public if Trump wins.

“Will [the Epstein list] ever come you think?” Tucker Carlson questioned Musk.
“You know, part of why Kamala is getting so much support is that if Trump wins, that Epstein client list is gonna become public,” Musk said.
Musk added, “And some of those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of that outcome,” to which Carlson asked, “Do you think Reid Hoffman’s uncomfortable?”
 

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Hey guys, I'm sure that I've figured out what the Q drop with a Mickey Mouse time piece is saying. It is telling us when the 10 days of darkness shall begin: this Wednesday [night], October 16.

It could be that the 10 days of Darkness (communications blackout (could also include a nationwide power outage as well)) could start on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which is this October the 16th (this feast lasts for 8 days). The hour hand of the time piece points to "10," as in this month of October. The 8 red colored minute markers are signalling the 8 days of the Feast of Tabernacles. The minute hand is pointing to the "2." The 10th minute marker (which isn't red) = the "2" on the time piece. This is signalling the 10th day of the 10 days of Darkness (if I'm correct). Thus the first red marker signals the start of the Feast of Tabernacles, as well as the start of the 10 days of Darkness. And the minute hand is pointing to the end of these 10 days of Darkness (October 26), being 2 days after the Feast of Tabernacles has ended (October 24).
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It looks like the 10 days of darkness start tonight at 7:00 PM (Pacific Time).
 

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This news is a LONG-TIME COMING!!! I WOKEUP to the Beltway Battles and the Sinister Obama and HRC Administration that confirmed to me that there was a DIABOLIC DEEP AGENDA - I didn't understand the concept of the broader Global DEEP STATE at that time; BUT I knew that we were AT WAR with EVIL DOERS on the Left with an EVIL LYING and CHEATING AGENDA for CONTROL with control of the MSM and the inner workings of Washington and the Pentagon!!!..
SGT Report: Extortion 17: High Crimes & Murder -- Nick Noe (Video)
Tuesday, October 15, 2024 1:41

Whistleblower Nicholas Noe returns to SGT Report to discuss the treason of Hillary Clinton and Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama with Extortion 17 and the premeditated murder of Seal Team 6 and the stand down which allowed for the killings of 4 American men in Benghazi, Libya.
It appears that HRC will be placed under arrest either on October 30 or November 2.
 

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So let's make sure everyone understands because we are told repeatedly that the technology we have today the Government and the military had 20-25 years ago.

This makes sense, AI is supposed to be the most dangerous invention ever, capable of destroying mankind so surely something like that the military would make sure they had and were well ahead of the general public.

So then we now have AI that is scoring well above average on a variety of tests. One year ago it was operating at the level of a very smart HS graduate. Now it is operating at the level of a very smart college graduate/graduate student. By next June it is reasonable to think no college graduate will go to a white collar job. The AI will be performing better, cheaper, faster and improving better than any college graduate would and would have far less liability than a college graduate. We aren't simply talking about software, they also have robots that are capable of performing better than 50% of the blue collar workers right now and again by next June perhaps better than 80%.

But that is not my point. My point is that 20-25 years ago the military had this. If you believe in coincidences then you will love the fact that 911 just happened to take place causing the US government to give our military a blank check to build a brand new military. We know they spent a whole lot of money on drones and robots. We now know that humans controlling these remotely create the data needed to train the AI to fly them and control them. What we are seeing today the US military could see in 2001 and they invested heavily in this technology. They have super soldiers. They have AI. They have drones that fly themselves. Robots that operate themselves.

Today we are at a point where we could see the AI and robots replacing 80-90% of all workers in the next 5-10 years. That is where the military was in 2001! Do you think it is an accident that now we have all these wars?

If all these people all over the world will be put out of jobs (look at what the 3d printer did to cheap manufacturing in Asia) what are you going to do with them all? AI and robots can do things faster, cheaper and more efficiently. However, they don't pay tax, they don't buy houses, they don't buy cars. The entire world's economy is about to collapse. People do not like to be jobless, purposeless, and powerless. So then you have to manufacture WW3 to kill them all off. You need to lay the ground work for a massive plague to kill them all off. The vaccine is giving 2 billion people AIDS (immune deficiency) setting them up for this coming plague.

Now consider what we already have in place as of October 2, 2024. The UN has passed the Pact for the Future. This gives the UN the authority to completely control the internet and censor whatever they deem as misinformation or disinformation. Elon Musk has put starlink into space so that we can have one world internet that covers the entire earth, a platform that all sites will need to move to, and by so doing will mean that the UN has complete control of them the same way Facebook was censoring people on their platform. They already have AI operating better than most humans and improving exponentially. It is very likely that in one year AI will be operating better than 99% of humans, but even with the ones that can still compete in some area the AI will be faster. AI is being trained in a whole host of jobs.

So then they have already laid the groundwork where no one would be surprised if there were a black swan event destroying the US. Imagine the war with Russia and Iran heats up, some major strike hits them and they in turn hit us. This attack will completely wipe out the power grid in the US, so then they simply switch to Starlink and now they have the entire world captive to their platform.

They already have the brain chips that millions of people are asking to get because it promises to help people with a variety of disabilities (hearing, sight, paralyzed, etc). It is very reasonable that more people will be incentivized because it will be the only way to get a job if you get a chip. These chips control your thoughts. They can delete thoughts. They can give you whatever dreams you want.

All of this is ready to go, they are simply waiting for the massive Black Swan event that will cause the chaos which they will then have the "cure" for.
So you don't think God is going to put an end to all this evil that you perceive? By the way, it looks like the vaccine is the vehicle for delivering the chip. It's got nanotech that is an AI: combination of graphene oxide (microscopic layer cut from graphite that has bizarre characteristics) and gold particles. This chip would be activated by 5G towers (which would kill many also (this happened in Wuhan, China). Q AKA Army Intelligence and fellow light warriors have shut down/prevented/will prevent the activation/construction of 5G towers.

As for the Great Black Swan event, that will be the CIA/Mossad's destruction of Damascus Syria in late November (Operation: Sword of Armenia)--Armenia has moved away from Russia and towards NATO. The annihilation of Damascus will be the fulfillment of the prophecy in the book of Isaiah concerning Damascus. The Great Awakening.
 

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So you don't think God is going to put an end to all this evil that you perceive?
Of course He is, first He will bind the Strong man, then He will plunder His house, and then He will raise the house to the ground, turn it into a dunghill and slay all those who rebelled against Him.

By the way, it looks like the vaccine is the vehicle for delivering the chip. It's got nanotech that is an AI: combination of graphene oxide (microscopic layer cut from graphite that has bizarre characteristics) and gold particles. This chip would be activated by 5G towers (which would kill many also (this happened in Wuhan, China). Q AKA Army Intelligence and fellow light warriors have shut down/prevented/will prevent the activation/construction of 5G towers.

As for the Great Black Swan event, that will be the CIA/Mossad's destruction of Damascus Syria in late November (Operation: Sword of Armenia)--Armenia has moved away from Russia and towards NATO. The annihilation of Damascus will be the fulfillment of the prophecy in the book of Isaiah concerning Damascus. The Great Awakening.
Well I guess we disagree on timing. I believe the Black Swan event comes before the election, the destruction of Damascus coincides with the rapture. They already have everything in place for the UN government to take over due to "an emergency".
 

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Of course He is, first He will bind the Strong man, then He will plunder His house, and then He will raise the house to the ground, turn it into a dunghill and slay all those who rebelled against Him.


Well I guess we disagree on timing. I believe the Black Swan event comes before the election, the destruction of Damascus coincides with the rapture. They already have everything in place for the UN government to take over due to "an emergency".
Oh, there's going to be a black swan event before the election alright. I do believe that this black swan event will start very very very soon. And as I said, then comes the Great Black Swan event. And I posit that the Rapture is a Zionist sleight-of-hand.
 

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Oh, there's going to be a black swan event before the election alright. I do believe that this black swan event will start very very very soon. And as I said, then comes the Great Black Swan event. And I posit that the Rapture is a Zionist sleight-of-hand.
Well at least you are up front and clear about your "predictions". Time will tell which of us is correct.

I guess you should start referring to your theory as "a family of Black Swans".
 

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1 Kings 19:15 The Lord said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. 18 Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and when Elisha saw it he got a double portion of the spirit. Many interpret this as the rapture. Elijah represents those who are to be raptured prior to the "hour of trial" mentioned in Revelation. Elisha are the remnant saints led by the two witnesses which will have the double portion of the spirit of the raptured saints. Jehu would refer to Trump who will deal with Jezebel (HRC, Epstein, Diddy, Deep State), Hazael is the Antichrist who will no longer be restrained once the saints are raptured. The seven thousand that have been reserved are those who are raptured and they may represent the 144,000 who will be raptured saints like Angels helping the saints to stand against the Antichrist.

The reference to the "Desert of Damascus" indicates that Damascus has become a ruinous heap prior to these ones being anointed, and will take place at the time of the rapture.
 

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1 Kings 19:15 The Lord said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. 18 Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and when Elisha saw it he got a double portion of the spirit. Many interpret this as the rapture. Elijah represents those who are to be raptured prior to the "hour of trial" mentioned in Revelation. Elisha are the remnant saints led by the two witnesses which will have the double portion of the spirit of the raptured saints. Jehu would refer to Trump who will deal with Jezebel (HRC, Epstein, Diddy, Deep State), Hazael is the Antichrist who will no longer be restrained once the saints are raptured. The seven thousand that have been reserved are those who are raptured and they may represent the 144,000 who will be raptured saints like Angels helping the saints to stand against the Antichrist.

The reference to the "Desert of Damascus" indicates that Damascus has become a ruinous heap prior to these ones being anointed, and will take place at the time of the rapture.
That verse you quoted is not saying that Damascus became a ruinous heap. Hazael was king in Damascus. And at the time, the land in which the city was located was known as Aram. Furthermore, the "desert" has to be speaking of that land around Damascus (Aram) as a desert or "wildernes," (as rendered in the KJV). Also, there is no extra biblical evidence indicating that Damascus was ever destroyed in the past.
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1 Kings 19:15 The Lord said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. 18 Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and when Elisha saw it he got a double portion of the spirit. Many interpret this as the rapture. Elijah represents those who are to be raptured prior to the "hour of trial" mentioned in Revelation. Elisha are the remnant saints led by the two witnesses which will have the double portion of the spirit of the raptured saints. Jehu would refer to Trump who will deal with Jezebel (HRC, Epstein, Diddy, Deep State), Hazael is the Antichrist who will no longer be restrained once the saints are raptured. The seven thousand that have been reserved are those who are raptured and they may represent the 144,000 who will be raptured saints like Angels helping the saints to stand against the Antichrist.

The reference to the "Desert of Damascus" indicates that Damascus has become a ruinous heap prior to these ones being anointed, and will take place at the time of the rapture.
Okay, I think I see what you're saying. You're applying that verse in 1 Kings to a future event. However, reading "Desert of Damascus" in its context indicates a past event. Again, "Desert of Damascus" is speaking of the land surrounding Damascus (Aram) as being a desert or "wilderness" (KJV).
 

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1 Kings 19:15 The Lord said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. 18 Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”

Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and when Elisha saw it he got a double portion of the spirit. Many interpret this as the rapture. Elijah represents those who are to be raptured prior to the "hour of trial" mentioned in Revelation. Elisha are the remnant saints led by the two witnesses which will have the double portion of the spirit of the raptured saints. Jehu would refer to Trump who will deal with Jezebel (HRC, Epstein, Diddy, Deep State), Hazael is the Antichrist who will no longer be restrained once the saints are raptured. The seven thousand that have been reserved are those who are raptured and they may represent the 144,000 who will be raptured saints like Angels helping the saints to stand against the Antichrist.

The reference to the "Desert of Damascus" indicates that Damascus has become a ruinous heap prior to these ones being anointed, and will take place at the time of the rapture.
If Elijah being taken up is a sign of the rapture, then Elisha was left behind. Elijah indicating the rapture is what I would call a super extreme hypothesis. In other words, reading into Scripture something that isn't there.
 

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Okay, I think I see what you're saying. You're applying that verse in 1 Kings to a future event. However, reading "Desert of Damascus" in its context indicates a past event. Again, "Desert of Damascus" is speaking of the land surrounding Damascus (Aram) as being a desert or "wilderness" (KJV).
Jeremiah had many prophecies that were fulfilled. They were not put into the Bible. The prophecies of Jeremiah that were put into the Bible were considered prophecies that had yet to be fulfilled.

Damascus is the oldest continually inhabited city on earth, so at no time was it ever a ruinous heap. The prophecy of it becoming a ruinous heap in Isaiah 17 has yet to be fulfilled, and the word of God is a two edged sword, so even if there was a time when Damascus could be described as a desert, that was not the fulfillment, only a preview.
 

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If Elijah being taken up is a sign of the rapture, then Elisha was left behind. Elijah indicating the rapture is what I would call a super extreme hypothesis. In other words, reading into Scripture something that isn't there.
And I suppose Enoch being translated is also a super extreme hypothesis, and Noah entering the ark with the seven when Methuselah dies being a type of the left behind going through the tribulation as super extreme and the picture of Lot fleeing from Sodom as it is destroyed by fire and becoming a refugee just like Revelation 12 describes the woman fleeing into the wilderness after the manchild is caught up is super extreme example.