Global warming or upcoming ice age

[Fundaamental]

Geologists have identified more than 5,000 active underwater volcanoes, which account for more than 75% of the total lava that erupts every year. Most of these are located along the mid-ocean ridges, where the Earth's tectonic plates are spreading apart.

A lot are deep underwater and difficult to study.

So who knows what extent this could cause to global warming 😊

Maybe there finely balanced By God

 

[Cameron143]

I don't quite know how the statistics are worked out this moment,

Just thought I would add it to discussion

Perhaps lung samples determine the statistics

I'm interested to know how the figure was arrived at because much of the fervor and iminancy related to climate change is simply found to be bogus under scrutiny.

 

[Cameron143]

I will say one thing tho statistics that come from the uk houses of parliament are normally approved by medical science

Now if only we could trust the medical science. I wonder why anyone would question that.

 

[Fundaamental]

I'm interested to know how the figure was arrived at because much of the fervor and iminancy related to climate change is simply found to be bogus under scrutiny.

from the report it suggests he a leading environment scientist who has got his figures from the UK houses of parliament.

The houses of parliament are only governed to disclose confirmed figures from post mortem examinations, I would imagine

 

[Cameron143]

from the report it suggests he a leading environment scientist who has got his figures from the UK houses of parliament.

The houses of parliament are only governed to disclose confirmed figures from post mortem examinations, I would imagine

I appreciate the follow-up. Did it say what the criteria for pollution death is?
And when did death by pollution first begin to be recorded?

 

[Fundaamental]

I appreciate the follow-up. Did it say what the criteria for pollution death is?

no but I do know a little about none smokers who had deposits on there lungs that come from burned wood that hasn't dried out but yet they never had wood burners.

The government has banned undried wood being burned.

And blocked wood being burned all together in one or two areas

There's a big thing in the UK now, because of people burning wood that hasn't dried out.

There's a chemical that is released from such wood that builds up on the lungs and then they die of cancer.

So perhaps it's the same for diesel or petrol particles.

Which is why he was calling for more trees to be planted, because they soak it up.

 

[Cameron143]

no but I do know a little about none smokers who had deposits on there lungs that come from burned wood that hasn't dried out but yet they never had wood burners.

The government has banned undried wood being burned.

And blocked wood being burned all together in one or two areas

There's a big thing in the UK now, because of people burning wood that hasn't dried out.

There's a chemical that is released from such wood that builds up on the lungs and then they die of cancer.

So perhaps it's the same for diesel or petrol particles.

Which is why he was calling for more trees to be planted, because they soak it up.

So how does that tie into climate change. That can be solved by changing the environment, not the climate.

 

[Fundaamental]

So how does that tie into climate change. That can be solved by changing the environment, not the climate.

Good question

An ever increasing population emitting fumes with not enough trees to soak up the pollution, is one of the highest ranking complaints by environmental scientists.

But can this be attributed to climate change as the biggest reason, maybe not.

Maybe it's a combination of factors that science hasn't fully unlocked yet.

I personaly see extra emissions of methane gas that may trigger an ice age. Both from earth and man's ever increasing population.

If your interested to know

Methane gas reflects blue light but absorbs red light from the sun

Strangely enough Neptune an ice giant plannet hottest part of the plannet is the south pole.

 

[Cameron143]

Good question

An ever increasing population emitting fumes with not enough trees to soak up the pollution, is one of the highest ranking complaints by environmental scientists.

But can this be attributed to climate change as the biggest reason, maybe not.

Maybe it's a combination of factors that science hasn't fully unlocked yet.

I personaly see extra emissions of methane gas that may trigger an ice age. Both from earth and man's ever increasing population.

If your interested to know

Methane gas reflects blue light but absorbs red light from the sun

Strangely enough Neptune an ice giant plannet hottest part of the plannet is the south pole.

The problem with governments lying so much is that it makes it incredibly hard to know what to believe. But methane is a trace gas in the atmosphere and this whole cow farts causing any appreciable difference is highly suspect.
We've already been told that carbon dioxide is pollution. I personally think it's just more hoax.
Another thing...weather changes frequently and climate slowly excluding something cataclysmic. The very idea of climate emergency and iminancy is contradictory.

 

[ZNP]

The problem with governments lying so much is that it makes it incredibly hard to know what to believe. But methane is a trace gas in the atmosphere and this whole cow farts causing any appreciable difference is highly suspect.
We've already been told that carbon dioxide is pollution. I personally think it's just more hoax.
Another thing...weather changes frequently and climate slowly excluding something cataclysmic. The very idea of climate emergency and iminancy is contradictory.

It is a fulfillment of prophecy, it is in Jonah. They accused the cows of being sinners.

 

[Fundaamental]

The problem with governments lying so much is that it makes it incredibly hard to know what to believe. But methane is a trace gas in the atmosphere and this whole cow farts causing any appreciable difference is highly suspect.
We've already been told that carbon dioxide is pollution. I personally think it's just more hoax.
Another thing...weather changes frequently and climate slowly excluding something cataclysmic. The very idea of climate emergency and iminancy is contradictory.

lol

I forgot to mention Neptune's main atmosphere is methane and it's an ice giant..

There are no cows there that I know of lol.

But methane comes from many sources on earth.

It gets traps in permafrost and is a product of organic matter which also gets trapped in ice.

Then there's huge refuge landfill rubbish sites.

Considered a huge problem at the moment

Then of course animal and human population.

It's thought at l
humans who eat meat contribute to methane.

Then of cause the cows lol.

But then of course the methane in the earth. Under sea beds f
Probably also organic matter build up.

 

[Magenta]

Death certificates list pollution as cause of death? And 64,000?
How exactly does one die by pollution?

A 9-year-old boy died last week in British Columbia after having an asthma attack during the
ongoing wildfires in Canada... The B.C. Coroner's bulletin also said that smoke from wildfires
is especially dangerous for children, older people and those with heart and lung conditions.

 

[Cameron143]

lol

I forgot to mention Neptune's main atmosphere is methane and it's an ice giant..

There are no cows there that I know of lol.

But methane comes from many sources on earth.

It gets traps in permafrost and is a product of organic matter which also gets trapped in ice.

Then there's huge refuge landfill rubbish sites.

Considered a huge problem at the moment

Then of course animal and human population.

It's thought at l
humans who eat meat contribute to methane.

Then of cause the cows lol.

But then of course the methane in the earth. Under sea beds f
Probably also organic matter build up.

You are correct that there are multiple sources of methane. And it would add credibility to any climate argument to point them out. But I've never heard a climate alarmist make such a case. Their arguments are always human and livestock reduction.

 

[Cameron143]

A 9-year-old boy died last week in British Columbia after having an asthma attack during the
ongoing wildfires in Canada... The B.C. Coroner's bulletin also said that smoke from wildfires
is especially dangerous for children, older people and those with heart and lung conditions.

Such deaths are tragic. But fires aren't being set by climate change. They are many times deliberate or, more commonly, the result of poor land management.

 

[Fundaamental]

You are correct that there are multiple sources of methane. And it would add credibility to any climate argument to point them out. But I've never heard a climate alarmist make such a case. Their arguments are always human and livestock reduction.

AHH I see where your coming from now 😊

It's just trees can't convert methane to oxergen.

They can with other gasses.

Besides I know of many science climate change reports that contribute natural methane release.

Did you watch the vid earlier in the thread

 

[Magenta]

Such deaths are tragic. But fires aren't being set by climate change. They are
many times deliberate or, more commonly, the result of poor land management.

You asked how pollution causes death. I gave an example. Climate conditions do also contribute to
an overall increase in natural disasters. The number of fires up here in Canada has increased over the
years with global temperature records breaking; fires and floods are also raging around the world.

There are currently 908 active fires burning in Canada, and 576 of those are classified as “out of control.”

On June 27, 2023, Canada surpassed the record set in 1989 for total area burned in one season. source

 

[Cameron143]

AHH I see where your coming from now 😊

It's just trees can't convert methane to oxergen.

They can with other gasses.

Besides I know of many science climate change reports that contribute natural methane release.

Did you watch the vid earlier in the thread

I did not watch and probably won't. My point on methane is just that it is a trace gas. It is a small percentage of a percent. It cannot cause a major or probably not even a perceptible difference in climate.
Try this experiment. The next time you wash dishes, add an extra drop of detergent and let me know what the difference in your perception is.

 

[Cameron143]

You asked how pollution causes death. I gave an example. Climate conditions do also contribute to
an overall increase in natural disasters. The number of fires up here in Canada has increased over the
years with global temperature records breaking; fires and floods are also raging around the world.

There are currently 908 active fires burning in Canada, and 576 of those are classified as “out of control.”

On June 27, 2023, Canada surpassed the record set in 1989 for total area burned in one season. source

I see and thanks. But how many of these fires are arson and how many could have been contained if a modicum of fire prevention measures were taken?
Environmentalists have blocked land management techniques the damage caused by these fires. Simply clearing land and creating fire breaks could make most fires manageable. But rabid environmentalists block real efforts at true conservation.
There is plenty of blame to be had. I just wish people would get to the true source.

 

[Fundaamental]

I did not watch and probably won't. My point on methane is just that it is a trace gas. It is a small percentage of a percent. It cannot cause a major or probably not even a perceptible difference in climate.
Try this experiment. The next time you wash dishes, add an extra drop of detergent and let me know what the difference in your perception is.

the problem is friend the earths atmosphere is perfectly balanced of a mixture of gasses, oxergen methane nitrogen etc.

Planets can get so saturated that they actually leak gas into space out through there atmosphere.

If one gas becomes to dominant then you can get severe issues

The biggest threat is science doesn't know just how bad things will get by small increased global temps, at this stage our best hope is a new ice age. 😊

Watch this 4 min vid but with understanding huge methane release causes another Ice age

 

[Cameron143]

the problem is friend the earths atmosphere is perfectly balanced of a mixture of gasses, oxergen methane nitrogen etc.

Planets can get so saturated that they actually leak gas into space out through there atmosphere.

If one gas becomes to dominant then you can get severe issues

The biggest threat is science doesn't know just how bad things will get by small increased global temps, at this stage our best hope is a new ice age. 😊

Watch this 4 min vid but with understanding huge methane release causes another Ice age

I don't believe the earth's atmosphere is this dainty, frail veil surrounding the earth. The atmosphere, like the oceans are a large part of God's providential care for the earth and both entities are great cleansers and aid in maintaining the equilibrium of the earth's various cycles.
So I guess where we Fundaamentally disagree is in the character and nature of the earth itself.