Global warming or upcoming ice age

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,341
6,623
113
#62

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#63
No, the land of milk and honey refers to Israel, I want to know where Isreal is? This Is Real place you are referring to.
are you really going to persist with where Isreal is ?.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,341
6,623
113
#64
are you really going to persist with where Isreal is ?.
As long as you keep saying Isreal instead of Israel, yes. El means God, Israel means prince of God, Isreal is just something that is easy to make fun of.
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#65
As long as you keep saying Isreal instead of Israel, yes. El means God, Israel means prince of God, Isreal is just something that is easy to make fun of.
ah ok typo error you had me worried there 🙂
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

Well-known member
Apr 1, 2023
974
596
93
#66
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22991992/uk-weather-exact-date-temperatures-plummet/

Blessings, 😊

In the UK last year throughout most of the summer we had no rain temperatures in the low to mid 30s and temperatures exceeded 40c for the first time in the UK, causing some land fires,

This year however highest temperature as being 30 Celsius in the UK with lots of rain throughout the summer and now we're seeing temperatures plummet to as low as eight Celsius this week.

The UK is currently in the height of summer.
From what I have read when the main stream media started their rant about the global warming is the fact thet the top experts say we are in a small phase of global cooling that would last about 75 years, apparently it is linked a solar activity cycle that is not yet well understood.

I see too in Quebec a trend towards cooling, when i was younger we had very warm summer that started early now, summer starts 2 to 3 weeks later and winter is definitely longer, I have over the years talked to the olderst of my uncles and ants and grand parents and they say the same thing.

Blessings.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

Well-known member
Apr 1, 2023
974
596
93
#67
There is a lot of misinformation and lack of understanding of the term "global warming," which is unfortunate, and perplexing, too, that some make claims that seem to amount to them believing man has no deleterious effect on our environment and/or ecology. Denying that man has an effect on our environment seems foolish. The warming that is happening is at the poles, where the ice caps are experiencing phenomenal shrinkage, glaciers are retreating and disappearing at remarkable speeds, and the degradation of Greenland's permafrost continues. These changes affect ocean currents, which in turn affect our climate.

I watched a documentary on the life of David Attenborough a while ago. He has spent the majority of his life exploring the natural wonders of our world, documenting its beauty and diversity, as well as changes over time. It is called David Attenborough: A Life on Our Planet, and is "a powerful first-hand account of humanity's impact on nature and a message of hope for future generations." David Attenborough is now into his nineties, and started his explorations of the natural world while quite young. Over the passage of time depicted, which is many decades, a counter shows the population growth alongside the shrinking of wildlife (both flora and fauna) and the increase of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. They increase in lockstep. The following graph is not from the movie, but from here. The second is from the UN a few years ago.



David Attenborough also narrated (and wonderfully so) a very recent spectacularly photographed eight episode documentary on our planet called Our Planet, which was four years in the making. It has been made available on youtube; I would highly recommend it to any and all :) Here is a sample episode :)

Hi Magenta, so y0u know Attenborough is a globalist promoting a reduction in the world's population. Check this info for yourself, also the atmosphere contains only 0.04% CO2. Many government agencies use an index for atmospheric gases that reflects the potential atmospheric global warmig for gases, CO2 is the lowet in the list with an index of 1, without calculating anything, we see that it is it is not possible that CO2 is responsible for the climate change, now try to find water vapour's atmospheric concentration and it's global warming potential index....

I do agree however that human activity is destructive. Pollution is rampant and getting worse, industrialization in the name of profit is the main culprit.

Blessings.
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#69
From what I have read when the main stream media started their rant about the global warming is the fact thet the top experts say we are in a small phase of global cooling that would last about 75 years, apparently it is linked a solar activity cycle that is not yet well understood.

I see too in Quebec a trend towards cooling, when i was younger we had very warm summer that started early now, summer starts 2 to 3 weeks later and winter is definitely longer, I have over the years talked to the olderst of my uncles and ants and grand parents and they say the same thing.

Blessings.
maybe read the whole thread, watch all the videos.

Global warming is pointing in the direction of a naturally phenomenon, but can be speeded up by man made activity, extra methane gas.

But besides the political and science debates of global warming.

There Is the overwhelming evidence of el nino strengthening from warmer sea temperatures.

Which means warmer air hitting colder air, resulting in more rain now being experience in many regions in many parts of the northern hemisphere from what was severe drought last year.



if el nino strengthens in winter from warmer sea temps in the south and el nino continues to strengthen you could have a whole northern hemisphere plunged into an ice age.

From temps reaching 21 Celsius in February. You would get a huge increase in moisture content. As warmer air hits colder air

It then spreads at an alarming rate.

As the winter ends the effect of elnino and la nino would intensify.

you would get a lot more moisture content of colder air hitting warmer air further south.

From a northern hemisphere crossing the boundary.
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#70
World's top climate scientists told to 'cover up' the fact that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen for the last 15 years


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-fact-Earths-temperature-risen-15-years.html
it doesn't included dramatic changes in temps rising and falling in certain regions,

It only included a an overall rise of temps since pre industrial records.
Which is something like 1.2 higher.

Which is a nonsense report. You can't calculate higher than normal temps in one region as an overall, because of rotational orbit.

Then there's the record ground temperatures

They can't fit that into air temperature. Which when you think about it is absurd.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

Well-known member
Apr 1, 2023
974
596
93
#71
it doesn't included dramatic changes in temps rising and falling in certain regions,

It only included a an overall rise of temps since pre industrial records.
Which is something like 1.2 higher.

Which is a nonsense report. You can't calculate higher than normal temps in one region as an overall, because of rotational orbit.

Then there's the record ground temperatures

They can't fit that into air temperature. Which when you think about it is absurd.
Agreed I do feel the climate is not normal, we see more extreme weather exacerbation, floods, ext... I think excess water vapour is the culprit but am not certain. the available data is hard to figure out.

Blessings.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
59,837
29,212
113
#72
The Arctic is warming four times faster than the rest of the planet, and this means that glaciers,
which sit on land, and sea ice, which floats on the ocean surface, are melting rapidly. Two-thirds
of Arctic Sea ice has disappeared since 1958 when it was first measured. Between 2000 and 2019,
the world’s glaciers lost 267 billion tons of ice each year. Himalayan glaciers are on a trajectory
to lose one-third of their ice by 2100, and Alpine glaciers are projected to lose half of theirs.


When the ice in permafrost melts, the ground becomes unstable and can slump, causing rock
and landslides, floods, and coastal erosion. The buckling earth can damage buildings, roads,
power lines, and other infrastructure. It is affecting many Indigenous communities that have
lived and depended on the stability of frozen permafrost for hundreds of years.


Because the Arctic has been covered by ice and permafrost for much of human history and was largely
inaccessible, it was an ideal place to dump chemicals, biohazards, and even radioactive materials.
The risks these materials pose in the light of thawing permafrost are poorly understood.


Radioactive waste from nuclear reactors and submarines, nuclear testing, and dumped nuclear waste
can be exposed by melting ice and thawing permafrost. Chemicals and pollutants, such as DDT and PCBs,
that were transported through the atmosphere and frozen in the permafrost, may also resurface. Heavy metal
mine waste resulting from decades of extensive mining in the Arctic is found in permafrost as well.
source
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#73
Agreed I do feel the climate is not normal, we see more extreme weather exacerbation, floods, ext... I think excess water vapour is the culprit but am not certain. the available data is hard to figure out.

Blessings.
The scientists basicaly can't declare there has only been a 1.2 degrees of temperature change since industrial level records.

Because the overall picture is far from the truth.

The major threat is what happens when the overall temps reach 1.5 degree change.

It may seem little or nothing to be concerned about.

But that 1.5 degree overall change won't include dramatics changes in certain regions at a certain times.

So this is why they can't paint the picture that way, as it would only deter people from making the changes needed.

The report your reading is skepticism, denying the truth.

There's a reason in my view why the switch to renewable energy is increasing at an alarming rate.

The major threat is warmer air hittin colder air, which causes moisture content,

I've more rain more snow.

So your in a northern hemisphere winter full of colder air at minus 2 all of sudden temps go up to 21 degrees and fall,
Then rise then fall etc.


THE uk is also expected to see tornadoes this winter.
blizzards lasting a month.
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#74
The Arctic is warming four times faster than the rest of the planet, and this means that glaciers,
which sit on land, and sea ice, which floats on the ocean surface, are melting rapidly. Two-thirds
of Arctic Sea ice has disappeared since 1958 when it was first measured. Between 2000 and 2019,
the world’s glaciers lost 267 billion tons of ice each year. Himalayan glaciers are on a trajectory
to lose one-third of their ice by 2100, and Alpine glaciers are projected to lose half of theirs.


When the ice in permafrost melts, the ground becomes unstable and can slump, causing rock
and landslides, floods, and coastal erosion. The buckling earth can damage buildings, roads,
power lines, and other infrastructure. It is affecting many Indigenous communities that have
lived and depended on the stability of frozen permafrost for hundreds of years.


Because the Arctic has been covered by ice and permafrost for much of human history and was largely
inaccessible, it was an ideal place to dump chemicals, biohazards, and even radioactive materials.
The risks these materials pose in the light of thawing permafrost are poorly understood.


Radioactive waste from nuclear reactors and submarines, nuclear testing, and dumped nuclear waste
can be exposed by melting ice and thawing permafrost. Chemicals and pollutants, such as DDT and PCBs,
that were transported through the atmosphere and frozen in the permafrost, may also resurface. Heavy metal
mine waste resulting from decades of extensive mining in the Arctic is found in permafrost as well.
source
agreed but what happens when ground that has been covered in ice melts

You get huge increase of methane gases releasing from that land that has been trapped.

You go back into an ice age soon enough.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

Well-known member
Apr 1, 2023
974
596
93
#75
We must not forget that weather doom prophets like Al gore were wrong so as many others;

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-y...c-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

However today, there is a lot of false information for and against climate change. I have read many articles from top climatologists in the recent past and they do not always agree, climate is a complicated thing and has many factors to be taken into account. To be honest I do not think we understand the climate well enough to see what is going on but pollution generated by man, mostly by industry is certainly in part responsible of the problem.

Blessings
 

proutled

Active member
May 9, 2023
558
217
43
texas
#76
agreed but what happens when ground that has been covered in ice melts

You get huge increase of methane gases releasing from that land that has been trapped.

You go back into an ice age soon enough.
we wont be here for that, we will be in heaven, remember the rapture,
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#78
We must not forget that weather doom prophets like Al gore were wrong so as many others;

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-y...c-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

However today, there is a lot of false information for and against climate change. I have read many articles from top climatologists in the recent past and they do not always agree, climate is a complicated thing and has many factors to be taken into account. To be honest I do not think we understand the climate well enough to see what is going on but pollution generated by man, mostly by industry is certainly in part responsible of the problem.

Blessings
Ice caps melting all over the world is something science don't know what will happen next.

But we know huge amount of methane gases are released from frozen beds that have thawed.

We also know frozen ice plannet giants in space main atmosphere is methane Gas.
 

proutled

Active member
May 9, 2023
558
217
43
texas
#79
hey fundaamenta every thing is going to work out , remember keep the faith, and you must put your focus on Jesus, not the world, and stay in the word, you have a spirit of power, love, and peace, and of a sound mind, don't fear,
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
#80
hey fundamentel every thing is going to work out , remember keep the faith, and you must put your focus on Jesus, not the world, and stay in the word, you have a spirit of power, love, and peace, and of a sound mind, don't fear,
Again that's your tongue speaking, and not your sub conscience.

Do you think I'm panicking because you can dismiss fear.

What your suggesting is this discussion is only worthy of turning a blind eye,