FLAT EARTH

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The calculators are right.

How hard is it to visualize that within a sphere the farther you look forward, the more that the earth drops????

Why is it so hard to understand the simple geometry of a sphere?


That pic is clearly a ball because of the light and shadow effect that emphasize that it is a ball, plus its a basket BALL.

Granted, it is projected on a flat screen... So your point is Irrelevant.
the earth doesn't drop, it is a sphere.

when you look at the horizon it does look flat it is a mirage, because your mind doesn't have all the info to view it as it is, that can only be done from space.

it is not hard to understand the simple geometry of a sphere when you can see the whole thing, take a basketball and place it on your back porch or where ever you can back away from the ball a long ways,

up close to the basketball you can easily see and know it is a sphere, now start walking away from the sphere ball, after awhile you won't be able to comprehend visually that the basketball is a sphere, you may know it in your mind but you won't be able to see it like if your up close to it.

back away from it far enough and the only thing you will see is a circle not even a round circle at a far distance.

the human eyes are continuously adjusting to what you see, and it all depends on the information you can see and visually calculate the height width and circumference of the object no matter what it is.
 
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You do the same, Please show me an unedited, raw photo of the planet earth from space.

Anything without CGI will do.
there are many from the Apollo missions, but of coarse your going to say it's not real, no CGI that early.

 
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Rather real or not, I posted mine, now let me see your photo of a flat circle earth?
 

Redeemed2015

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Italian is the only I have found so far that says "Globo"

In any other language the word of choice is circle.

Look at the french, spanish, or german bibles.
Alright let's look at them.
Spanish: "El está asentado sobre el globo de la tierra, cuyos moradores son como langostas: él extiende los cielos como una cortina, tiéndelos como una tienda para morar:"

French: "C'est lui qui est assis au-dessus du globe de la terre, et à qui ses habitants sont comme des sauterelles; c'est lui qui étend les cieux comme un voile, il les a même étendus comme une tente pour y habiter."

German: "Er sitzt über dem Kreis der Erde; und die darauf wohnen, sind wie Heuschrecken. Der den Himmel ausdehnet wie ein dünn Fell und breitet sie aus wie eine Hütte, da man innen wohnet;"

Hebrew:
haYoshëv al-khug hahretz w'yosh'veyha Kachaghviym haNoh-eh kha-Doq shahmayim waYim'Tachim Kaohel lashavet

Globo, Globe, Kreis, Khug all LITERALLY MEAN "Sphere"/"ball"

Keep in mind that Italy has been under catholic rule for as long as we can remember and we all know what the Vatican is good at.....


lying, cheating, lusting, deceiving... etc...
You aren't describing the Vatican, you are describing mankind.


Now, I've cited verses in all the languages you listed and taken the liberty of highlighting the words in question, all of which LITERALLY mean "sphere". Which, in any translation that uses the word "circle" it is clear it was poor scholarship that lead to that conclusion. As in EVERY Hebrew text containing Isaiah, usually in the collected Ketuvi'im, the word is "khug", translated directly into English as "sphere". It's not even up for debate. It is the LITERAL meaning of the word.
 

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1. Only few people know what is on the edge and those people are part of government entities and the elite.

2. Any city on the southernmost tip of a continuous continent are some of the furthermost cities.

3. The edge is said to be an ice wall that holds all the waters in, sort of like the edge of a plate. (There is an icewall and many photos exist)

4. Just so you get an idea, the water between the southernmost edges of any continent and the ice wall is much farther than you can imagine, so getting to the edge is not so easy.

5. No body has the money, equipment, and man power to pull off such an expedition at a civilian level.

6. The Zillionaire elites that have the money already know that the earth is flat.



THE DISTANCE TO THE EDGE VARIES DEPENDING ON WHAT CONTINENT YOU ARE ON.

Also, Can you prove the world is a globe without using NASA, Textbooks, TV or any 3rd party source?

I have just proved the flatness of the earth using simple math and real life observations.

Ya'll just keep playing the "mainstream info" card.
The edge is 'said' to be an ice wall? I have never seen a picture of the edge and what is beyond the so-called ice wall. Getting to the edge is 'not to easy'? What' that supposed to mean? Are you saying that no one has actually been to the edge? If this is true than how is it that there are photos of the edge? Nobody has the money to fund such an expedition? It's only a few thousand miles away, how hard can that be. It's just like I said, no proof, just lame excuses about lack of documentation.

What's the distance from one edge to the other?
 

Dino246

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That is absolutely no excuse to believe the moon landing or ISS footage is authentic. You just don't look into it objectively.

I've told you, on the flat earth the sun's path varies throughout the year. It's all possible, it's also possible the sun does not appear where you say it does. The only evidence you provide is a picture from google earth with absolutely no time-stamp or date of reference. You provide weak and incredible evidence and expect strong responses to it. Provide me a credible source and I'll look further into it for you.
I did provide you with a credible source. You responded with the in-credible explanation of a highly-variable solar path, for which you were given a smackdown from a fellow flat-earther. The time stamp and date of reference are completely irrelevant to the pictures I provided, because the location and sun angle make the photo impossible on the north-pole-centric flat earth.

So, instead of giving me the typical run-around, how about answering the question. How is it possible?
 
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I did provide you with a credible source. You responded with the in-credible explanation of a highly-variable solar path, for which you were given a smackdown from a fellow flat-earther. The time stamp and date of reference are completely irrelevant to the pictures I provided, because the location and sun angle make the photo impossible on the north-pole-centric flat earth.

So, instead of giving me the typical run-around, how about answering the question. How is it possible?
"smackdown"? You really have a fantastical recollection of events. A time and date and actual credible source/picture are very relevant.

Why can't you provide this if you are right? I won't take your challenge seriously until you provide me evidence that can be verified. The photo you provide is you looking at a photo and in your imagination saying "oh this proves I'm right", then you copy paste the link and sit back thinking your argument is solid. Then with this mentality you keep repeating yourself over and over. A photo that doesn't even show the sun without any time reference is a joke as "evidence".

I will give you the same answer I gave you then. The sun doesn't appear where you say it does, or it does and the sun on the flat earth reaches this point during that time of year. Either the flat earth maps are accurate, or there are not. The entire point of your challenge is meaningless to disproving a flat earth, I do not know why you choose this hill to die on.

Go look into the moon landing or ISS video footage, all it takes is an objective mind and you can see through the deception. This is why I don't give any of you much attention anymore, because I know you really don't investigate anything at all. You just "know" you are right, and want to argue and pat each other on the back to bolster yourselves.
 

MichaelOwen

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It's funny how these people say we don't investigate any of this at all, when some of us actually work in this field every day. I posted a new thread in the MISC forum, check it out and determine for yourself

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/160723-earth-globe.html

To claim it's all fake would mean that ME, along with thousands upon thousands of people around the WORLD are lying to you about the Earth. Now.....who are you going to believe? Astronauts and scientists and highly educated people who can tell you from personal, many who are Christian? Or are you going to believe non-credible flat earth person because they go against science and defy logic and reasoning under their own pretenses with virtually no evidence to back it up? Choose wisely.
 
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pckts

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It's funny how these people say we don't investigate any of this at all, when some of us actually work in this field every day. I posted a new thread in the MISC forum, check it out and determine for yourself

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/160723-earth-globe.html

To claim it's all fake would mean that ME, along with thousands upon thousands of people around the WORLD are lying to you about the Earth. Now.....who are you going to believe? Astronauts and scientists and highly educated people who can tell you from personal, many who are Christian? Or are you going to believe non-credible flat earth person because they go against science and defy logic and reasoning under their own pretenses with virtually no evidence to back it up? Choose wisely.
We don't think you are lying, we think you actually have no idea what it is you are doing in whatever your field is, and you are kept in the dark and used as simple labor by the people that do.
 

tanakh

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The only way I would be convinced that the Earth is flat would be for some Flat Earther to take me to the edge and let me look over it. If one of them are willing to pay for my travel expenses I would be delighted to accompany them to the nearest edge whenever they are free to travel there.
 
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Seedz

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the earth doesn't drop, it is a sphere.

when you look at the horizon it does look flat it is a mirage, because your mind doesn't have all the info to view it as it is, that can only be done from space.

it is not hard to understand the simple geometry of a sphere when you can see the whole thing, take a basketball and place it on your back porch or where ever you can back away from the ball a long ways,

up close to the basketball you can easily see and know it is a sphere, now start walking away from the sphere ball, after awhile you won't be able to comprehend visually that the basketball is a sphere, you may know it in your mind but you won't be able to see it like if your up close to it.

back away from it far enough and the only thing you will see is a circle not even a round circle at a far distance.

the human eyes are continuously adjusting to what you see, and it all depends on the information you can see and visually calculate the height width and circumference of the object no matter what it is.

Check out my last post on this other thread:

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/160723-earth-globe-2.html
 
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Alright let's look at them.
Spanish: "El está asentado sobre el globo de la tierra, cuyos moradores son como langostas: él extiende los cielos como una cortina, tiéndelos como una tienda para morar:"

French: "C'est lui qui est assis au-dessus du globe de la terre, et à qui ses habitants sont comme des sauterelles; c'est lui qui étend les cieux comme un voile, il les a même étendus comme une tente pour y habiter."

German: "Er sitzt über dem Kreis der Erde; und die darauf wohnen, sind wie Heuschrecken. Der den Himmel ausdehnet wie ein dünn Fell und breitet sie aus wie eine Hütte, da man innen wohnet;"

Hebrew:
haYoshëv al-khug hahretz w'yosh'veyha Kachaghviym haNoh-eh kha-Doq shahmayim waYim'Tachim Kaohel lashavet

Globo, Globe, Kreis, Khug all LITERALLY MEAN "Sphere"/"ball"



You aren't describing the Vatican, you are describing mankind.


Now, I've cited verses in all the languages you listed and taken the liberty of highlighting the words in question, all of which LITERALLY mean "sphere". Which, in any translation that uses the word "circle" it is clear it was poor scholarship that lead to that conclusion. As in EVERY Hebrew text containing Isaiah, usually in the collected Ketuvi'im, the word is "khug", translated directly into English as "sphere". It's not even up for debate. It is the LITERAL meaning of the word.

I can do the same with other variations of these translation to favor my point.

There are both word choices used.

BTW... Kreis means circle... Not globe.
 
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Seedz

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Everyone should, and if they did, the elite would not get away with their crap so easily as they do!!!


But we are all dumb sheep and we let them...

Perdition is their agenda.
 
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pckts

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You ask me to post a photo, and I ask you to post one too, but it appears you don't want too, because why?
If taking a photo of the globe earth is physically impossible or suppressed information, why would it be any more possible or unsuppressed on the flat earth?

You can't get high enough in the air to take the photo of it all, or you can but us honest folk don't have that kind of technology and clearance to do so.

The red bull jump guy had barely any earth underneath him, that's why we don't have a photo. The "flat" earth has much more surface area, and you have to get much higher to take a picture of it. Given our premise even NASA can't get that high because they do not "space travel" or have "satellite imagery".
 
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Everyone should, and if they did, the elite would not get away with their crap so easily as they do!!!


But we are all dumb sheep and we let them...

Perdition is their agenda.
how will a flat earth make the elite not obsess over power, greed and influence?
 

Odelschwanck

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I'm sad that a Christian forum has a 7 page Flat Earth thread. We were better than this once, weren't we?
 

Blain

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I'm sad that a Christian forum has a 7 page Flat Earth thread. We were better than this once, weren't we?
sadly no we were worse a lot worse lol the fact it's only 7 pages is a work of God XD