Gay Christian?

[homwardbound]

I'm gay and you totally just changed my entire perspective.

Lol jks you didn't. I am gay, I have a boyfriend, and I believe God loves me just as much as he loves you. Despite your bigoted flaws. And furthermore I believe a relationship with God is personal and not subject to other peoples views or beliefs. So in short is it immoral? No one is being hurt, so I think no. God has no beef with it.

So I am happy. If I was to take the bible literally I would have to put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7, should we ban football?

Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my farmer uncle, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?

My point is it is ridiculous to take a literal interoperation on these things. It important to live a good life, being gay doesn't hurt anyone so in my mind, in my life, with my boyfriend with my God it is okay.

I have no judgment of you, for God forgave me 100% and the whole world, so who am I to judge anyone else, it is one's personal relationship between God and you and you and you. For me it is not good for me, and even the reprobate minds in sex today between male and female is reprobate, as well no better than woman on woman or man on man, or there somes or whatever. It all is totally out of proportion and used for a means to relax after one, _____________________ does the deed and many women are abused in this, against their free will, even if married, and so please all, maybe it is time to love each other as God has done for us while we all are a wreck (sinners) no matter what
Thanks for listening, and maybe being humbled and seek the Mercy from God through the cross of his son, Jesus our propitiation for all sin, and please do not use this for an excuse to harm any others, as what condemnation does.

 

[homwardbound]

Christians are not to celebrate things that God hates.

God truthfully Jimmy is not a God of hate, God is a God of Mercy and Love to all, time to respond and stop being a God in creating hate, let others be and just love them to flesh death, on their own decisions

you know when your obedience is perfect then we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience? So is your obedience perfect Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[didymos]

It looks like you’re here to push an anti-Christian, homosexual agenda. Keep it up and you’ll have a short stay.

You are wrong


(he's gone already)

 

[homwardbound]

I have a question. Do you think being gay is ok if you love the same gender rather than lust them?

maybe find and read the parable about that man tat begged for Mercy got the Mercy and went out and did not give the Mercy to another that begged for it too. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What happened to this man, when The Lord found out? HMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mercy. please and give that same out thank you all

 

[homwardbound]

One can be a practicing homosexual (gay) Christian but one cannot be a practicing homosexual and be born of God. “Christian” is merely a label invented by men that anyone can wear. Being born of God is within the inner person who is not known by labels but by their fruit and homosexuality is not one of those fruits.

Nor any lust of this world either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Enow]

I am gay, I have a boyfriend, and I believe God loves me just as much as he loves you. Despite your bigoted flaws. And furthermore I believe a relationship with God is personal and not subject to other peoples views or beliefs. So in short is it immoral? No one is being hurt, so I think no. God has no beef with it.

My point is it is ridiculous to take a literal interoperation on these things. It important to live a good life, being gay doesn't hurt anyone so in my mind, in my life, with my boyfriend with my God it is okay.

God is not okay with it. God is not okay with fornicators either.

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. [SUP]16 [/SUP]What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [SUP]20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

You need to go before that throne of grace for help to repent before the Bridegroom comes or risk being ;eft behind from the pre tribulational rapture event to face the coming great tribulation.

Revelation 2:[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her intogreat tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil in our lives so that sin shall no longer have dominion over us.

1 John 3:[SUP]3 [/SUP]And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. [SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Romans 6:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Galatians 5:[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness (which is masturbation), lasciviousness ( which is sexual excessiveness or sex on the mind alot),[SUP]20 [/SUP]Idolatry ( which can be applied to pornography ), witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [SUP]21 [/SUP]Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. [SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [SUP]24 [/SUP]And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. [SUP]25 [/SUP]If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Romans 8:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

1 Corinthians 9:[SUP]24 [/SUP]Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. [SUP]25 [/SUP]And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [SUP]27 [/SUP]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

I trust Jesus Christ to do His work in me. So should you. Know your iniquity as being iniquity and ask Him to deliver you from it. He has done it for others that were slave to the flesh and could not see it in themselves to stop; He can do it for you.

John 6:[SUP]28 [/SUP]Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? [SUP]29 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

2 Timothy 4:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[homwardbound]

So than why if we take the bible literally do we not put to death everyone who works on the Sabbath
Exodus 35:2, and touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean,Leviticus 11:7 so than why do we let our children play football? Should they too repent?

For me after finding out how deep god not only loves me, yet all the world. I responded to that to learn from God truth that sets me free, and in seeing that and learning this, I personally seek all things from Above, where Christ is at with Father, being my and everyone's propitiation for any and all sins.
Learned this Love god's type best described in 1 Cor. 13:1-3 those verses showed me I can do those things and yet be barren still, which is what flesh is Barren from God.
Then seeing the 4-13 verses I became guilty, and saw my flesh never being able to attain that type of love, yet desired it.
Then God said through my son's death You are made perfect and ready to be born again a free gift from me (God) to you, and then I heard do you want this. I cried yes, please and by the operation of Father I was made alive in Father through Son, top love as he loves all, 1 Cor. 13:4-13, that no flesh can ever do, only the born again person from God can.
Love to everyone without condemnation. for no one can truly love without first seeing the Love of god back at the cross of Son

 

[jimmydiggs]

Clearly you have NO respect for other people's opinions. Maybe from now on you should refer to posts of anyone you don't agree with as 'garbage,' that will save you a lot of time.

You're a fallible human being, just like me, you're not God.

I've never claimed to be God. Hold your horses on that one.

The fact of the matter is, while there are some things that are opinion based not everything else. If I say to you, "Scripture teaches that Jesus is God" will you say, "Well, we really don't know anything about what scripture teaches concerning God, because you can't! It's just a bunch of people's opinions!" If you do, you are an extreme postmodernist.

 

[jimmydiggs]

God truthfully Jimmy is not a God of hate, God is a God of Mercy and Love to all, time to respond and stop being a God in creating hate, let others be and just love them to flesh death, on their own decisions

you know when your obedience is perfect then we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience? So is your obedience perfect Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love people, that's why I want to see them rescued from the miry bog.

2 He took me from a fearful pit,
and from the miry clay,
And on a rock he set my feet,
establishing my way.

3 He put a new song in my mouth,
our God to magnify:
Many shall see it, and shall fear,
and on the Lord rely.

4 O blessed is the man whose trust
upon the Lord relies;
Respecting not the proud, nor such
as turn aside to lies.​

 

[homwardbound]

I have proven I believe in a loving God, and you have proven you believe in a hateful condemning God. Give me one good reason why God would be against homosexuals?

*The bible isn't a reason.

for all things are permissible to me, just not all things are beneficial. So guess what I, you and anyone gets to decide what is beneficial or not to them. I am not condemned by God and still could sin easily, at any given moment which today keeps me in humility as what happened to Paul in 2 Cor. 12. where he explains to be remained humble and thankful, and not self-righteous. Now that is explained well in Phil 3 about the flesh and Spirit of God.
no matter what it is your free choice between God and you, you decide what is beneficial or not.
I know personally, I had many things I held onto that I believed were good for me, and over time as I wanted to just know Father I began to see differently and by free choice in trusting Father through Son, I quit things that I then saw as not being beneficial and were not. But at the time I was convinced they were. So The one's that do believe God seek God and truth and it is God that gets those to stand not me, not anyone else but God period

 

[homwardbound]

I would like to write a list of my sins just for today. maybe not enough room if I really detail from the time I opened my eyes to now.I have committed them before asked forgiveness. then catch myself doing it again. jumping to conclusions is one. thinking I know the right answer, sometimes my temper flares I know that is equal to murder, sadly I still do it. Jesus died for me he knows I will never get it all right all the time. 1 sin makes you a sinner even if you manage to be without in other areas. I can't seem to do it.

And that is the point no flesh can ever be perfect in and of itself ever. So that is why Christ came to go to the cross to give us new life by the Holy Spirit of God done by the resurrection where we learn to give up flesh efforts and trust God to do God's love work through us. Born AGAIN, from God through Son's resurrected life in the Spirit of God the Father
So just maybe I, maybe you only you know, and all, others as well know. Do we need new life? Is our flesh life wretched, are we under stress, trying to create life of our own and asking God to assist?
Maybe we need an exchanged life, my life for his life of Love beyond measure, hymm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does anyone hear God-Quill, instead of Ny-Quill so "I" can rest medicine, hymm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you decide ask God, love from god beyond human comprehension

 

[homwardbound]

At what point did I celebrate things that god hates. I'm saying that we should focus on our own challenges. God did not place the burden of being gay on me but I have sinned extensively because of my weakness. I live in an absolute mountain of sin And prefer to spend my effort in fixing that. I and don't celebrate that- I pray for forgiveness

Why comment on someone else's burdens - to isolate, ostracize and torment with your words. I specifically used the word inflict as that's what we do when we pursue commenting on gay rights when we don't believe their community should exists

But I'm here to learn as well so here's the question. I don't know much about scripture at all. I know more about the historic development of the bible from a secular level and bible studies in my early years and have only just recently started to turn to God again

So quoting scripture explain to me how I should treat gay people
1) in general
2) when they ask for help
3) when they talk about thier rights as gay people

The Mercy one has received, should we not extend that to all. A blind man leading the blind, both fall into a ditch. First take care of the board in my own eye, then I might see to help my brother's and Sister's
So maybe let us look at this below and think deeply as to what Love god does have for us all


THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
Lesson our judgement of others. We never see the whole picture. Never.
there are 1,000 reasons a person can behave a particular way. We don't know what is going on in their movie that motivates them to act in that way. I never know how I'd behave if I were in the other shoes. Today little by little, it would be good to learn to be more forgiving. Learn to where we can come from a place of help, rather than Judgement.

Judgements are only based on what one sees, from their owns thoughts. From their own experiences. There is truly only one that knows all. that one would be and is the creator of all.
If one learns to listen to the creator as Jesus Christ revealed to all mankind. (Christ taught us, to do nothing or say nothing w/o Father's instruction first and foremost), we would make the right judgements, with out condemnation. ( coming from the one listening),much less likely
The ones that argued would reveal their true selves, as was done in the day of visitation from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Steer clear from arguements, seek the truth in all things and one shall be free from the world and it's traps.

 

[homwardbound]

I don't find being gay a burden. I celebrate it and celebrate God by celebrating. Irrespective of what some of the many contradictory quotes in the 'all knowing' bible may say...

receive one not to disputes over doubtful things. for one only eats vegetables, and the other all things. do not despise or judge either in their behaviors. For I tell you the truth, that if God has received them, then God is the one that causes one to stand, not anyone else. Are you free from Sin and has God accepted you inspite of any sin? Maybe it is time to level the flesh self-righteous field to us all, no one in particular

 

[Hoffco]

I would like to hear a Christian testimony that the power,POWER, of God saved you. Eph.1:18-19 "The eyes of you understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power." Most christians today are not BORN of God's POWER, they are still living in sin , going to Hell. Repent and do good words of a change heart. Love in Christ, Hoffco

 

[homwardbound]

Love is not about who you sleep with. If that being the case, we would all be sleeping with one another, for the bible tells us to love your neighbor as yourself. I guess the "as yourself" part would mean that its also ok to masturbate?

And i will speak for myself, I'm not here to gay bash. We all fall short of the Glory of God. What I'm addressing is the teaching that some tries to teach. Not judging a persons salvation or are they saved or not. Even i, at this time, am trying to be very careful of what i say. As i believe we all should.

But the truth is, why would one wish to claim a title as to who they are? The only time i've heard a drug addict claim this as a title. was in N.A. or A.A.

Thank you for expressing God's unfathomable Love here that only can be received in the Spirit not flesh, thanks

 

[homwardbound]

I already gave you a reason why Sodomy is wrong and why it is an abomination.

God's word condemns sodomy (Lev. 18:22, Rom. 1:25-28, Jude 7).

I am not giving you my opinion Tee. I am giving you what the word of God clearly says about Sodomy. And if you take issue with that, well then you have an issue with God and His holy word.

And God's word condemns all flesh, except Christ's. so now what do you have to stand on? we are in unredeemed flesh are we not? What is the call from God to be here and now today? Flesh or Spirit?

 

[Hoffco]

God has never accepted ADULTERY or any other form of fornication, hetr or homo. Lets get it straight, we don't accept forniicators of any kind. They must repent and follow the holy way of God's laws to be saved. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

To Homwardbound, What you are saying is straight from the pit of Hell,You need to learn what God's says and say it clearly. Sorry, but it is not us who are condemmning, it is the WORD of God that condemns. Love to all, Love ie tough. Love is a choice to folloe God's way, not sin. Hoffco Please , lets all look at 1Cor,10 together and see God's condemnation of the nation of Israel, they went to hell for their sins. Read it with me ,NOW, open you Bible and read with me , and comment on it ,NOW please.

 

[homwardbound]

I love people, that's why I want to see them rescued from the miry bog.

2 He took me from a fearful pit,
and from the miry clay,
And on a rock he set my feet,
establishing my way.

3 He put a new song in my mouth,
our God to magnify:
Many shall see it, and shall fear,
and on the Lord rely.

4 O blessed is the man whose trust
upon the Lord relies;
Respecting not the proud, nor such
as turn aside to lies.​

Thanks Jimmy, it is by God's love that I turned to him and renewed my mind unto Father through Son. and am learning to this day, loving all just as he has and does love me through Son. I personally am in Awe over this miraculous love of Father through Son. ///////Truly it has left me speechless for many years in Awe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I desire for all to turn to God and not man nor man's interpretation(s), whether man is right or wrong at the interpretation man has received. For as one views one thing as good another views it as Bad. And condemnation has come out showing the evil flesh in self-righteous attitudes.
Love you Jimmy as deep as god does, deeper than the Mississippi

 

[homwardbound]

To Homwardbound, What you are saying is straight from the pit of Hell,You need to learn what God's says and say it clearly. Sorry, but it is not us who are condemmning, it is the WORD of God that condemns. Love to all, Love ie tough. Love is a choice to folloe God's way, not sin. Hoffco Please , lets all look at 1Cor,10 together and see God's condemnation of the nation of Israel, they went to hell for their sins. Read it with me ,NOW, open you Bible and read with me , and comment on it ,NOW please.

So hoffco, is your obedience perfect?