Why Do You Think God Made It So That Our Hormones Seem So Hyperactive When We're Young, and Not Older or Later On In Life?

[MsMediator]

However, that data all seems to attribute the decrease to such factors as nutritional status, adoption, geographical migration, and emotional well-being.

Yes I agree there are several factors leading to lower puberty age. I also believe the Fall is the reason, though a secular magazine would not mention this. The Bible does not go into this detail, but I just think when children have puberty (12 years old based on Bible), something is out of sync. Human women are the only beings, besides some types of fish, to go though menopause. I believe that could be due to the Fall as well.

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Yes I agree there are several factors leading to lower puberty age. I also believe the Fall is the reason, though a secular magazine would not mention this. The Bible does not go into this detail, but I just think when children have puberty (12 years old based on Bible), something is out of sync. Human women are the only beings, besides some types of fish, to go though menopause. I believe that could be due to the Fall as well.

Wow! I never knew about that correlation between women and fish. Suddenly, my past dating life makes a lot more sense in that I have dated women who were cold as a fish.

ONLY KIDDING! ONLY KIDDING!





You wouldn't hit a guy who wears glasses, would you?



I'M TELLING MOM!

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Human women are the only beings, besides some types of fish, to go though menopause. I believe that could be due to the Fall as well.

My idiotic sense of humor aside, here is my serious response.

I think that God's foreknowledge plays an important factor when it comes to menopause. I mean, initially, he told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, and what would have happened if sin and death had never entered into this world? Would they have continued to have children throughout eternity? How would the world have been big enough to sustain their endless lineage? Do you see what I am saying? In other words, God foreknew that man would sin and that death would enter into this world. Possibly, menopause did come as result of the fall or due to the fact that women became mortal, and God may have then determined a certain age bracket in which they would no longer be able to produce offspring.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

 

[MsMediator]

My idiotic sense of humor aside, here is my serious response.

I think that God's foreknowledge plays an important factor when it comes to menopause. I mean, initially, he told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, and what would have happened if sin and death had never entered into this world? Would they have continued to have children throughout eternity? How would the world have been big enough to sustain their endless lineage? Do you see what I am saying? In other words, God foreknew that man would sin and that death would enter into this world. Possibly, menopause did come as result of the fall or due to the fact that women became mortal, and God may have then determined a certain age bracket in which they would no longer be able to produce offspring.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

I do not believe there was sex in the garden (same with the animals) so there would not have been population issues there. Perhaps, menopause could be viewed as a blessing in disguise because death entered the world and because it is not too practical for the elderly to care for babies. With animals fertility dwindles down and the animals also lose interest, however it seems there is still the option to have offspring. The same could have been the case for humans, instead of being completely shut down.

 

[MsMediator]

As far as financial stability is concerned, in today's society, I would agree with you that is rarely, if ever, the case among teenagers. However, who said that today's society reflects God's original intent? In other words, it seems to me that teenagers used to be way more involved in family businesses back in the day, like farming, for example, and they may have had much better skills, and much more financial resources at their disposal, than the average teenager today has

Farming decreased over time due to various stages of industrialization and as the world became more white-collared, which evolved into people not gaining basic survival skills. Farming is also relatively low skilled (though hard work) compared to other fields. Because of capitalism, people naturally went for more lucrative higher paid fields however these fields take time to learn which is why people are studying longer and are not able to have families at younger ages. If we see today's migrants we see this fact pattern.

 

[Magenta]

Human women are the only beings, besides some types of fish, to go though menopause. I believe that could be due to the Fall as well.

Oh? What would you have instead? 90 year olds giving birth, like Sarah did?

 

[MsMediator]

Oh? What would you have instead? 90 year olds giving birth, like Sarah did?

If people are able to live healthy until 120 or older, like Sarah, I think it is fine. They need to live until the child is an adult.

 

[Magenta]

Human women are the only beings, besides some types of fish, to go though menopause. I believe that could be due to the Fall as well.

Menopause is rare in the animal kingdom, with only six known species to experience it. It's more
common in toothed whales than other animals. Some animals that go through menopause, include:

Killer whales: Female killer whales typically go through menopause in their 30s or 40s.
They continue to live for decades after losing the ability to have children.

Short-finned pilot whales: These whales also go through menopause.

Beluga whales: These whales go through menopause.

False killer whales: These whales go through menopause.

Narwhals: These whales go through menopause.

Chimpanzees: A study found that older female chimpanzees in Kibale National Park, Uganda, go through menopause.

That was from a general search engine search. PS~ whales are not fish.

 

[Magenta]

My idiotic sense of humor aside, here is my serious response.

I think that God's foreknowledge plays an important factor when it comes to menopause. I mean, initially, he told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, and what would have happened if sin and death had never entered into this world? Would they have continued to have children throughout eternity? How would the world have been big enough to sustain their endless lineage? Do you see what I am saying? In other words, God foreknew that man would sin and that death would enter into this world. Possibly, menopause did come as result of the fall or due to the fact that women became mortal, and God may have then determined a certain age bracket in which they would no longer be able to produce offspring.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

I just read the top of your head thoughts. You say woman became mortal. This is not in the text.
What is in the text (elsewhere) is that God alone dwells in immortality. The Tree of Life was there
in the Garden with them but they were prevented from eating of it after their disobedience specifically
to prevent them from becoming immortal. Some do believe that A&E ate from the Tree of Life just to
maintain their existence but that is not in the text either, and a proper reading of Scripture should
banish that misunderstanding as surely as Adam and Eve were banished from the garden.

 

[keepingthingsreal]

I just read the top of your head thoughts.

Didn't you see the "No trespassing" sign?

You say woman became mortal. This is not in the text.
What is in the text (elsewhere) is that God alone dwells in immortality. The Tree of Life was there
in the Garden with them but they were prevented from eating of it after their disobedience specifically
to prevent them from becoming immortal. Some do believe that A&E ate from the Tree of Life just to
maintain their existence but that is not in the text either, and a proper reading of Scripture should
banish that misunderstanding as surely as Adam and Eve were banished from the garden.

The way that I understand it, the word mortal means subject to death. Is that not in the text here?

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

In other words, did not Adam and Eve, and, subsequentially, all of their descendants, which would include you and me, become mortal or subject to death after they partook of the forbidden fruit?

I understand, per 1 Timothy 6:15-16, that, currently, Christ only hath immortality, but I also understand that immortality is the goal of all followers of Christ.

Rom 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

1Co 15:53
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

2Ti 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Is not our need to attain to immortality directly related to the mortality that entered into this world by one man's sin?

Rom 5:17
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ)

Do we not all need to be made alive in Christ because we all died in Adam?

1Co 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Unless I am totally misunderstanding the meaning of the word mortal, mortality entered into this world as a direct result of Adam and Eve partaking of the forbidden fruit. I understand that the tree of life was directly related to Adam and Eve's potential for immortality, but that was lost when they were banned from the garden and denied access to that tree after they had sinned. I am really not sure what the seeming point of contention is between us. Perhaps we are simply misunderstanding each other?



Whatever the case may be, I simply expressed my current understanding of the word mortal in this response and my intended use of that word. In other words, my response is not intended to appear the least bit quarrelsome. If you feel the need to further clarify your comments, then I will certainly read what you have to say. I am all for civil dialogue.

 

[enril]

well, immortal means you live forever. but not neccesarily have lived forever, right?
so there is still the God/man distinction.

 

[enril]

That is the meanest joke I have heard since that guy at work started on a rant about anti-Jew jokes.

actually i am quoting the statistics. scientifically done, by... anti-mormons... so?

 

[pineapple777]

Well, I'm 39 and female. I recently went to the Dr and they checked my hormone levels. Turns out I'm low on testosterone. So, Doc prescribes weekly testosterone shots. Now I wish I was married. lol.

 

[Karlon]

Well, I'm 39 and female. I recently went to the Dr and they checked my hormone levels. Turns out I'm low on testosterone. So, Doc prescribes weekly testosterone shots. Now I wish I was married. lol.

forget the shots. increase your t. level thru foods! it's much better & a happier experience.

 

[pineapple777]

forget the shots. increase your t. level thru foods! it's much better & a happier experience.

What type of foods?

 

[Karlon]

What type of foods?

spinach labeled the best food in the world because of it's high level of vitamins & nutrients. bananas was tied with spinach in 1 survey. blueberries are high in antioxidants. honey strengthens the immune system. white tea is the absolute best of teas because of it's VERY high level of antioxidants. for instance, just recently, my wife came home from an 18 day vacation with a cold. by course, we sleep in the same bed * i did not catch her cold because i drink white tea. in fact, whenever she gets sick, i never get sick. a friend of mine owns a health food store & i learned some info from him. 1 day, back in 1996, i felt like i was getting a cold. so i called my buddy, & said, "what do you have for a cold"? he said, "come on up & get some white tea". i did, drank some & never did get the cold . & i haven't been sick since " except for 5 days with covid. for covid, i ate 3 oranges a day, drank 6 to 8 cups of white tea per day & lots of honey & covid was was gone only in 5 days. fish, blueberries & spinach are proven brain foods too. great for memory too. extra virgin olive oil is highly beneficial! a steady diet of green vegetables is very proper. raisins have 11 vitamins & nutrients, very healthy. but, here's what a lot of people do, they eat the above foods but still keep eating foods with additives, chemicals, fillers, fertilizers & preservatives & wonder why there's little change. plus, they still eat junk food. it's like raking the leaves in the wind! but there's more to it. be a born again Christian, remove all negativity, pessimism, doubting, pouting, complaining, hurrying, worrying & all else concerning that. too, eliminate all white sugar, white flour & enriched foods. those are the basics, much more, by course. nice chatting with you pineapple, happy thanksgiving!

 

[pineapple777]

spinach labeled the best food in the world because of it's high level of vitamins & nutrients. bananas was tied with spinach in 1 survey. blueberries are high in antioxidants. honey strengthens the immune system. white tea is the absolute best of teas because of it's VERY high level of antioxidants. for instance, just recently, my wife came home from an 18 day vacation with a cold. by course, we sleep in the same bed * i did not catch her cold because i drink white tea. in fact, whenever she gets sick, i never get sick. a friend of mine owns a health food store & i learned some info from him. 1 day, back in 1996, i felt like i was getting a cold. so i called my buddy, & said, "what do you have for a cold"? he said, "come on up & get some white tea". i did, drank some & never did get the cold . & i haven't been sick since " except for 5 days with covid. for covid, i ate 3 oranges a day, drank 6 to 8 cups of white tea per day & lots of honey & covid was was gone only in 5 days. fish, blueberries & spinach are proven brain foods too. great for memory too. extra virgin olive oil is highly beneficial! a steady diet of green vegetables is very proper. raisins have 11 vitamins & nutrients, very healthy. but, here's what a lot of people do, they eat the above foods but still keep eating foods with additives, chemicals, fillers, fertilizers & preservatives & wonder why there's little change. plus, they still eat junk food. it's like raking the leaves in the wind! but there's more to it. be a born again Christian, remove all negativity, pessimism, doubting, pouting, complaining, hurrying, worrying & all else concerning that. too, eliminate all white sugar, white flour & enriched foods. those are the basics, much more, by course. nice chatting with you pineapple, happy thanksgiving!

I eat a lot of spinach(recommendation from the eye Dr.), and I'm trying to lose weight. Speaking of tea, my Aunt drinks pine needle tea almost every day and has been around our family 3 times when we all had Covid and she's the only one who never got sick. I take a lot of medications though so I have read to be careful with the pine needle tea if a person takes meds. Nice chatting with you as well. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!