Does Romantic Love Cure Depression, Alcoholism/Drugs, Porn/Sex (Put Your Vice Here) Addiction?
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Just threw Eve under the bus...not exactly a loving thing to do
and blaming God...
when God had warned him in the first place not to eat from the tree.
God entrusted humans with His creation. It was a test to see if they really could handle it. Is it cruel of God to put humans to the test? It would be cruel not to. If we are never tested, how will God know where our hearts lie?
and blaming God...
when God had warned him in the first place not to eat from the tree.
God entrusted humans with His creation. It was a test to see if they really could handle it. Is it cruel of God to put humans to the test? It would be cruel not to. If we are never tested, how will God know where our hearts lie?
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Like at his engagement Prince Charles being asked 'Are you in love' and instead of him saying YES him answering some stupid comment like 'whatever in love means'
When God asked Adam had he eaten the fruit of the tree he was told not to eat from...all Adam had to say was YES.
Instead of throwing his wife under the proverbial bus. God ALREADY knew Eve had eaten it because she admitted it.
When God asked Adam had he eaten the fruit of the tree he was told not to eat from...all Adam had to say was YES.
Instead of throwing his wife under the proverbial bus. God ALREADY knew Eve had eaten it because she admitted it.
well looking at the passage actually God did ask Adam first and who told him he was naked? ...but I'm not sure anyone told them they kind of found out. They were already naked before.
so what were they ashamed of....? God asks the woman (EVE, not named yet) what is this she had done.
The bible doesnt specify but usually when a man and a women are naked together its kinda obvious what they had done. They couldnt even say what they had done really....
so what were they ashamed of....? God asks the woman (EVE, not named yet) what is this she had done.
The bible doesnt specify but usually when a man and a women are naked together its kinda obvious what they had done. They couldnt even say what they had done really....
Hey Everyone,
This thread is inspired by another ongoing thread here, but the topic comes up frequently here in Singles.
Many singles think that whatever they're struggling with will get better or even disappear altogether "if only" they found their "one true love," their "soul mate," their absolute dream person from God who is going to be the total game changer -- or so they think.
Now, I am definitely not trying to say that this can't or doesn't happen.
I'm just interested in what others have observed regarding this topic. If you think about the people in your life -- it could be you, a friend, a relative, a parent, a step-parent, a church member, a co-worker -- have any of them believed that a Godly, loving relationship or marriage would make all their issues get better or go away? So what actually happened when they did find love?
Don't limit the list of possible problems to the ones in just the title -- it could be video games, food, loneliness, insecurities, addiction to work -- anything that is interfering with your life, is causing you distress, or is causing you to live a lesser quality of life because of your inability to resist or avoid the issue, whatever it may be. It could be something you once chose on your own, or something you had no power against but yet you have to deal with it now on a regular basis.
Most Christian singles seem to believe that a Christ-centered marriage will conquer everything. But what have you actually experienced and observed in your everyday life? One thing that always perplexes me is how far reality can be from our ideals, and we often find this out much too late. What can we do to prevent this?
*Of the people you can think of who thought a romantic relationship would improve their state -- did things get better, worse, or stay the same?
* Why do you think that is, especially if both people involved were Christians?
Please note that I see this question as having no "right" or "wrong" answers -- the only thing I'm really after is how people's realities have played out vs. the ideals they once held (and acted upon.)
I have included an anonymous, multiple-choice poll because I'm really interested in hearing people's thoughts and observations about this. And if there is enough interest, I may repeat this thread and poll in the Family Forum in order to get answers from our married friends who can speak from experience.
Thank you for sharing your dose of reality with us today!
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A-loving spouse can definitely help one to overcome difficulties, but truly, only Jesus Christ can deliver us from fleshy desires and wrong thinking. Having someone to share with is helpful, though, especially if that person listens well and loves unconditionally.
This thread is inspired by another ongoing thread here, but the topic comes up frequently here in Singles.
Many singles think that whatever they're struggling with will get better or even disappear altogether "if only" they found their "one true love," their "soul mate," their absolute dream person from God who is going to be the total game changer -- or so they think.
Now, I am definitely not trying to say that this can't or doesn't happen.
I'm just interested in what others have observed regarding this topic. If you think about the people in your life -- it could be you, a friend, a relative, a parent, a step-parent, a church member, a co-worker -- have any of them believed that a Godly, loving relationship or marriage would make all their issues get better or go away? So what actually happened when they did find love?
Don't limit the list of possible problems to the ones in just the title -- it could be video games, food, loneliness, insecurities, addiction to work -- anything that is interfering with your life, is causing you distress, or is causing you to live a lesser quality of life because of your inability to resist or avoid the issue, whatever it may be. It could be something you once chose on your own, or something you had no power against but yet you have to deal with it now on a regular basis.
Most Christian singles seem to believe that a Christ-centered marriage will conquer everything. But what have you actually experienced and observed in your everyday life? One thing that always perplexes me is how far reality can be from our ideals, and we often find this out much too late. What can we do to prevent this?
*Of the people you can think of who thought a romantic relationship would improve their state -- did things get better, worse, or stay the same?
* Why do you think that is, especially if both people involved were Christians?
Please note that I see this question as having no "right" or "wrong" answers -- the only thing I'm really after is how people's realities have played out vs. the ideals they once held (and acted upon.)
I have included an anonymous, multiple-choice poll because I'm really interested in hearing people's thoughts and observations about this. And if there is enough interest, I may repeat this thread and poll in the Family Forum in order to get answers from our married friends who can speak from experience.
Thank you for sharing your dose of reality with us today!
[/QUOTEA-loving spouse can definitely help one to overcome difficulties, but truly, only Jesus Christ can deliver us from fleshy desires and wrong thinking. Having someone to share with is helpful, though, especially if that person listens well and loves unconditionally.
While a supportive partner can help it doesnt cure.
I thought that loving someone and showing the way would be enough to save someone. Failed epically twice.
In fact the first time it ended up with the guy stalking me and ending up in court. While he changed and or felt better in the relationship the servere mental illness dragged me down up to a point where i couldnt stand it anymore. All the support i gave ended up digging my own grave. While some points got better other things like obsessiveness chronified.
The second always said that love was the cure...well he had a alcohol problem that he hid behind my back and silently got worse. Also ended in a fiasco.
Supporting someone can help but if someone doesnt want to stop he or she wont.
Advice: dont think you can save anyone. Only Jesus can
And that only if that person allows it. Dont make it your mission
I thought that loving someone and showing the way would be enough to save someone. Failed epically twice.
In fact the first time it ended up with the guy stalking me and ending up in court. While he changed and or felt better in the relationship the servere mental illness dragged me down up to a point where i couldnt stand it anymore. All the support i gave ended up digging my own grave. While some points got better other things like obsessiveness chronified.
The second always said that love was the cure...well he had a alcohol problem that he hid behind my back and silently got worse. Also ended in a fiasco.
Supporting someone can help but if someone doesnt want to stop he or she wont.
Advice: dont think you can save anyone. Only Jesus can
And that only if that person allows it. Dont make it your mission
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We have to fall in love with god.Has to be god first...If you show true love to any one, god will repay you in kind sooner or latter.Some where it is written god is love.
So is very definite, carnality or this world cannot understand the things of God because God is a spirit and only the spirit can reveal the things of the spirit.
So I am finding that Satan ever present as he is in this spiritual war he takes truth and rearranges it or twists it. Which I am sure we can agree more examples of that than need be referred to.
So in this war I have found that Satan has twisted that truth that God is love into love is god Try and call sin, sin now and suddenly the whole world has become theologians and will say love your neighbor. Then will proceed to define what love is a hundred and one ways and not a one will be the way God has defined love or defined himself.
It is in the language all around us, love wins, chose love, and many more slogans.
However, they have bought the lie that love is god and that allows them to ultimately define God. When the truth be God is love and only he can define love which when he does he defines himself.
Some people just want to avoid Jesus and the truth as long as they can, but if they do that, they will never be free.
Its that simple.
Jesus is the only name by which anyone can be saved.
I met someone who shared that she used to be on meth, and other drugs she was able to give that up by sheer willpower but she wasnt able to give up her relationship to the gang member she was with...it was so much harder and her son was growing up to be a potential drug dealer just like his dad. When she got clean, when she was with the gang member she would be like his front.
So maybe she wasnt addicted to the drugs any more but she was actually helping him pull others down by being the sober front.
One day she had a terrible vision of hell and demons and it was only by prayer and fasting and the mighty name of Jesus she was ever able to leave that relationship. Her parents had been praying for her all this while.
Today she is married to a kind christian man (but it was NOT because of him that she got free...it was thanks to Jesus) and works to share the gospel in prisons, and also they have this rehab facility for drug addicts which they have funded themselves so...
I would say it was a testimony to Jesus first and stop with this idea that 'romantic love' ever cured anything. Wasnt the drug dealer 'romantic' at first? At first, he had given her all the attention and affirmation she was craving and swept her off her feet. He probably told her he loved her.
Ive had men lie to my face and say they loved me!
Jesus love is so much greater.
Its that simple.
Jesus is the only name by which anyone can be saved.
I met someone who shared that she used to be on meth, and other drugs she was able to give that up by sheer willpower but she wasnt able to give up her relationship to the gang member she was with...it was so much harder and her son was growing up to be a potential drug dealer just like his dad. When she got clean, when she was with the gang member she would be like his front.
So maybe she wasnt addicted to the drugs any more but she was actually helping him pull others down by being the sober front.
One day she had a terrible vision of hell and demons and it was only by prayer and fasting and the mighty name of Jesus she was ever able to leave that relationship. Her parents had been praying for her all this while.
Today she is married to a kind christian man (but it was NOT because of him that she got free...it was thanks to Jesus) and works to share the gospel in prisons, and also they have this rehab facility for drug addicts which they have funded themselves so...
I would say it was a testimony to Jesus first and stop with this idea that 'romantic love' ever cured anything. Wasnt the drug dealer 'romantic' at first? At first, he had given her all the attention and affirmation she was craving and swept her off her feet. He probably told her he loved her.
Ive had men lie to my face and say they loved me!
Jesus love is so much greater.
Jesus is the only name by which anyone can be saved.Yes but it is not by utterance of the right sound but by true repentance.The apostle did not use the sound Jesus rather more Yeshua. in Greek it was more like e-ah-sus..The sons of sceva made the mistake of treating the name as if it was magic of it self.The reason i bring this up is because it's a very common mistake.The Mormons are a great example of this.
I think most christians do understand that repentence comes before being baptised.
those caught up in WOF doctrine tend to think scripture is like magic words. There is power in Jesus name yes, and Jesus was able to cast out demons by just saying the word, but also because He believed.
A lot of people think prayer alone is enough, but demons are only cast out by prayer AND fasting. People tend to forget about the fasting. Which is very important.
Not just giving up food, (or whatever vice) but the act of fasting is like repenting.
those caught up in WOF doctrine tend to think scripture is like magic words. There is power in Jesus name yes, and Jesus was able to cast out demons by just saying the word, but also because He believed.
A lot of people think prayer alone is enough, but demons are only cast out by prayer AND fasting. People tend to forget about the fasting. Which is very important.
Not just giving up food, (or whatever vice) but the act of fasting is like repenting.
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just as you said:
Sorry Lanolin your right! should have read it better. Prayer in Jesus’ name is taught in John 14:13-14, “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” Some misapply this verse, thinking that saying “in Jesus’ name” at the end of a prayer results in God’s always granting what is asked for. This is essentially treating the words “in Jesus’ name” as a enchantment.
Sorry Lanolin your right! should have read it better. Prayer in Jesus’ name is taught in John 14:13-14, “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” Some misapply this verse, thinking that saying “in Jesus’ name” at the end of a prayer results in God’s always granting what is asked for. This is essentially treating the words “in Jesus’ name” as a enchantment.
Hey Everyone,
This thread is inspired by another ongoing thread here, but the topic comes up frequently here in Singles.
Many singles think that whatever they're struggling with will get better or even disappear altogether "if only" they found their "one true love," their "soul mate," their absolute dream person from God who is going to be the total game changer -- or so they think.
Now, I am definitely not trying to say that this can't or doesn't happen.
I'm just interested in what others have observed regarding this topic. If you think about the people in your life -- it could be you, a friend, a relative, a parent, a step-parent, a church member, a co-worker -- have any of them believed that a Godly, loving relationship or marriage would make all their issues get better or go away? So what actually happened when they did find love?
Don't limit the list of possible problems to the ones in just the title -- it could be video games, food, loneliness, insecurities, addiction to work -- anything that is interfering with your life, is causing you distress, or is causing you to live a lesser quality of life because of your inability to resist or avoid the issue, whatever it may be. It could be something you once chose on your own, or something you had no power against but yet you have to deal with it now on a regular basis.
Most Christian singles seem to believe that a Christ-centered marriage will conquer everything. But what have you actually experienced and observed in your everyday life? One thing that always perplexes me is how far reality can be from our ideals, and we often find this out much too late. What can we do to prevent this?
*Of the people you can think of who thought a romantic relationship would improve their state -- did things get better, worse, or stay the same?
* Why do you think that is, especially if both people involved were Christians?
Please note that I see this question as having no "right" or "wrong" answers -- the only thing I'm really after is how people's realities have played out vs. the ideals they once held (and acted upon.)
I have included an anonymous, multiple-choice poll because I'm really interested in hearing people's thoughts and observations about this. And if there is enough interest, I may repeat this thread and poll in the Family Forum in order to get answers from our married friends who can speak from experience.
Thank you for sharing your dose of reality with us today!
This thread is inspired by another ongoing thread here, but the topic comes up frequently here in Singles.
Many singles think that whatever they're struggling with will get better or even disappear altogether "if only" they found their "one true love," their "soul mate," their absolute dream person from God who is going to be the total game changer -- or so they think.
Now, I am definitely not trying to say that this can't or doesn't happen.
I'm just interested in what others have observed regarding this topic. If you think about the people in your life -- it could be you, a friend, a relative, a parent, a step-parent, a church member, a co-worker -- have any of them believed that a Godly, loving relationship or marriage would make all their issues get better or go away? So what actually happened when they did find love?
Don't limit the list of possible problems to the ones in just the title -- it could be video games, food, loneliness, insecurities, addiction to work -- anything that is interfering with your life, is causing you distress, or is causing you to live a lesser quality of life because of your inability to resist or avoid the issue, whatever it may be. It could be something you once chose on your own, or something you had no power against but yet you have to deal with it now on a regular basis.
Most Christian singles seem to believe that a Christ-centered marriage will conquer everything. But what have you actually experienced and observed in your everyday life? One thing that always perplexes me is how far reality can be from our ideals, and we often find this out much too late. What can we do to prevent this?
*Of the people you can think of who thought a romantic relationship would improve their state -- did things get better, worse, or stay the same?
* Why do you think that is, especially if both people involved were Christians?
Please note that I see this question as having no "right" or "wrong" answers -- the only thing I'm really after is how people's realities have played out vs. the ideals they once held (and acted upon.)
I have included an anonymous, multiple-choice poll because I'm really interested in hearing people's thoughts and observations about this. And if there is enough interest, I may repeat this thread and poll in the Family Forum in order to get answers from our married friends who can speak from experience.
Thank you for sharing your dose of reality with us today!
The biggest problem is the bigest marriage breaker is the devil, so where a marriage may be lossed or not cure things is where the two people do not share there thoughts well enough or recognise when spiritual oppresion will be happening, Because it will happen the devil will want to destroy all marriages especially since the two people have made a vow to God that nothing will seperate us untill death do we part. Then the caring vow which is i promise to honor you for richer for poorer for sickness for health be for God who is the devils enemy. our devil is sinister and will want to prove people of God can break that promise.. Then after the marriage is broke the devil will get of scott free and somebody else will get the blame for the wrecked marriage after the devil caused the marriage to fail.
The devil will make adultery happen over and over in a persons heart and mind to untill he can pervert the marriage.
The devil will make and arouse suppicion over and over in a persons mind untill the two neglect each others trust and the bond that they have.
The devil will cause one member of the marriage to be hated over and over by a family member untill the two people become devided over the issue in the marriage.
The devil will cause famine and disease and even steal there employment untill the happiness of the security they have in the marriage is lost.
The devil will keep at it and untill bad things happen..
If the couple can come to know all the devils ways and talk about there thoughts and recognise when the devil is controling there thoughts they will have a chance.. but the sad thing is the devil plants an unusual thought and the person thinks im not sharing that. And the devil will go to work on a persons mind this way until they go crazy. the person will not recognise they are being tricked or mind controlled mentally and they go crazy.
personally i think pre warning all marriages from the church with what the devil will try to do, to all marriages would be a good idea.