Do you believe in a soulmate? POLL

[cinder]

I decided not to. Even if there wasn't or was a verse in the Bible it's just common sense he's not marrying us physically. If he was Jesus would come down here marry woman and have sex with her. that's how a marriage works marrying someone physically. If he's not marrying us physically what else does he have to marry? Obviously the only thing left is our spirit. And you don't have sex with a spirit. if you know who God is and what he does then you know he is not going to marry us physically. And surely if you know scripture you know that the church is the bride of Christ. And if you know the story in scripture about being the bride of Christ it's who we are when we are saved in the church and we are being prepared to marry Christ and be his bride forever in heaven and we will be fully wed forever in eternity. He's definitely not marrying us now physically and then going to live with us forever because our physical bodies are going to die. If you really need Scripture to understand that then you don't even understand the basics of scripture or who God is. And that's what tells me that even if I find this verse, I believe you're going to just still argue and debate about it anyway. something about you seems like you dont read scripture or understand it well enough or either you're just stubborn and don't want to believe it. This is basic knowledge if you understand spirituality then you understand there is only a Physical Realm and a spiritual realm and God is not going to be physical in this world.

But here, if you must have some scripture to be aware Jesus has a bride, there are multiple verses, old and new Testament.

Revelation 21:9
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.”

Isaiah 54:5
For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

Revelation 19:7-9
Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready; it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure”— for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. And the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.”

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Revelation 21:9-11
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.

You say you understand the spiritual realm so well beyond my imagination, but as many times as the Bible speaks about being the bride of Christ, I don't believe you understand the word of God near as much. This is a huge deal about having our relationship with Christ. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the physical marriage and why God made it either. Hopefully this helps you. If you understood, and if you knew, you wouldn't be debating about it. I only understand spirituality because I understand his word by his holy spirit in me. So I'm not sure how you understand it so well beyond me.

I think the bigger issue is the rather unjustified leap from Jesus having a corporate bride ( and when it comes to talking about the bride of christ in scripture it's always a corporate identity), which it would not be unreasonable to consider mostly metaphor and imagery, to the idea that there is going to be some sort of personal individual marriage with Jesus for every believer (how does that not stray into the territory of polygamy?). Jesus isn't going to marry me, he's going to marry the church. Just like a guy would marry me, not my big toe or kneecap or thumb.

And sometimes I wonder if, when we start sharing our great understanding, God looks at us like we look at 7 year olds on a playground dispensing their "wisdom" to 5 year olds.

 

[Xethea]

I think the bigger issue is the rather unjustified leap from Jesus having a corporate bride ( and when it comes to talking about the bride of christ in scripture it's always a corporate identity), which it would not be unreasonable to consider mostly metaphor and imagery, to the idea that there is going to be some sort of personal individual marriage with Jesus for every believer (how does that not stray into the territory of polygamy?). Jesus isn't going to marry me, he's going to marry the church. Just like a guy would marry me, not my big toe or kneecap or thumb.

And sometimes I wonder if, when we start sharing our great understanding, God looks at us like we look at 7 year olds on a playground dispensing their "wisdom" to 5 year olds.

Right, about that he isn't going to marry you or me, but he is going to marry the church. The body of Christ. Which is every saved one together as one for Christ. It is a marriage, but in a spiritual sense and not physical. How can Christ marry you and I and every other saved one of someone is only supposed to marry 1 being? Well you and I and all others are counted as 1 spiritually, just as God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are 1, and yet, you and I and all others are individuals, and God, Jesus and Holy Spirit are individuals. See, if we understand spirituality, we can see how this works. We are one and yet individuals as well. Seeing that in a physical perspective won't make sense.

He will marry all of us who are saved, the church, as 1 Bride for himself.

 

[Xethea]

I think the bigger issue is the rather unjustified leap from Jesus having a corporate bride ( and when it comes to talking about the bride of christ in scripture it's always a corporate identity), which it would not be unreasonable to consider mostly metaphor and imagery, to the idea that there is going to be some sort of personal individual marriage with Jesus for every believer (how does that not stray into the territory of polygamy?). Jesus isn't going to marry me, he's going to marry the church. Just like a guy would marry me, not my big toe or kneecap or thumb.

And sometimes I wonder if, when we start sharing our great understanding, God looks at us like we look at 7 year olds on a playground dispensing their "wisdom" to 5 year olds.

When we share wisdom, truth, the Gospel, it is to be God doing it through us by his spirit. So, no, he doesn't see us like 7 year olds and such unless some unsaved person is trying to.

 

[Kojikun]

For some reason I keep thinking about an old xkcd comic...

https://xkcd.com/310/

I post the link to the comic instead of the comic itself because there is one minor cuss word in it.

Lol minimalist art style for sure but good stuff! Lol

 

[tourist]

I do believe that God can match you up with the one of your heart's desire but you have to be prepared as this person God may match you up with probably wants their heart's desire as well. I don't believe that there is only one person in the world meant exclusively for you as there can be many that would make an excellent spouse. What I do believe is that it is possible to be very happy and content in married life as long as God is in the center of the marriage. I have mentioned in previous posts from a few years ago that I believe in soul mates but my thought process has evolved on this matter. I believe that it is best to allow God to search and find this special person if you are inclined to end loneliness and want someone to share your life with providing you are ready to get married. I voted 'other'.

 

[tourist]

i believe there are many potential soulmates out there for any given individual. For example what happens where your wife or husband dies and you get remarried to another? So there has to be multiple potentials out there for us. Opportunities will come and go.
Even though we may want someone the cost of actually having them there means we give up some of our own wants and desires that single lives offer. We simple can't just do what we want when we want to because we are considering the other half.
then you need to get on with that person warts and all after the honeymoon period. Making a commitment to someone for life is a major deal....it's not just about finding someone who will love you but also being committed to them through life's ups and downs and looking past their sinful broken state.

As we get older we are more wary so people stay single for longer. The problem is the grass is always greener on the other side till you get there

I was in such a position that you described in your first paragraph. You are correct also that opportunities will come and go so you have to take decisive action if such an opportunity arose. Actually, I agree with your entire well written post on this topic.

 

[tourist]

I decided not to. Even if there wasn't or was a verse in the Bible it's just common sense he's not marrying us physically. If he was Jesus would come down here marry woman and have sex with her. that's how a marriage works marrying someone physically. If he's not marrying us physically what else does he have to marry? Obviously the only thing left is our spirit. And you don't have sex with a spirit. if you know who God is and what he does then you know he is not going to marry us physically. And surely if you know scripture you know that the church is the bride of Christ. And if you know the story in scripture about being the bride of Christ it's who we are when we are saved in the church and we are being prepared to marry Christ and be his bride forever in heaven and we will be fully wed forever in eternity. He's definitely not marrying us now physically and then going to live with us forever because our physical bodies are going to die. If you really need Scripture to understand that then you don't even understand the basics of scripture or who God is. And that's what tells me that even if I find this verse, I believe you're going to just still argue and debate about it anyway. something about you seems like you dont read scripture or understand it well enough or either you're just stubborn and don't want to believe it. This is basic knowledge if you understand spirituality then you understand there is only a Physical Realm and a spiritual realm and God is not going to be physical in this world.

But here, if you must have some scripture to be aware Jesus has a bride, there are multiple verses, old and new Testament.

Revelation 21:9
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.”

Isaiah 54:5
For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

Revelation 19:7-9
Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready; it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure”— for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. And the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.”

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Revelation 21:9-11
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.

You say you understand the spiritual realm so well beyond my imagination, but as many times as the Bible speaks about being the bride of Christ, I don't believe you understand the word of God near as much. This is a huge deal about having our relationship with Christ. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the physical marriage and why God made it either. Hopefully this helps you. If you understood, and if you knew, you wouldn't be debating about it. I only understand spirituality because I understand his word by his holy spirit in me. So I'm not sure how you understand it so well beyond me.

Jesus is not going to marry us physically or spiritually as the mention of marriage in the bible regarding Jesus is to the church and not to an individual. I sure do not consider myself to become a future bride and I sure ain't putting on no wedding dress either.

 

[ArtsieSteph]

I believe God has a plan and makes someone just for you. And what we have to accept is that may mean the one for you is no one. As in God is the one for you. And I don’t know for me if it’s one or the other. So we always have a soulmate in Christ.

 

[Demi777]

I decided not to. Even if there wasn't or was a verse in the Bible it's just common sense he's not marrying us physically. If he was Jesus would come down here marry woman and have sex with her. that's how a marriage works marrying someone physically. If he's not marrying us physically what else does he have to marry? Obviously the only thing left is our spirit. And you don't have sex with a spirit. if you know who God is and what he does then you know he is not going to marry us physically. And surely if you know scripture you know that the church is the bride of Christ. And if you know the story in scripture about being the bride of Christ it's who we are when we are saved in the church and we are being prepared to marry Christ and be his bride forever in heaven and we will be fully wed forever in eternity. He's definitely not marrying us now physically and then going to live with us forever because our physical bodies are going to die. If you really need Scripture to understand that then you don't even understand the basics of scripture or who God is. And that's what tells me that even if I find this verse, I believe you're going to just still argue and debate about it anyway. something about you seems like you dont read scripture or understand it well enough or either you're just stubborn and don't want to believe it. This is basic knowledge if you understand spirituality then you understand there is only a Physical Realm and a spiritual realm and God is not going to be physical in this world.

But here, if you must have some scripture to be aware Jesus has a bride, there are multiple verses, old and new Testament.

Revelation 21:9
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.”

Isaiah 54:5
For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

Revelation 19:7-9
Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready; it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure”— for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. And the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.”

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Revelation 21:9-11
Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.

You say you understand the spiritual realm so well beyond my imagination, but as many times as the Bible speaks about being the bride of Christ, I don't believe you understand the word of God near as much. This is a huge deal about having our relationship with Christ. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the physical marriage and why God made it either. Hopefully this helps you. If you understood, and if you knew, you wouldn't be debating about it. I only understand spirituality because I understand his word by his holy spirit in me. So I'm not sure how you understand it so well beyond me.

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

 

[Xethea]

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

I didnt think you were arguing. I didnt think you were angry. You kept begging for biblical proof. I don't see why you would want me to post it unless you were debating that what I said want true. I wasn't "running my mouth"i was only explaining to make sense and typing the verses you asked for. If you see that as running my mouth and being a sin, I'm sorry you feel that way whenever someone describes things with respect. I won't water down things when I talk, I'm straightforward and honest and don't need to insult anyone to explain something.

 

[Xethea]

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

You just claimed you knew SO MUCH that it's just odd I needed to explain something very basic about scripture that is widely known and popular in the world about Jesus. If he is your Savior and you understand spirituality so well, I just can't logically see why you don't know this already when it's all over the Bible. Am I wrong for that?

 

[Xethea]

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

You must have forgotten A LOT of things Jesus said and did. I gave you scriptures, I gave you an explanation. You said Jesus did that, but... Are you saying I didn't when I just did?

 

[Xethea]

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

Andwould you please tell me what I proclaimed that is false teaching? Even with the scripture I gave?

 

[Xethea]

I didnt ask about the flesh that fades away. I want to see your proof that Jesus is MARRIED to our Soul.
We all the body of Christ are called the bride but nowhere do I see him talking about being married to our spirit.

What is the purpose of Christ having a bride he won't marry? You know, looking back at the first time you challenged me, it reminds me of Pharisees questioning Jesus, looking for a way to find him guilty of false teaching and blasphemy to arrest and kill him. Do you remember how he responded every time to Pharisees? No so kindly every time, such as the time he called them fools. I don't think you were asking to learn truth. I think you were asking to find some way to see if I'm teaching lies to be negative with me.

 

[Xethea]

Im not arguing.
Its funny how fast u run your mouth when you cant proove your point.
U cant proove that Jesus wont marry our spirit.
With that the case is closed.
I have a deep relationship with my Lord, which is why i challenged u. I dont like false teaching, nor does my Lord.
I never questioned ur salvation or called u names in any way.
But here u go attacking your bretheren from the beginning with things like ,,oh i am surprised I have to explain that to any christian,, and other attacks.
Not very loving. When Jesus was challenged, he had scriptures and explanations. Not attacks and dragging people down.

In those verses alone that I gave you do you not see that it repeats that Christ, the lamb, the maker God, has a bride? That it says he is getting married he has a bride that has been waiting to be wet to him and the bride is ready to marry him? Do you debate that they are saying the Lord has a bride and he is marrying that bride? And do you find that physical or spiritual? because there's nothing else outside of spiritual or physical, but if you do believe there is I would like to hear it because I've never heard it and I've never read it in scripture there's anything different. I just like to know do you believe these verses are false or is there a different way to view them that the Lord doesn't have a wife, because here it literally says clearly he does. You never responded about the verses you asked for, but you spoke about false teaching. So were those verses false?

 

[Demi777]

In those verses alone that I gave you do you not see that it repeats that Christ, the lamb, the maker God, has a bride? That it says he is getting married he has a bride that has been waiting to be wet to him and the bride is ready to marry him? Do you debate that they are saying the Lord has a bride and he is marrying that bride? And do you find that physical or spiritual? because there's nothing else outside of spiritual or physical, but if you do believe there is I would like to hear it because I've never heard it and I've never read it in scripture there's anything different. I just like to know do you believe these verses are false or is there a different way to view them that the Lord doesn't have a wife, because here it literally says clearly he does. You never responded about the verses you asked for, but you spoke about false teaching. So were those verses false?

The whole body of Christ is the bride. Its symbolism so that we can understand things coming our ways.
Nowhere does he say he will marry our spirit.
Its end time symbolism. Same with the labor pains. He wont marry us make all our spirits pregnant and a dragon show up to eat our spirit babies.
Its symbolism

 

[CharliRenee]

Right, about that he isn't going to marry you or me, but he is going to marry the church. The body of Christ. Which is every saved one together as one for Christ. It is a marriage, but in a spiritual sense and not physical. How can Christ marry you and I and every other saved one of someone is only supposed to marry 1 being? Well you and I and all others are counted as 1 spiritually, just as God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are 1, and yet, you and I and all others are individuals, and God, Jesus and Holy Spirit are individuals. See, if we understand spirituality, we can see how this works. We are one and yet individuals as well. Seeing that in a physical perspective won't make sense.

He will marry all of us who are saved, the church, as 1 Bride for himself.

Ok, help me to understand you, please. So you think that the marriage ceremony in Revelations is a covenant between Him and the body of Christ, the church, the bride, right? I liken it to the marriage ceremony between a man and a woman. I mean we are one with Him already, once we receive Him. We already belong to Him, eh? If this is what you believe, then I think we are all of one accord on this matter.

 

[cinder]

Anyone else notice there's a change vote button on the polls now so that once you've voted you can go back and change your mind? Just noticed that (and thought I'd point it out so anyone who chose the wrong answer can go back and correct it ).

 

[tourist]

I believe God has a plan and makes someone just for you. And what we have to accept is that may mean the one for you is no one. As in God is the one for you. And I don’t know for me if it’s one or the other. So we always have a soulmate in Christ.

That's not at all the same as having a loving and faithful spouse to share one's journey in life. Perhaps God does indeed have a certain specific someone in mind but generally, you pray on this and must be prepared to take action when the opportunity should arise. It's a calculated risk in deciding to forge a lasting and enduring relationship whether or not God is involved but if God is placed in the center of the relationship then it should be a successful marriage. That does not mean that there won't be problems because rest assured there most certainly will come trials but these will be endured together and ultimately, by the grace of God, they will be overcome. God is the one for each of us but God also said that it is not good to be alone. Even when the Lord walked with Adam he was still lonely for someone of his kind. You can be overly cautious and tentative when considering a relationship, this is not a matter of God's perfect timing either but usually the fear of the unknown or commitment.

 

[p_rehbein]

We need to get "YES" above 50%

Othewise there will have to be a Runoff!

C'mon guys n girls.............SOULMATE! uh, er, or, just vote?