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Truth7t7

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Jesus never said thee, thou, wouldst , or couldst .
Your still on the hook line and sinker, my 1769 KJV revision removed the Old English As Seen Below

Thee=The
Thou=You

Your claim the NKJV is just the KJV but easier to read is (False)

The NKJV uses a completely different Hebrew text for the Old Testament, and you have been shown the "Many" differences changing the meaning of scripture

Back to the topic
 

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Jesus never said thee, thou, wouldst , or couldst .
Jesus Didn't Speak English, A Language That Developed In The 15th-17th Century (y)

Possibly Still Developing, Do You Speak (Ebonics)? :)

I. I be God. Don't be Dissing me.
(I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any other gods before me)
I I. Don't be makin hood ornaments outta me or nothin in my crib.
(Thou shalt not have any graven images)
III. Don't be callin me for no reason - homey don't play that.
(Thou shalt not use the name of the Lord thy God in vain)
IV. Y'all betta be in church on Sunday.
(Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy)
V. Don't dis ya mama...an if ya know who ya daddy is, don't dis him neither.
(Honor thy father and mother)
VI. Don't ice ya bros.
(Thou shalt not kill)
VII. Stick to ya own woman.
(Thou shalt not commit adultery)
VIII. Don't be liftin no goods.
(Thou shalt not steal)
IX. Don't be frontin like you all that an no snitchin on ya homies.
(Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy brother)
X. Don't be eyein' ya homie's crib, ride, woman, or nothin.
(Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy brother)
 

calibob

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Jesus Didn't Speak English, A Language That Developed In The 15th-17th Century (y) Possibly Still Developing, Do You Speak (Ebonics)? :)

X. Don't be eyein' ya homie's crib, ride, woman, or nothin.
(Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy brother)
In verse 10 you misspelled nuttin' Cuz.
 

Truth7t7

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In verse 10 you misspelled nuttin' Cuz.
Bob, You always state we need to put politics aside and preach the word?

You cant preach and teach that the Eunuch in Acts 8:37 believed and confessed Jesus is the Son of God, its removed in your NIV

One of the "Only" places belief and confession is seen in My Holy Bible KJV

As is seen, the evil one isnt only stealing the election, the same is going on with Gods Words

Acts 8:37KJV
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
 

calibob

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Bob, You always state we need to put politics aside and preach the word?

You cant preach and teach that the Eunuch in Acts 8:37 believed and confessed Jesus is the Son of God, its removed in your NIV

One of the "Only" places belief and confession is seen in My Holy Bible KJV

As is seen, the evil one isnt only stealing the election, the same is going on with Gods Words

To be honest with you. Getting Trump out of the office of POTUS was the most important part of the election for me. I think that the 25th amendment should have been enacted ane enforced a couple of years ago. Never the less, let's see what you were talking about.

The BSB (Berean Study Bible) is currently my go-to Bible, not NIV or KJV. Let's go see. I will not edit but if there is a discrepancy we can check the more accurate NAS, or RSV's Stand by;

36As they traveled along the road and came to some water, the eunuch said, “Look, here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?” (c) c; TR includes 37And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may be baptized.” The eunuch replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

Oh I'm sorry let's see what TR stands for; Scrivener’s Textus Receptus & Stephanus Textus Receptus.

Now from the same web page;

New American Standard Bible
And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

King James Bible
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Young's Literal Translation
And Philip said, 'If thou dost believe out of all the heart, it is lawful;' and he answering said, 'I believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God;'

They all seems clos enough. So what's your point? Is there any translation that is 100 percent correct? Aren't there some mistakes, modifications and additions in KJV?

I myself never took the doctrinal position that the KJV was the perfect word of God. I've never joined a church that would either. Certainly you don't believe that the KJV is the Holy, entire, unaltered word of God.

FYI; Biblehub is where I source most of the texts and translations that I use. Besides the BSB, pdf I have on my Windows 10 desktop. I have an NIV Recovery bible on my dresser rather than an AA Big Book.
 

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As previously stated, you hate President Trump, a man that opposes killing the unborn (Abortion)

bob you side with the evil works of satan in your opposition to good that President Trump stands for, in that one thing alone (Murdering The Innocent Unborn, Abortion) the greatest evil upon the face of this earth, and you cant wait to see this President removed, 100% Evil in my humble opinion

I have watched your postings for months, your a liberal, and support the democratic values of the free ride (Self), what can be done for me, the poor and needy, not a concern about millions of innocent unborn humans being killed

No need to talk about differences in translations, you support removing a President that opposes murder in the 1st degree (Abortion)

"The Truth"

Quote calibob in red below:

To be honest with you. Getting Trump out of the office of POTUS was the most important part of the election for me. I think that the 25th amendment should have been enacted ane enforced a couple of years ago. Never the less, let's see what you were talking about.

The BSB (Berean Study Bible) is currently my go-to Bible, not NIV or KJV. Let's go see. I will not edit but if there is a discrepancy we can check the more accurate NAS, or RSV's Stand by;

36As they traveled along the road and came to some water, the eunuch said, “Look, here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?” (c) c; TR includes 37And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may be baptized.” The eunuch replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

Oh I'm sorry let's see what TR stands for; Scrivener’s Textus Receptus & Stephanus Textus Receptus.

Now from the same web page;

New American Standard Bible
And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."


King James Bible
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.


Young's Literal Translation
And Philip said, 'If thou dost believe out of all the heart, it is lawful;' and he answering said, 'I believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God;'


They all seems clos enough. So what's your point? Is there any translation that is 100 percent correct? Aren't there some mistakes, modifications and additions in KJV?

I myself never took the doctrinal position that the KJV was the perfect word of God. I've never joined a church that would either. Certainly you don't believe that the KJV is the Holy, entire, unaltered word of God.

FYI; Biblehub is where I source most of the texts and translations that I use. Besides the BSB, pdf I have on my Windows 10 desktop. I have an NIV Recovery bible on my dresser rather than an AA Big Book.
 

calibob

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@Truth7t7 The biggest reason that I'm so anti Trump is because I think that he's mentally ill. Not insane per say because he probably still knows right from wrong. He chooses his own way regardless without moral compass. Getting his way appears to be the main focus of his life. Here's the psycopathy.

Personality Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (PD-NOS)
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-personality...
Sep 18, 2019 · Personality disorder not otherwise specified (PD-NOS), also referred to as personality disorder NOS was a diagnostic category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV-TR). This diagnostic category was reserved for a clinically significant problem in personality functioning that did not fit into any of the other existing personality disorder categories.

  • narcissistic.
    Do you want results only for Narcisisstic?
  • a : extremely self-centered with an exaggerated sense of self-importance : marked by or characteristic of excessive admiration of or infatuation with oneself a narcissistic personality He was a very narcissistic man, not too concerned with the world.
Combined with
Histrionic personality disorder or "dramatic" personality disorders. People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and distorted self-images. For people with histrionic personality disorder, their self-esteem depends on the approval of others and does not arise from a true feeling of self-worth. They have an overwhelming desire to be noticed, and often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention. The word histrionic means "dramatic or theatrical."

A person with this disorder might also:
  • Be uncomfortable unless they are the center of attention
  • Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior
  • Shift emotions rapidly
  • Act very dramatically, as though performing before an audience, with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity
  • Be overly concerned with physical appearance
  • Constantly seek reassurance or approval
  • Be gullible and easily influenced by others
  • Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval
  • Have a low tolerance for frustration and be easily bored by routine, often beginning projects without finishing them or skipping from one event to another
  • Not think before acting
  • Make rash decisions
  • Be self-centered and rarely show concern for others
Don't those symptoms sound like Trump?
 

Truth7t7

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@Truth7t7 The biggest reason that I'm so anti Trump is because I think that he's mentally ill. Not insane per say because he probably still knows right from wrong. He chooses his own way regardless without moral compass. Getting his way appears to be the main focus of his life. Here's the psycopathy.

Personality Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (PD-NOS)
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-personality...
Sep 18, 2019 · Personality disorder not otherwise specified (PD-NOS), also referred to as personality disorder NOS was a diagnostic category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV-TR). This diagnostic category was reserved for a clinically significant problem in personality functioning that did not fit into any of the other existing personality disorder categories.

  • narcissistic.
    Do you want results only for Narcisisstic?
  • a : extremely self-centered with an exaggerated sense of self-importance : marked by or characteristic of excessive admiration of or infatuation with oneself a narcissistic personality He was a very narcissistic man, not too concerned with the world.
Combined with
Histrionic personality disorder or "dramatic" personality disorders. People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and distorted self-images. For people with histrionic personality disorder, their self-esteem depends on the approval of others and does not arise from a true feeling of self-worth. They have an overwhelming desire to be noticed, and often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention. The word histrionic means "dramatic or theatrical."

A person with this disorder might also:
  • Be uncomfortable unless they are the center of attention
  • Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior
  • Shift emotions rapidly
  • Act very dramatically, as though performing before an audience, with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity
  • Be overly concerned with physical appearance
  • Constantly seek reassurance or approval
  • Be gullible and easily influenced by others
  • Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval
  • Have a low tolerance for frustration and be easily bored by routine, often beginning projects without finishing them or skipping from one event to another
  • Not think before acting
  • Make rash decisions
  • Be self-centered and rarely show concern for others
Don't those symptoms sound like Trump?
The reason you hate President Trump, is because your a liberal

Your claim of the 25th relating to President Trump is (Fake News) just like CNN you watch everyday

President Trump is a Patriotic Hero, a defender of the innocent unborn, opposing Abortion, 1st degree murder

You can write all night, no justification for a claiming christian to oppose a President that defends the innocent unborn

Face It bob, (Your A Liberal) that hates President Trump, the line you espouse is the same (Fake News) as the (Liberals) and your one of them

If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal?

Its calibob, the liberal (y)
 

calibob

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As previously stated, you hate President Trump, a man that opposes killing the unborn (Abortion)

bob you side with the evil works of satan in your opposition to good that President Trump stands for, in that one thing alone (Murdering The Innocent Unborn, Abortion) the greatest evil upon the face of this earth, and you cant wait to see this President removed, 100% Evil in my humble opinion

I have watched your postings for months, your a liberal, and support the democratic values of the free ride (Self), what can be done for me, the poor and needy, not a concern about millions of innocent unborn humans being killed

No need to talk about differences in translations, you support removing a President that opposes murder in the 1st degree (Abortion)

"The Truth"

Quote calibob in red below:

To be honest with you. Getting Trump out of the office of POTUS was the most important part of the election for me. I think that the 25th amendment should have been enacted ane enforced a couple of years ago. Never the less, let's see what you were talking about.

The BSB (Berean Study Bible) is currently my go-to Bible, not NIV or KJV. Let's go see. I will not edit but if there is a discrepancy we can check the more accurate NAS, or RSV's Stand by;

36As they traveled along the road and came to some water, the eunuch said, “Look, here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?” (c) c; TR includes 37And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may be baptized.” The eunuch replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

Oh I'm sorry let's see what TR stands for; Scrivener’s Textus Receptus & Stephanus Textus Receptus.

Now from the same web page;

New American Standard Bible
And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."


King James Bible
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.


Young's Literal Translation
And Philip said, 'If thou dost believe out of all the heart, it is lawful;' and he answering said, 'I believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God;'


They all seems clos enough. So what's your point? Is there any translation that is 100 percent correct? Aren't there some mistakes, modifications and additions in KJV?

I myself never took the doctrinal position that the KJV was the perfect word of God. I've never joined a church that would either. Certainly you don't believe that the KJV is the Holy, entire, unaltered word of God.

FYI; Biblehub is where I source most of the texts and translations that I use. Besides the BSB, pdf I have on my Windows 10 desktop. I have an NIV Recovery bible on my dresser rather than an AA Big Book.
I've been in favor of replacing Trump with Pence for years. I never favored Biden at all. I protest the ideal that the election is either, or. My choice to oppose Trump is a choice to oppose a mentally unstable individual with access to global thermo nuclear capabilities.

I'm adopted. How dare you accuse me of supporting abortion! The president isn't in control of the Supreme Court. He's not a king. He's the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. Otherwise he's our employee, we are not his. Are you so brainwashed that you oppose speaking out against a mad man?

Do you think that the middle of the road is the John Birch society and the libertarian. party? Wasn't Animal Farm and 1984 required reading in your High School?

I didn't join one side to oppose the other. To me Socialism is an unrealistic dream, it'll never work because unless we can't take human nature, like greed, ambition and power out of the equation. Total equality will never happen as long as humans control the world.

But we can oppose both sides.
 

calibob

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The reason you hate President Trump, is because your a liberal

Your claim of the 25th relating to President Trump is (Fake News) just like CNN you watch everyday

President Trump is a Patriotic Hero, a defender of the innocent unborn, opposing Abortion, 1st degree murder

You can write all night, no justification for a claiming christian to oppose a President that defends the innocent unborn

Face It bob, (Your A Liberal) that hates President Trump, the line you espouse is the same (Fake News) as the (Liberals) and your one of them

If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal?

Its calibob, the liberal (y)
a) I oppose both sides. b) It's not my TV. What we watch is a group decision. c) Both parties are evil!
 

Truth7t7

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I've been in favor of replacing Trump with Pence for years. I never favored Biden at all. I protest the ideal that the election is either, or. My choice to oppose Trump is a choice to oppose a mentally unstable individual with access to global thermo nuclear capabilities.

I'm adopted. How dare you accuse me of supporting abortion! The president isn't in control of the Supreme Court. He's not a king. He's the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. Otherwise he's our employee, we are not his. Are you so brainwashed that you oppose speaking out against a mad man?

Do you think that the middle of the road is the John Birch society and the libertarian. party? Wasn't Animal Farm and 1984 required reading in your High School?

I didn't join one side to oppose the other. To me Socialism is an unrealistic dream, it'll never work because unless we can't take human nature, like greed, ambition and power out of the equation. Total equality will never happen as long as humans control the world.

But we can oppose both sides.
bob, You claim to be a christian?

You have only one of 2 candidates that will assume office, only 2

Biden/Harris supports killing the innocent unborn (Abortion) murder in the 1st degree

President Trump/Pence openly oppose this murder

You can roll on the ground, kick your feet, scream, how you believe President Trump is a mental case?

It's a fact, he openly opposes killing the unborn

it's a fact he nominated conservative Supreme Court justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett

It's a fact he put trade tariffs on communist China

It's a fact he built a wall to stop illegal immigration

It's a fact he renegotiated NAFTA,the great American Sell out

It's a fact he stopped the Paris Accord and World Health org

It's a fact that you hate President Trump, and spew the same (Fake News) as the Liberals, because calibob is a liberal, the shoe fits bob, wear it

President Donald J. Trump, American Patriot And Hero!
 
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We are living the great end times deception we were warned of. His own see through it as they are guided by Holy Spirit in all truth. The outward form and pew warmers are not aware, leaning on their own imperfect understanding.
was the last pandemic, the end times ?
 

calibob

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The reason you hate President Trump, is because your a liberal

Your claim of the 25th relating to President Trump is (Fake News) just like CNN you watch everyday

President Trump is a Patriotic Hero, a defender of the innocent unborn, opposing Abortion, 1st degree murder

You can write all night, no justification for a claiming christian to oppose a President that defends the innocent unborn

Face It bob, (Your A Liberal) that hates President Trump, the line you espouse is the same (Fake News) as the (Liberals) and your one of them

If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal?

Its calibob, the liberal (y)
I didn't come to my opinion about Trump by watching TV but by studying psychology. I saw Trump posing like Mussolini in 2016 and started paying attention. I didn't even watch the news much at all. In fact I had the TV cable disconnected while Obama was president.

You are certainly sound like less of a patriot than I am because you oppose the two or more party system. They were established to prevent revolutions and promote equality. Economic and social. That's why we have elections. Or do you suggest we have a conservative party and a more conservative party? Do you suggest that we revoke the liberals rights to vote?
 

calibob

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bob, You claim to be a christian?

You have only one of 2 candidates that will assume office, only 2

Biden/Harris supports killing the innocent unborn (Abortion) murder in the 1st degree

President Trump/Pence openly oppose this murder

You can roll on the ground, kick your feet, scream, how you believe President Trump is a mental case?

It's a fact, he openly opposes killing the unborn

it's a fact he nominated conservative Supreme Court justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett

It's a fact he put trade tariffs on communist China

It's a fact he built a wall to stop illegal immigration

It's a fact he renegotiated NAFTA,the great American Sell out

It's a fact he stopped the Paris Accord and World Health org

It's a fact that you hate President Trump, and spew the same (Fake News) as the Liberals, because calibob is a liberal, the shoe fits bob, wear it

President Donald J. Trump, American Patriot And Hero!
Wrong! I didn't vote for either one I boycotted the election because none of the above is not on the ballot.
 

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Sounds like he imparted Godly wisdom to both of us. Very often we can think it is our own thoughts when it is truly Holy Spirit speaking His intervention through us.
Holy Spirit has been active on earth since Pentecost, so long ago we have no frame of reference to what this world was before the inrush at Pentecost.
The Holy Spirit of God has been active on Earth from Genesis onward :geek:
 

calibob

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Jesus never said thee, thou, wouldst , or couldst .
Just for the record; I can't remember ever knowing a KJV only theology student. they all studied several translations. Heretics students always compared the English translations to Greek lexicons looking for errors..
 

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Medically exempt is exactly my excuse as well.....My doctor said so. That basically neuters the entire situation nobody can ask anything and nobody can take it any further.
Didn't the woman who was arrested at some stadium for refusing to wear her mask claim medical reasons?

I think they eventually hauled her away on charges of trespassing...
 

calibob

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Didn't the woman who was arrested at some stadium for refusing to wear her mask claim medical reasons?

I think they eventually hauled her away on charges of trespassing...
I'm going to check to see if they have a Nashville bombing suspect yet. Good morning to you. Goodnight from me. I've been up nearly 20 hours. Yee ya after dawn. TTFN.
 

Truth7t7

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Wrong! I didn't vote for either one I boycotted the election because none of the above is not on the ballot.
Your voice is silent concerning killing the unborn, (Abortion) murder in the 1st degree

I voted for Donald J. TRUMP and VP Pence, both oppose killing the unborn, and President Trump nominated and saw confirmed Supreme Court conservative Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett

It's a fact, President Trump and VP Pence openly opposes killing the unborn (Abortion)

it's a fact he nominated conservative Supreme Court justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett

It's a fact he put trade tariffs on communist China

It's a fact he built a wall to stop illegal immigration

It's a fact he renegotiated NAFTA,the great American Sell out

It's a fact he stopped the Paris Accord and World Health org

It's a fact he rebuilt our military after Obama the commie ran it into the ground

It's a fact he took out world terrorist Qassem Soleimani and Al-Baghdadi

It's a fact that you hate President Trump, and spew the same (Fake News) as the Liberals, because calibob is a liberal, the shoe fits bob, wear it

President Donald J. Trump, American Patriot And Hero!
 
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