Trumps Tariffs

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Kroogz

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I support capitalism and the free market, not government coercion.
Particularly with the Auto industry, this has all been about government coercion.For the past 60 years or so......from the left and atheists.

Save mother earth. They have no idea about Father God and His sustaining of this planet.

Their save mother earth campaign has all but destroyed our industry and manufacturing capabilities.

Trying to fix the myriad of problems the left and atheists have caused is not the government coercion. The mess we are in IS FROM government coercion.
 

DeanM

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Sooner or later the communists will be back in power. They have to be to hook up with the U.N. and bring about the one world government. Of course this is while they work to kill or imprison christians while the catholic church works on their one religion. Trump can delay it, maybe for a long time but not forever. As an old geezer I hope the delay will out live me.
 

HeIsHere

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Free market = Free trade

That means a level playing field with either no tariffs or reciprocal tariffs that balance fair trade.

You're the econ major, right?
Are you having some ego troubles? :cry:

Actually "protectionism" is the the opposite of free trade.

Here is some help..

An important economic principle is called the division of labor. It states that economic efficiency, and therefore growth, is enhanced by everyone doing what he does best.
Ron Paul.


Canada has better, cleaner milk we do it better. ;):D
 

Kroogz

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Are you having some ego troubles? :cry:

Actually "protectionism" is the the opposite of free trade.

Here is some help..

An important economic principle is called the division of labor. It states that economic efficiency, and therefore growth, is enhanced by everyone doing what he does best.
Ron Paul.


Canada has better, cleaner milk we do it better. ;):D
So why not free trade? If Canada can produce the best milk and convince me of it....I will pay their going rate.

Canada can't promote and therefore command their asking price? Why add government coercion?
 

HeIsHere

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So why not free trade? If Canada can produce the best milk and convince me of it....I will pay their going rate.

Canada can't promote and therefore command their asking price? Why add government coercion?
Do you have Canadian milk in the USA?
I really do not know I have never looked for it.
 

HeIsHere

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So why not free trade? If Canada can produce the best milk and convince me of it....I will pay their going rate.

Canada can't promote and therefore command their asking price? Why add government coercion?
Here I looked it up.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture notes on its website that under the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, which preceded Trump’s USMCA, “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada, and vice versa, faced no tariffs or quotas. The USMCA kept in place that zero-tariff, zero-quota trade while securing greater US access to the smattering of Canadian markets that are governed by supply management.

And while Trump claimed in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part,”

Canada is actually the world’s second-largest export market for U.S. agricultural products as a whole, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about US$28.4 billion worth in 2024.

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So why not free trade? If Canada can produce the best milk and convince me of it....I will pay their going rate.

Canada can't promote and therefore command their asking price? Why add government coercion?
Once we are weaned off our mother's milk, we no longer need to consume milk.
 

Kroogz

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Here I looked it up.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture notes on its website that under the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, which preceded Trump’s USMCA, “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada, and vice versa, faced no tariffs or quotas. The USMCA kept in place that zero-tariff, zero-quota trade while securing greater US access to the smattering of Canadian markets that are governed by supply management.

And while Trump claimed in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part,”

Canada is actually the world’s second-largest export market for U.S. agricultural products as a whole, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about US$28.4 billion worth in 2024.

Daniel Dale CTV
Well Trump is right. Canada puts a cap on our exports. If we go over the cap (in Ag related products) Canada charges 150 to 350 % tariffs.

And only Canadian processors can receive our exports.

American companies have done many studies that say Canadians want more of Americas exports, but their cap stops it.

If Canadians do produce the best milk, why stop Americas exports to Canada? And Canada can export their excellent milk to us.

Free trade.
 

HeIsHere

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Well Trump is right. Canada puts a cap on our exports. If we go over the cap (in Ag related products) Canada charges 150 to 350 % tariffs.

And only Canadian processors can receive our exports.

American companies have done many studies that say Canadians want more of Americas exports, but their cap stops it.

If Canadians do produce the best milk, why stop Americas exports to Canada? And Canada can export their excellent milk to us.

Free trade.
Okay.
 

Kroogz

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@HeIsHere

Don't get me wrong. I grew up on the farm and then went into construction and built milking parlors and hog confinements. We could also push each other to excel at quality while pushing quantity to the max.

We Americans have a tendency to go from quality to quantity. And if we had true free trade we would have an excellent balance.
 

HeIsHere

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Well Trump is right. Canada puts a cap on our exports. If we go over the cap (in Ag related products) Canada charges 150 to 350 % tariffs.

And only Canadian processors can receive our exports.

American companies have done many studies that say Canadians want more of Americas exports, but their cap stops it.

If Canadians do produce the best milk, why stop Americas exports to Canada? And Canada can export their excellent milk to us.

Free trade.
Trade freedom index.
Heritage Foundation

Here is the data... we score higher than the USA and in the world USA does even worse, Singapore at the highest score at 95.

Sad such a powerful country is reduced to blaming the rest of the world for all it self inflicted problems.

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HeIsHere

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Don't get me wrong. I grew up on the farm and then went into construction and built milking parlors and hog confinements. We could also push each other to excel at quality while pushing quantity to the max.

We Americans have a tendency to go from quality to quantity. And if we had true free trade we would have an excellent balance.
A trade deficit is not a bad thing for your country, you need to remember you hold the world currency.
The national debt is really the problem and global confidence in the American dollar.
 

Kroogz

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A trade deficit is not a bad thing for your country, you need to remember you hold the world currency.
The national debt is really the problem and global confidence in the American dollar.
It's a biblical issue. America is still the nation that can freely and unashamedly witness the Lord Jesus Christ in this world. I watched Pastors in Canada get dragged off of their front steps at the truckers protest.

Every other nation is suppressed or extremely suppressed from giving His message to the world.

America will be #1 and stay #1 in this world until we are suppressed from sending out this message.