Tonight's Presidential Debate

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cv5

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They really want Trump to win this go-around don't they?

(1) Collin Rugg on X: "BREAKING: Donald Trump *was* the intended target of the shots fired at Trump International Golf Club according to CNN. Agents opened fire on a man who was at the Trump International Golf Course after they saw what appeared to be a gun according to the NYP. "Officials believe https://t.co/06JKTXeMO6" / X

BREAKING: Donald Trump *was* the intended target of the shots fired at Trump International Golf Club according to CNN.

Agents opened fire on a man who was at the Trump International Golf Course after they saw what appeared to be a gun according to the NYP. "Officials believe the shots fired at Trump International Golf Club were intended for former President Donald Trump, according to sources familiar on the matter," CNN reported.

"Sources said the Secret Service spotted a suspicious individual on the Trump International Golf Course West Palm Beach, and opened fire when agents saw what appeared to be the barrel of a gun," the New York Post reported.

Senator Lindsey Graham says he spoke with Trump after the incident. "Just spoke with President Trump. He is one of the strongest people I’ve ever known. He’s in good spirits and he is more resolved than ever to save our country."

The following video filmed by @realDerekUtley shows a heavy police presence on the roads leading to the golf club.
 

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Past judgment is one thing. Future judgment allows opportunity for mercy and grace. This should be your desire and purpose.
The Judge of all the earth will always do that which is right. Trust me when I say I haven't mistaken you for Him.
Well that's where the unlearned go very wrong in thinking that the past and the OT were different judgments or were more severe than the NT and the latter judgments. In fact the NT and the future judgment is way more severe. It is severe enough that the apostles foretell in stunning accuracy how evil people will become and how they will indeed be defenders of the darkness not the light, and how God will destroy the entire world for it and throw them into hellfire when he comes to save us from them.
 

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I'm just replying to you frankly, you can assume whatever you want. Again, it's actually not that hard to not commit a sin worthy of death, the sins worthy of death are few and very extreme sins, I would not be surprised if many of the members of the forum have never committed a sin unto death. Again there's not a set of rules for believers and a set of rules for unbelievers. This is why if they forsake grace instead of forsake the wicked, well, it's far more severe for them in the NT than it is in the OT. The great thing is that it really justifies the belief in the Bible more because the NT indicates that people will become like this, incredibly wicked, the sins they do will be the very worst and at the heart of it is the sexual sins, they will become defenders of the darkness, and so they will incur the end of the world and all the wrath of Jesus in his true and glorious Judgment.
I am just replying to you frankly as well. The sin unto death applies to believers. Still, you speak as if you broke no commandments prior to being saved and have outright claimed sinners should be put to death as per the OC, when, news flash! We are under a New Covenant, and Paul, you do know who Paul is, right? Paul says we have no business judging those outside the church. You obviously disagree with that.
 

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I am just replying to you frankly as well. The sin unto death applies to believers. Still, you speak as if you broke no commandments prior to being saved and have outright claimed sinners should be put to death as per the OC, when, news flash! We are under a New Covenant, and Paul, you do know who Paul is, right? Paul says we have no business judging those outside the church. You obviously disagree with that.
No, I think you're just getting all your assumptions jumbled together incoherently just because simply you don't like that I am right for some reason, which I mean go ahead, it's not going to change anything.
 

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Vice President Kamala Harris
I have been briefed on reports of gunshots fired near former President Trump and his property in Florida, and I am glad he is safe. Violence has no place in America.

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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness


You called him a threat to democracy and a day 1 dictator. You own this.

"...but, weren't we told that "words are violence" too?"
 

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Well that's where the unlearned go very wrong in thinking that the past and the OT were different judgments or were more severe than the NT and the latter judgments. In fact the NT and the future judgment is way more severe. It is severe enough that the apostles foretell in stunning accuracy how evil people will become and how they will indeed be defenders of the darkness not the light, and how God will destroy the entire world for it and throw them into hellfire when he comes to save us from them.
You jump to alot of erroneous conclusions. Judgment in every case is horrific. But past judgment is done. Future judgment is not. And those 2 thoughts...judgment is horrific and future judgment is avoidable should lend itself to mercy on your part. Do you not have bowels of mercy at the depth of your being?
 

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They still have constitutional rights under the fifth amendment. If you deport them without a fair hearing you're violating the Constitution and have made yourself an into a domestic enemy of the Constitution of the United States of america.

You and others might not like the Constitution however your distaste for it does not give you the right to violate it.
I came into this country legally. We were told that if we broke the law we would be tossed out of the country for 10 yrs.
 

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People should be allowed to do whatever they want to their body including taking substances that may harm them. The medical doctors,pushers and drugs are not to blame it's only the drug users alone are to blame.

As cannabis has become legal alcohol use has decreased.

When given the choice people choose to hit the bong rather then the bar. Cannabis is not addictive and it's not as harmful as alcohol. Legalization has proven to be a good thing.

https://christianchat.com/christian...esidential-debate.215602/page-41#post-5364124

I guess my work is cut out for me to expose the biggest cause of death of this century.
It's a tough job, but the general public trust the big pharma directed MDs (Murderous Doctors) far more than the true God of the Bible.
These people are deceived by the false gods of medi-sin, sometimes willfully and other times innocently as children are misled to believe.
 

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@Eli1 lives a life of contentment, peace, and joy. You could learn alot from him.
I agree. Hey, I have been designing this panel... the figure (which I have modified) reminds me of @Eli1 's art preference .:D


John 14:27 ~ Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled; do not be afraid.
:)
 

SonJudgment

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You jump to alot of erroneous conclusions. Judgment in every case is horrific. But past judgment is done. Future judgment is not. And those 2 thoughts...judgment is horrific and future judgment is avoidable should lend itself to mercy on your part. Do you not have bowels of mercy at the depth of your being?
There you go flattering me again as if I were the judge, you're going to make me blush if you keep that up. No, I have the correct conclusion because it's not even really my conclusion. God's judgment will be done, it's not horrific for those that actually love God, it is of course extremely horrific for those that are his enemies. They will not avoid the judgment nor will they be able to flatter the judge, nor will he put up with any excuses, nor is he able to be lied to, nor will he have any bias, nor will he change his great and sound judgment. It's more a matter of whether you accept his judgment as I do, or if you're really just foolish enough to reject his judgment and think that will seriously change reality. Now we have gone long enough with this and dinnertime approaches, I will make a separate topic later tonight or tomorrow in the BDF where we can discuss this further without derailing the politics or seeming to be rude for not replying to you and magenta and znp.
 

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There you go flattering me again as if I were the judge, you're going to make me blush if you keep that up. No, I have the correct conclusion because it's not even really my conclusion. God's judgment will be done, it's not horrific for those that actually love God, it is of course extremely horrific for those that are his enemies. They will not avoid the judgment nor will they be able to flatter the judge, nor will he put up with any excuses, nor is he able to be lied to, nor will he have any bias, nor will he change his great and sound judgment. It's more a matter of whether you accept his judgment as I do, or if you're really just foolish enough to reject his judgment and think that will seriously change reality. Now we have gone long enough with this and dinnertime approaches, I will make a separate topic later tonight or tomorrow in the BDF where we can discuss this further without derailing the politics or seeming to be rude for not replying to you and magenta and znp.
I appreciate the discussion, but we clearly aren't on the same wavelength. Grace and peace.
 

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It's unfortunate that you don't trust the sovereignty of God and in His goodness. You pull one bad example out of thousands who have helped you. That's why you complain rather than live in an estate of thanksgiving.
@Eli1 lives a life of contentment, peace, and joy. You could learn alot from him.
What a strange response to a discussion about capitalism, corporations and taxation.
Once again you have to go all personal you and your side kick.
It is really sad.
 

Magenta

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What a strange response to a discussion about capitalism, corporations and taxation.
Once again you have to go all personal you and your side kick.
It is really sad.
Like you never do? Or pass up an opportunity to get your digs in? Try being honest for a change. It'll do you good!