This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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EleventhHour

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Imagine if the media reported how many people die each day from heart attack, cancer, aneurysm, etc... would it put the deaths due to this one strain into perspective?
None of those things are contagious.
 

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None of those things are contagious.
The point being, the number of deaths that occur due to that which is beyond peoples control. This flu is being made out to be like unto the black death with the fear complex that is being woven about it.
A commercial today claimed what is happening now in America is our new normal. A different commercial claimed, this was our new way of life.
Which leads one to think this is going to be our reality going forward.
When people have enough of being at home, with no paychecks, or no support that lets them get by, because we'll be a nation of people who are all on what amounts to welfare by definition, I think people will start to revolt. First in pockets, then in larger groups as the word spreads.
That's when we'll see where this is really intended to go. You don't change the world overnight. But this is pretty close.
 

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that is true then again not 330 million can be effected by a heart attack or having one in 12 months.
this can effect everyone at least that is what is being reported no immunity until being effected.
It is highly unlikely 330 million of citizens will be infected.
 
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It is highly unlikely 330 million of citizens will be infected.
there’s nothing to compare how fast this has moved just in months if it’s been only months that I am wondering, anything is on the table, probably a reason why I see almost every country spraying streets, spraying everything.
 
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The point being, the number of deaths that occur due to that which is beyond peoples control. This flu is being made out to be like unto the black death with the fear complex that is being woven about it.
A commercial today claimed what is happening now in America is our new normal. A different commercial claimed, this was our new way of life.
Which leads one to think this is going to be our reality going forward.
When people have enough of being at home, with no paychecks, or no support that lets them get by, because we'll be a nation of people who are all on what amounts to welfare by definition, I think people will start to revolt. First in pockets, then in larger groups as the word spreads.
That's when we'll see where this is really intended to go. You don't change the world overnight. But this is pretty close.

"Deaths occur beyond people's control" yes let's just back in time to 1917 and pretend we have no idea what a virus even is.

Still comparing apples and oranges.
...I hardly doubt that this the new normal.....no pandemic last forever.
 
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No - unfortunately, they are not.
Hey mate, have you heard of the October 2019 pandemic response exercise called Event 201? Participants were confronted with a hypothetical situation of a world outbreak of a terrible virus. .....Another drill gone live? Perhaps Elon Musk is right after all, that we are living in a simulation.
 

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A commercial today claimed what is happening now in America is our new normal. A different commercial claimed, this was our new way of life.
This is nothing but propaganda brain-washing.

The EPTB want everyone to accept it as a way of life.
 

GaryA

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Hey mate, have you heard of the October 2019 pandemic response exercise called Event 201? Participants were confronted with a hypothetical situation of a world outbreak of a terrible virus. .....Another drill gone live? Perhaps Elon Musk is right after all, that we are living in a simulation.
Yes, I know about it.

Current events are no coincidence.

Simulation?

HA!

How about 'Forced Role-Play'?
 

GaryA

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If we are living in a simulation, the programmer is a complete-and-total idiot...

:p
 

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My local area is one of those areas being hit the hardest. My job was shutdown from 4 or more confirmed cases. My local hospital has 3 floors filled with Covid 19 cases most from 2 funerals and a fish fry. They have had to open a outside ICU due to the ICU being full. A local hotel has been turned into a site to hold people who has no place to separate themselves. The governor sent out hospital 20 more respirators to help with the increase numbers. The Atlanta CDC has sent a team to investigate why our area is so high. My neighbors work at the hospital and saying this virus is no joke and these people are extremely sick. They are now sending patients to other hospitals for more room.

Our hospital of course is probably the worst around here and the city is ran by corruption while the streets are filled with gangs who doesn't care about city lockdowns.

People we know are dealing with this. One grandmother has died and another's husband is in the ICU.

Of course I say all this not to scare or worry anyone but it is reality. What makes this virus different is how contagious it is. If your hospitals get overwhelmed then your parents, grandparents, or others will not receive the care they need. This is why the lockdowns, the isolations. To slow down how many people enter the hospital. Drs and nurses are overwhelmed. A few have quit in our hospital. One created a Facebook video saying she wasn't going in the covid 19 floor due to she was the only one to take care of her kids. She quit to put her kids first.

Regardless if this was a attack, a attack gone wrong, a conspiracy to restrict freedoms, or some other evil plot. We will survive if we just keep our cool. Things will calm down and when it does, damage control will be argued in the courts, congress, our President, our local governments, and however the people respond will more than likely have a big impact on future elections.

This is temporary. I am optimistic and trust God has a plan. His will is being accomplished somehow someway. Do all you can to protect yourself and your family and past that, what you cannot control, pray.

Once the hospital's are seeing a decline, things will get back to normal. Heard a rumor that hospitals are seeing a decline but just a rumor. Either way as Benjamin Disraeli once said,
"I am prepared for the worst, but hope for the best."
 

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Well the flu illness is around 30 million each year about 100 deaths a day, around 36,500yr in the states, this causes illness to 330 million so far if not contained and continues for months the numbers isn’t hype.
The "hype" I am referring to is the overdriving dramatization and exaggeration that makes a mole hill into a mountain and a virus outbreak into the end of the world -- for the express purpose of advancing an agenda.
 
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The "hype" I am referring to is the overdriving dramatization and exaggeration that makes a mole hill into a mountain and a virus outbreak into the end of the world -- for the express purpose of advancing an agenda.
the end of the world is a bit much if there’s media that is claiming that, a virus isn’t going to stop the sun from rising.
 

Nehemiah6

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The contained nation; USA. I think we're seeing our new normal.
No. This does not have to be the *new normal*. But it will take tremendous courage on the part of President Trump to say "Enough is enough. We all need to sit down, take a deep breath, and examine the conspiracy behind this".

The numbers that are being thrown around are WILD GUESSES or WILFUL DECEPTION. The attacks on the cures is another indicator that people are plotting behind the scenes to destroy America. And Mr Trump fell right into their trap by (1) praising the President of China instead of sending him a severe warning, (2) allowing his enemies to control the narrative, rather than taking full control.

At the moment here are the figures from Johns Hopkins interactive map (hoping that JHU is not playing any games):

TOTAL CONFIRMED CASES WORLDWIDE 665,164
TOTAL RECOVERED CASES WORLDWIDE 140,225
TOTAL DEATHS WORLDWIDE 30,852

No one knows how many UNCONFIRMED cases have occurred. One estimate says 6-7 times the number of confirmed cases. So using that figure here is what we get: 7 x 665,164 = 4,656,148

30,852/4,656,148 = 0.0066

Now if we subtract the recovered cases from this, the numbers are even less.

In contrast, deaths by car accidents worldwide are enormously greater.
 
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No. This does not have to be the *new normal*. But it will take tremendous courage on the part of President Trump to say "Enough is enough. We all need to sit down, take a deep breath, and examine the conspiracy behind this".

The numbers that are being thrown around are WILD GUESSES or WILFUL DECEPTION. The attacks on the cures is another indicator that people are plotting behind the scenes to destroy America. And Mr Trump fell right into their trap by (1) praising the President of China instead of sending him a severe warning, (2) allowing his enemies to control the narrative, rather than taking full control.

At the moment here are the figures from Johns Hopkins interactive map (hoping that JHU is not playing any games):

TOTAL CONFIRMED CASES WORLDWIDE 665,164
TOTAL RECOVERED CASES WORLDWIDE 140,225
TOTAL DEATHS WORLDWIDE 30,852

No one knows how many UNCONFIRMED cases have occurred. One estimate says 6-7 times the number of confirmed cases. So using that figure here is what we get: 7 x 665,164 = 4,656,148

30,852/4,656,148 = 0.0066

Now if we subtract the recovered cases from this, the numbers are even less.

In contrast, deaths by car accidents worldwide are enormously greater.
what would 8.8 billion infected look like?

is the total death number higher than being stated?

considering these numbers below click every second.

world wide
14,194,508Deaths this year
22,014Deaths today
 

Nehemiah6

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what would 8.8 billion infected look like?
Since you have compared total deaths (presumably from all causes) with COVID-19 deaths, they are a very small fraction -- 0.002.

The panic is purely political. Proper precautions and quarantines, without all the selfish hoarding and panic buying, would be sufficient.
 

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be no worse than that of a “severe seasonal influenza.” In an exceptionally bad flu season, the case fatality rate is about 0.1%, the authors write.

https://www.infowars.com/dr-fauci-concedes-coronavirus-death-rate-like-very-bad-flu/
 
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Since you have compared total deaths (presumably from all causes) with COVID-19 deaths, they are a very small fraction -- 0.002.

The panic is purely political. Proper precautions and quarantines, without all the selfish hoarding and panic buying, would be sufficient.
it’s said that no one has immunity until the body forms antibodies for the virus, and it’s said it has mutated once already and might be a reason for the increase in age groups. there might be a couple of scenarios either a vaccine is created to stop the growth of the virus or herd immunity will kick in at 60% population or the virus mutates a few more times becoming more infectious over takes the herd, or it’s said a virus that needs a host to survive will lessson the deaths over time to survive in a environment among humans but it is already in animals so would there be a reason to keep humans as hosts among a virus world for a long time. really I don’t think they know anything for sure about anything at this point.