The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

[JohnDB]

If we want to be silly about this save a jar of peanut butter learn to make figure 4 traps for ground squirrels.Just a little on a stick their pull the stick and the weight will fall on them.theirs enough meat on them. for protein.

Squirrel and dumplings.... maybe even some perogies to go with...

 

[rayzor]

You guys are nuts! Get a fishing pole and catch fish, no easier way to get high quality protein. Also, we are told that a third of the fish will die, pick them up off the beach and get a net to scoop them up as they float on the water, just like road kill and as long as you are prompt they will still hold together as you pick them up.

Or you could do what the Indians did and use the dead fish for fertilizer and instead eat your peanut butter.

Or even better you could do what the Bible says and put your trust in the Lord there is no salvation other than Jesus.

we r the 3rd and or the fallen angles of the fish it matches the 3rd that fell from heaven.if a food shortest happens from a secular point of view. you would need guns and to covet maybe friends the strongest survive, and or the luckiest.Just a thought those factions add up to more then the whole.

 

[Handyman62]

Where I live hunters abound and currently with hunting only allowed certain times of the year there are plenty of game animals to be had. Throw in a severe food shortage and game will dry up quicker that a mud puddle in a drought. I bet a lot of pets end up on menu after that.

 

[rayzor]

Where I live hunters abound and currently with hunting only allowed certain times of the year there are plenty of game animals to be had. Throw in a severe food shortage and game will dry up quicker that a mud puddle in a drought. I bet a lot of pets end up on menu after that.

Those saint better walk on water.and i'm not talking about frozen kind.

 

[ZNP]

The Chinese real estate market is a $62 trillion market. It will definitely take a big hit with this collapse. However, as long as no one is highly leveraged or using their real estate as collateral for other loans it shouldn't cause a complete economic meltdown.

 

[ZNP]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ippling-car-repairs-worst-since-world-war-ii/

"Oil filters, wiper blades, brake parts, engine parts, even entire engines are in short supply according to Costello. The report closed with a warning that tires could be in short supply this winter due to a rubber shortage."

So truck shortage can be because of vaccine mandate, it can also be because the truck needs repairs. Our entire economy is set up to run on trucks.

Are we going to have trucks that are in disrepair on the highways? Trucks with bald tires?

 

[Godsgirl83]

They keep telling us there is a shortage coming. I haven't seen it yet locally but somewhere along the line people are gonna realize the holidays are upon us and they are out of luck. I just sense that we are in for some hard times ahead in America, like hasn't been seen in years.

I've never considered myself a prepper but I went out and got all the dry goods for Thanksgiving and Christmas meals. I also got all the baking goods last night. Then hubby and I bought a freezer. I'm not panicked, I just the Lord telling us to prepare. I did the same for my parents. So is anyone else feeling the same way? We see the ships in the harbor and no movement. I think the holiday season is going to get bad quickly. I don't want to be out there fighting for TP with a mob of crazy people. But then, I always like to be prepared, I hate sitting and worrying and doing nothing. I figure if I prepare I can help someone else that needs it. Anyone else making plans or you don't think this is serious enough to prepare?

So for me, I've been a prepper, well at least since getting married. My in laws are older, born during the Great Depression and raised to be prepared, which mother in law passed onto hubs. When we first got married we got our deep freeze, and that's a big help. When meat goes on sale I stock up. After 15 years together, I kind of have a pretty good idea of what we like to make. Super cheap deal on pork shoulders in the "off season" of winter makes for one tasty summer BBQ with out the summer spike in prices. FOOD SAVER machines and bags are a friend, and in my opinion a must have. We also know that our Thanksgiving menu pretty much stays the same year to year, so I've been able to get what I need for that (minus the fresh produce). That gives me a peace of mind, not so much because of the so called soon to be shortages, but more because it means I won't have to spend that time out shopping with the "holiday rush" Despite the fact that it stresses me out, I almost always end up doing so.

I don't feel panicked, despite all that is going on and being said. Jesus brings a peace that passes understanding, I've experienced that more the past year and a half/ 2 years than ever before in my life. I had a lot going on before the shutdowns, and wasn't listening to news enough to know/realize something was about to happen, though I did have an urge to go do my stock up shopping, I was busy with a lot of things and kept putting it off. All I really knew was that people were going nuts over toilet paper. But between what was left in our house (actually you'd be surprised with what you can spontaneously throw together with the odds and ends hiding in the back of the pantry and bottom of the deep freeze) and what was in the kitchen of the elderly family members we cared for during that time we were able to make due. There was a period of almost 2 weeks (just before stores started becoming stocked again) that I realized stuff was dangerously low and panic tried to set in, but I remember stories from elders of how God always provided in their times of need, and learned myself that He still does, and during those few weeks of low almost out supply He did.

So how does this:

I've noticed the creatures in our yard (birds, squirrels chipmunks, just to name a few) are busier gathering and storing right now than I have ever noticed them being in past years.

tie in with shortages?

Well, maybe not by much. But like I said, I've witnessed the critters working to store food more than I have in the past and it just leads me to wonder (especially with all the stranger than normal weather this year) what the winter might be like. Animals seem to have a natural built in system to know just how to prepare. Watching them just makes me want to make sure we're stocked up and supplied, in the possible event that due to weather we can't get to the store.


But after the "Great Toilet Paper Famine" I just can't help but wonder if "they" are trying to fear people into going out to buy, buy, buy now BEFORE holidays sale prices. Just my thought. I don't know, but I'm prepared/preparing scamdemic or not simply because that is my families nature to do so.

 

[JohnDB]

A word about deep freezers....

My wife saw the bottom of ours yesterday and began to panic. There hasn't been any good prices for foods lately (what there is of them) and I've been holding off buying anything much except for the perishable items or high use items like coffee and creamer.

But the storing of foods of about 9 or more months worth at a time is about as normal as it gets. People have been doing so for thousands of years...at least 6-7.(however long people have been around)

Abraham did it...so did Adam and Eve and their kids. Noah obviously did it for the Ark. Used to be the standard for people living in rural locations because the local trading post wasn't likely to have much available anyway... even if you did have cash money to spend.

I have an extremely diverse and huge menu that I will use to cook from...much broader range of food we will prepare and consume regularly than most people. From paella to perogies...and all points going through the alphabet at least three times.
Just one of the hazards of being a professionally trained chef.

And because of this...there's never been adequate supplies in the grocery stores before... certainly isn't going to be any now. Amazon has been a big help but not always...fresh crop of clipped Saffron from Iran isn't exactly cheap on Amazon. (I got a source) Fresh vanilla beans from Tahiti? Madagascar green peppercorns? Star Anise from PRC...Blue Hare from Ireland? Usually the more specialized the stuff the more specialized the price when I once got all this stuff for dirt cheap prices.

I just have learned to settle for what is available and make do with whatever I can get my hands on. Even if it's just cabbage and tomatoes.

 

[kaylagrl]

A word about deep freezers....

My wife saw the bottom of ours yesterday and began to panic. There hasn't been any good prices for foods lately (what there is of them) and I've been holding off buying anything much except for the perishable items or high use items like coffee and creamer.

But the storing of foods of about 9 or more months worth at a time is about as normal as it gets. People have been doing so for thousands of years...at least 6-7.(however long people have been around)

Abraham did it...so did Adam and Eve and their kids. Noah obviously did it for the Ark. Used to be the standard for people living in rural locations because the local trading post wasn't likely to have much available anyway... even if you did have cash money to spend.

I have an extremely diverse and huge menu that I will use to cook from...much broader range of food we will prepare and consume regularly than most people. From paella to perogies...and all points going through the alphabet at least three times.
Just one of the hazards of being a professionally trained chef.

And because of this...there's never been adequate supplies in the grocery stores before... certainly isn't going to be any now. Amazon has been a big help but not always...fresh crop of clipped Saffron from Iran isn't exactly cheap on Amazon. (I got a source) Fresh vanilla beans from Tahiti? Madagascar green peppercorns? Star Anise from PRC...Blue Hare from Ireland? Usually the more specialized the stuff the more specialized the price when I once got all this stuff for dirt cheap prices.

I just have learned to settle for what is available and make do with whatever I can get my hands on. Even if it's just cabbage and tomatoes.

Oh would I like a peek at your recipe books!! I like to cook and love to bake. The only thing is that hubby doesn't like left overs. I grew up on that. You didn't turn your nose up to food. I do understand certain things don't make for good left overs. I send the left overs to my parents so at least the food isn't wasted. My uncle just wrote from home (Canada) and said gas is 7 bucks a gallon where he is. No way of preparing for that. Just do my best and leave the rest in God's hands.

 

[JohnDB]

Oh would I like a peek at your recipe books!! I like to cook and love to bake. The only thing is that hubby doesn't like left overs. I grew up on that. You didn't turn your nose up to food. I do understand certain things don't make for good left overs. I send the left overs to my parents so at least the food isn't wasted. My uncle just wrote from home (Canada) and said gas is 7 bucks a gallon where he is. No way of preparing for that. Just do my best and leave the rest in God's hands.

Recipe books? I got a few. Most of what I do is by twisting my own bent on the recipes in those books. My wife made me some new recipe cards so I can write stuff down and quit trying to remember it all from scratch and try to relearn what I learned from the last time I made something...
I'm getting old and forgetful...that's the problem. Not as quick as I once was. I keep forgetting to write stuff down too. I was doing a good tiramisu... nicely balanced for the play of flavors. The coffee, rum, cocoa powder all playing the melody line of the base symphony off the marscapone cream cheese....with the ladyfingers offering some texture balance...but I can't remember the recipe off the top of my head. Oh well...there's always next time.

Once had the creme brulee recipe worked out too. Forgotten it. So the Burnt sugar would be a perfect balance to the overly rich custard. Didn't write it down either. None of the recipes worked either except for mine.

Caramel I think that I wrote it down for the truffles...

Cookies.... well the newest addition which was a success was the dried cherries and white chocolate chip...I'm not sure whether I did write them down or not. They were good... maybe I'll remember in time for this year's Christmas.

It's all cooking from the heart...my passion and training carrying me to create. Hard to stop and write it down in the middle of it all.

 

[ZNP]

EverGrande $300 billion in debt, the 23rd is the day they officially default. The housing market makes up 29% of GDP, not only so but 70% of Chinese assets are tied up in real estate. In China house prices are 40 times higher than people's income. This would be like a person in the US whose income is $100k owning a house with a price of $4 million.

Home sale values are down 16% in the month of September and a 19% drop in August! The Chinese housing market is worth $62 trillion!

Evergrande's sales plunged 93% in September!

 

[kaylagrl]

Recipe books? I got a few. Most of what I do is by twisting my own bent on the recipes in those books. My wife made me some new recipe cards so I can write stuff down and quit trying to remember it all from scratch and try to relearn what I learned from the last time I made something...
I'm getting old and forgetful...that's the problem. Not as quick as I once was. I keep forgetting to write stuff down too. I was doing a good tiramisu... nicely balanced for the play of flavors. The coffee, rum, cocoa powder all playing the melody line of the base symphony off the marscapone cream cheese....with the ladyfingers offering some texture balance...but I can't remember the recipe off the top of my head. Oh well...there's always next time.

Once had the creme brulee recipe worked out too. Forgotten it. So the Burnt sugar would be a perfect balance to the overly rich custard. Didn't write it down either. None of the recipes worked either except for mine.

Caramel I think that I wrote it down for the truffles...

Cookies.... well the newest addition which was a success was the dried cherries and white chocolate chip...I'm not sure whether I did write them down or not. They were good... maybe I'll remember in time for this year's Christmas.

It's all cooking from the heart...my passion and training carrying me to create. Hard to stop and write it down in the middle of it all.

Of course, a true chef wouldn't be following someone else's recipe. People like me follow the recipe, although I do go a different way sometimes. Sounds like it would be easier if you could simply record what you're doing rather than taking the time to write it down. My aunt is a chef and she's Danish. So she doesn't cook "American" so to speak. She asked if I wanted some of her recipe books and I said I'd love them. She gave me a bag packed with magazines and vintage cook books. Don't know if I'll ever use them but it was nice of her to give them to me.

I like to bake for Christmas but we don't have a big family and my nephews are at the age where they won't try anything new. I did manage to get the oldest to try carrot cake and he found that he liked it. Problem was I turned around and half the cake was gone. smh I made apple butter some time back, was very proud of myself until hubby said he doesn't like apple butter. Over to my parents it went. I wish I knew the ins and outs of canning. My grandmother use to do it, but she's long since passed.

 

[ZNP]

Of course, a true chef wouldn't be following someone else's recipe. People like me follow the recipe, although I do go a different way sometimes. Sounds like it would be easier if you could simply record what you're doing rather than taking the time to write it down. My aunt is a chef and she's Danish. So she doesn't cook "American" so to speak. She asked if I wanted some of her recipe books and I said I'd love them. She gave me a bag packed with magazines and vintage cook books. Don't know if I'll ever use them but it was nice of her to give them to me.

I like to bake for Christmas but we don't have a big family and my nephews are at the age where they won't try anything new. I did manage to get the oldest to try carrot cake and he found that he liked it. Problem was I turned around and half the cake was gone. smh I made apple butter some time back, was very proud of myself until hubby said he doesn't like apple butter. Over to my parents it went. I wish I knew the ins and outs of canning. My grandmother use to do it, but she's long since passed.

Most of the truly exotic recipes are created during famines, that is when people are willing to be truly adventurous in what they eat. Snails, frogs, bugs, you are about to see a world of possibilities.

 

[JohnDB]

Of course, a true chef wouldn't be following someone else's recipe. People like me follow the recipe, although I do go a different way sometimes. Sounds like it would be easier if you could simply record what you're doing rather than taking the time to write it down. My aunt is a chef and she's Danish. So she doesn't cook "American" so to speak. She asked if I wanted some of her recipe books and I said I'd love them. She gave me a bag packed with magazines and vintage cook books. Don't know if I'll ever use them but it was nice of her to give them to me.

I like to bake for Christmas but we don't have a big family and my nephews are at the age where they won't try anything new. I did manage to get the oldest to try carrot cake and he found that he liked it. Problem was I turned around and half the cake was gone. smh I made apple butter some time back, was very proud of myself until hubby said he doesn't like apple butter. Over to my parents it went. I wish I knew the ins and outs of canning. My grandmother use to do it, but she's long since passed.

There are some things that are always classic....hang on to those cook books PLEASE! They have a character to them that is absent from the online recipes.

I use Escoffier a lot and Gastronomic on occasion too. Also 5th edition revised of the Professional Chef (the one with the group of students in it.... for a reason....I'm one of them....we made it inside because we had clean uniforms just issued that day or the day before....can't remember 30 years ago)

But I do Christmas cookies every year...over 1,000 of them.... nothing super special but just a bunch. Usually Toll House is the big favorite. Chocolate chip are Over half to ⅔ of the ones grabbed first. Also blank gingerbread houses so kids can have a party decorating them.

But baking and giving cookies at Christmas is a lost pastime almost forgotten...help an old guy out and bring it back eh?

And it's a thing that is missing from today's electronic and latest gadget world. I usually get between 18-20 cookies per batch. And after doing so many batches just to give away... you can Excell at it over and above anyone.
Just saying...it's good to do.

 

[kaylagrl]

There are some things that are always classic....hang on to those cook books PLEASE! They have a character to them that is absent from the online recipes.

I use Escoffier a lot and Gastronomic on occasion too. Also 5th edition revised of the Professional Chef (the one with the group of students in it.... for a reason....I'm one of them....we made it inside because we had clean uniforms just issued that day or the day before....can't remember 30 years ago)

But I do Christmas cookies every year...over 1,000 of them.... nothing super special but just a bunch. Usually Toll House is the big favorite. Chocolate chip are Over half to ⅔ of the ones grabbed first. Also blank gingerbread houses so kids can have a party decorating them.

But baking and giving cookies at Christmas is a lost pastime almost forgotten...help an old guy out and bring it back eh?

And it's a thing that is missing from today's electronic and latest gadget world. I usually get between 18-20 cookies per batch. And after doing so many batches just to give away... you can Excell at it over and above anyone.
Just saying...it's good to do.

In a Covid world I don't know who would take them. My grandmother use to do so much baking and cooking. The little kids in the neighborhood loved her and she would feed them, I'm sure many of them, that was the only meal they had that day. I don't know that she ever went for proper training but she did cook for a restaurant in her younger years. She literally could make enough food to feed an army, and she often had people coming and going at her place. I remember there was always something being cooked or baked. I miss those days. My mother use to do quite a bit of cooking too but she took cancer last year and is still recovering. It's kind of left me alone to make the holiday meals and it makes me a little sad. I wish we had a bigger family. Pre- Covid Mom and Dad would always invite someone from the church that didn't have a family or their family was too far away. One year our church went caroling to the seniors homes and people shut in, they were so grateful, I was in my mid-teens and was surprised it meant so much to them. All those old traditions are passing away, I don't know that this generation cares or understands how much wisdom and information their grandparents and parents hold. And how valuable what they have to share really is. I will look into cookie giving and see if there is any interest. And the recipe books are in safe keeping. I believe that's why my aunt gave them to me, and not her own daughter. She knew I wouldn't toss them.

 

[Godsgirl83]

I wish I knew the ins and outs of canning. My grandmother use to do it, but she's long since passed.

I'm trying to learn that myself. Thankfully one good thing with the world wide web is we have near unlimited access to "classes", with videos for nearly anything you can imagine wanting to learn. Down side (for me) I learn better hands on, and I need to ask the questions right away while working on it.

My husband once asked his mom for some recipes, she just gave him a blank look and said "I can't. It's all up here" pointing to her head. Thankfully she did write many down through the years (I think she forgot about them), sadly other family members helped those recipes cards grow legs and walk away through the years. Hubs finds recipes sometimes in older cookbooks and says "Mom use to make that" so I give it a go. A few have been winners and "even better" She went Home a few years ago (she was in a nursing home, so at least it happened before Covid) We made some of the copy cat recipes for my father in law. The look on his face while reminiscing............
PRICELESS.

The recipes I use the most I am trying to get gathered and at least written/saved on a memory stick/card. I'd like to start taking photos as each fave meal is made to put into a book for my kids along with the recipes.

 

[kaylagrl]

Most of the truly exotic recipes are created during famines, that is when people are willing to be truly adventurous in what they eat. Snails, frogs, bugs, you are about to see a world of possibilities.

Oh boy. I'm about to become super model thin. lol I remember a sweet missionary friend of our family telling how when she went overseas she was invited to supper. Of course you cannot offend your hosts. When she went into the kitchen with the lady of the house she had a chicken in the pot with beak, claws, legs all still attached. It was like the bird was looking at her. lol She did manage to get her meal down, don't know that I could be that successful.

 

[JohnDB]

In a Covid world I don't know who would take them. My grandmother use to do so much baking and cooking. The little kids in the neighborhood loved her and she would feed them, I'm sure many of them, that was the only meal they had that day. I don't know that she ever went for proper training but she did cook for a restaurant in her younger years. She literally could make enough food to feed an army, and she often had people coming and going at her place. I remember there was always something being cooked or baked. I miss those days. My mother use to do quite a bit of cooking too but she took cancer last year and is still recovering. It's kind of left me alone to make the holiday meals and it makes me a little sad. I wish we had a bigger family. Pre- Covid Mom and Dad would always invite someone from the church that didn't have a family or their family was too far away. One year our church went caroling to the seniors homes and people shut in, they were so grateful, I was in my mid-teens and was surprised it meant so much to them. All those old traditions are passing away, I don't know that this generation cares or understands how much wisdom and information their grandparents and parents hold. And how valuable what they have to share really is. I will look into cookie giving and see if there is any interest. And the recipe books are in safe keeping. I believe that's why my aunt gave them to me, and not her own daughter. She knew I wouldn't toss them.

What my wife and I have been doing is getting platters and plates from dollar tree(nobody really looks at the plates anyway...they are eyeballing the cookies) and wrapping them up with first plastic wrap and then decorative cellophane....tying them up with some ribbon and delivering them around and seeing people on their front porch for a minute...giving them messages that they aren't forgotten, they are loved, and Merry Christmas!

We don't go inside....and last year we even got to talk to a couple people who were sick at the time. They still were extremely appreciative and a few were brought to tears over it all.

It's cookies. I grew out my beard and got a pipe... hearing small children asking if I was the real Santa made it all worth it.

Don't sweat the Covid for front porch visits. They don't last long and keep back by 6 feet...mask if you need to.

It makes great Christmas presents for all of your friends. And since there's about 20 cookies that will fit on a plate... So few do it....and by the point you get good you will have perfect cookies....no frisbees with chocolate lumps or piles of dough with burnt bottoms, raw middles, and barely cooked tops. You will be way beyond that by the end of the day. You do something like 30 batches and you get the measuring and timing for everything perfect. Photo shoot quality.

 

[Godsgirl83]

getting platters and plates from dollar tree

actually some of the clear plastic serving plates from there are quite pretty. Cut to look like a nice crystal platter design.

 

[kaylagrl]

What my wife and I have been doing is getting platters and plates from dollar tree(nobody really looks at the plates anyway...they are eyeballing the cookies) and wrapping them up with first plastic wrap and then decorative cellophane....tying them up with some ribbon and delivering them around and seeing people on their front porch for a minute...giving them messages that they aren't forgotten, they are loved, and Merry Christmas!

We don't go inside....and last year we even got to talk to a couple people who were sick at the time. They still were extremely appreciative and a few were brought to tears over it all.

It's cookies. I grew out my beard and got a pipe... hearing small children asking if I was the real Santa made it all worth it.

Don't sweat the Covid for front porch visits. They don't last long and keep back by 6 feet...mask if you need to.

It makes great Christmas presents for all of your friends. And since there's about 20 cookies that will fit on a plate... So few do it....and by the point you get good you will have perfect cookies....no frisbees with chocolate lumps or piles of dough with burnt bottoms, raw middles, and barely cooked tops. You will be way beyond that by the end of the day. You do something like 30 batches and you get the measuring and timing for everything perfect. Photo shoot quality.

My sister who is scared to gain an ounce and works out feverishly will break down once a year for the peanut butter balls that I make. I dip them by hand but last Christmas hubby said he was gaining too much weight and didn't want me to make any. My sister got wind of it and threatened me that I better make them and don't dare listen to hubby. lol