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Wales says they're getting a spike in Covid cases because they vaxxed earlier than most countries and the vax is waning so quickly.

https://nation.cymru/news/immunity-...-faster-vaccination-programme-drakeford-says/

So, to all those who can't hear in the back...it's NOT an effective vaccine if it only (allegedly) protects for 6 months!!


Here in the US, boosters will more than likely be required every 5-6 months, especially since Biden is requiring businesses to force the jab on employees and "fully vaccinated" is a fluctuating term.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...vid-vaccine-mandate-until-after-holidays.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ax...ate-5c2312d9-64f4-4bb7-a289-04c00889a573.html
It is worse than that. You are not protected from certain variants with the vaccine and right now those variants are widespread and the most prevalent because of the vaccine. So although it might have protected people for six months a year ago it won't protect you at all today.
 

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These nurses and Dr's were good enough, before the jab to risk their lives and treat folks but now, for some reason, they're a threat to the medical community. What a backwards world we live in!

 

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Um, sorry, but no. Sadly, kids have always been hurt, tortured, and killed throughout the history of earth and haven't been raptured away. This won't be any different. Parents just need to stand up and protect their kids against the jab. The problem is many have been brainwashed to believe the jab will save us all. sigh.

Also...No man knows the DAY nor the hour.
 

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Um, sorry, but no. Sadly, kids have always been hurt, tortured, and killed throughout the history of earth and haven't been raptured away. This won't be any different. Parents just need to stand up and protect their kids against the jab. The problem is many have been brainwashed to believe the jab will save us all. sigh.

Also...No man knows the DAY nor the hour.
I think his point is he is trying to understand the verse about the dragon wanting to devour the child as soon as it is born in Revelation 12.

I find it strange that you would believe no one knows the day or the hour and yet you are sure he is wrong. If you don't know the day or the hour as you contend it seems you wouldn't know one way or the other with what he is saying. My position is I also am interested in understanding Revelation 12 and am interested in considering his point that God will step in to deliver the kids. I don't think that it fits, but I am certainly not as sure as you are.
 

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Personally I have seen an interesting correlation between the ten plagues in Egypt with what has been happening the world recently.

1. The pandemic turned the water of the Nile (signifying their economy) to blood. Bodies piled up and we had to shut down business.

2. Frogs -- this is like all those junky little things you get, t shirts at a concert, some trinket from vacation, etc. These were the first businesses to go bust due to to the shutdown.

3. BLM protests were like lice or gnats. Annoying but not that big a deal.

4. Antifa riots were like the flies, they stung, they hurt, they caused real damage.

5. Livestock is the big industry, and the pestilence we have seen is this "woke culture" along with Cancel culture. MLB moving all star game to Denver, NBA cancelling playoff game because of perceived injustice to Jacob Blake. As a result ratings for NBA, MLB, NFL etc are down 40%. Many other businesses suffering too.

6. Boils -- this is where we caught them in their lies. They lied about the the pandemic, boils all over their face, they lied about Hunter Biden's laptop, lies all over their face, "Let's go Brandon" is pointing out they have lies all over their face. CNN has seen their ratings drop 80%. The mainstream media is no longer mainstream, instead they are the "legacy media".

7. Thunderstorm of hail and fire -- Earthquake and volcanic activity is up 100 fold. Floods and fires are now a daily occurrence.

8. Locusts -- The vaccine mandate is stripping these businesses bare. Airlines cancelling 2,000 flights in a single day. Firehouses shutting down because of the mandate, people in every industry leaving because of it.

9. Darkness for three days -- This is where we are at now, we can only speculate what this will be.

10. Death of the firstborn -- this was retribution because they had killed the Israelis firstborn years earlier. Could this vaccine mandate be the final nail in the coffin for "Egypt"?
 

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I think his point is he is trying to understand the verse about the dragon wanting to devour the child as soon as it is born in Revelation 12.

I find it strange that you would believe no one knows the day or the hour and yet you are sure he is wrong. If you don't know the day or the hour as you contend it seems you wouldn't know one way or the other with what he is saying. My position is I also am interested in understanding Revelation 12 and am interested in considering his point that God will step in to deliver the kids. I don't think that it fits, but I am certainly not as sure as you are.
True, I could be wrong. But I'm not out "prophesying" when Christ will return. So when it doesn't happen, we'll see this guy is false. 🤷‍♀️

I also don't believe we'll be raptured away but that we will all have to go through the tribulation, so that, I suppose, makes me feel confident that nothing will happen tonight.
 

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Personally I have seen an interesting correlation between the ten plagues in Egypt with what has been happening the world recently.

1. The pandemic turned the water of the Nile (signifying their economy) to blood. Bodies piled up and we had to shut down business.

2. Frogs -- this is like all those junky little things you get, t shirts at a concert, some trinket from vacation, etc. These were the first businesses to go bust due to to the shutdown.

3. BLM protests were like lice or gnats. Annoying but not that big a deal.

4. Antifa riots were like the flies, they stung, they hurt, they caused real damage.

5. Livestock is the big industry, and the pestilence we have seen is this "woke culture" along with Cancel culture. MLB moving all star game to Denver, NBA cancelling playoff game because of perceived injustice to Jacob Blake. As a result ratings for NBA, MLB, NFL etc are down 40%. Many other businesses suffering too.

6. Boils -- this is where we caught them in their lies. They lied about the the pandemic, boils all over their face, they lied about Hunter Biden's laptop, lies all over their face, "Let's go Brandon" is pointing out they have lies all over their face. CNN has seen their ratings drop 80%. The mainstream media is no longer mainstream, instead they are the "legacy media".

7. Thunderstorm of hail and fire -- Earthquake and volcanic activity is up 100 fold. Floods and fires are now a daily occurrence.

8. Locusts -- The vaccine mandate is stripping these businesses bare. Airlines cancelling 2,000 flights in a single day. Firehouses shutting down because of the mandate, people in every industry leaving because of it.

9. Darkness for three days -- This is where we are at now, we can only speculate what this will be.

10. Death of the firstborn -- this was retribution because they had killed the Israelis firstborn years earlier. Could this vaccine mandate be the final nail in the coffin for "Egypt"?

Interesting. A stretch, but interesting.

I've always thought Revelation was kind of repeating those 10 plagues of Exodus. Wormwood ruining the water...or maybe the burning mountain that turns the seas to blood, darkness from the sun turning black, hail (mixed with fire and blood), scorpions from the deep causing bodily affliction like the flies did...

Or maybe its the 2 witnesses who will "...have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will." Revelation 11:6 that will complete the picture.
 

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True, I could be wrong. But I'm not out "prophesying" when Christ will return. So when it doesn't happen, we'll see this guy is false. 🤷‍♀️

I also don't believe we'll be raptured away but that we will all have to go through the tribulation, so that, I suppose, makes me feel confident that nothing will happen tonight.
How exactly is someone supposed to study the prophesies with your third rail doctrine of being a false prophet if he is wrong. For all we know you have made a mistake at some point in your life. Maybe you once misunderstood a doctrine of the Bible.
 

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How exactly is someone supposed to study the prophesies with your third rail doctrine of being a false prophet if he is wrong. For all we know you have made a mistake at some point in your life. Maybe you once misunderstood a doctrine of the Bible.

I'm sure I have. However, I'm not "crying from the youtube rooftop" that "thus and such will happen at THIS" time. If a person is going to make such a bold claim, they better be darn sure Yahweh actually told them so!

And I'm not saying we can't study the prophesies. Not sure why you're conflating studying the Word to bearing false witness/falsely prophesying.

If we're not raptured tonight, are you willing to admit that youtuber is falsley prophesying?
 

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I'm sure I have. However, I'm not "crying from the youtube rooftop" that "thus and such will happen at THIS" time. If a person is going to make such a bold claim, they better be darn sure Yahweh actually told them so!

And I'm not saying we can't study the prophesies. Not sure why you're conflating studying the Word to bearing false witness/falsely prophesying.

If we're not raptured tonight, are you willing to admit that youtuber is falsley prophesying?
What exactly in his video do you have an issue with?
 

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What exactly in his video do you have an issue with?
His tone of voice..."Could it BE we'll be raptured TONIGHT?" He's not really asking a question, he's basically saying he believes we'll be raptured tonight.

I have a problem with that because he can't possibly know and the way he phrases it almost makes it sound like God is wrong if we're NOT raptured tonight because, "The children!".

As an aside, friends, family, and even myself have speculated on things that "could have" happened or will happen, based on the Bible. But we don't spout our speculations as fact, which is what this guy is doing. When you have a platform where you can reach a lot of people, you have to be careful not to deceive the listeners or add to doctrine, which this guy is unintentionally doing when he says that because today is the anniversary of Get Off the Ark Day, it means we'll be raptured away because "as in the days of Noah..."

Anyway, that's my take on it. Sorry if my skepticism is irritating. Guess we'll see if he's right in his insinuations by tomorrow, eh?
 

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His tone of voice..."Could it BE we'll be raptured TONIGHT?" He's not really asking a question, he's basically saying he believes we'll be raptured tonight.
That is known as the doctrine of imminence, fundamental to the vast majority of Christians.

I have a problem with that because he can't possibly know and the way he phrases it almost makes it sound like God is wrong if we're NOT raptured tonight because, "The children!".
So nothing that he said but only what it almost sounds like to you.

As an aside, friends, family, and even myself have speculated on things that "could have" happened or will happen, based on the Bible. But we don't spout our speculations as fact, which is what this guy is doing. When you have a platform where you can reach a lot of people, you have to be careful not to deceive the listeners or add to doctrine, which this guy is unintentionally doing when he says that because today is the anniversary of Get Off the Ark Day, it means we'll be raptured away because "as in the days of Noah..."

Anyway, that's my take on it. Sorry if my skepticism is irritating. Guess we'll see if he's right in his insinuations by tomorrow, eh?
You called him a false prophet and yet the only prophecies he references are quotes from the Bible. Yes, he is speculating and yes he is most likely wrong. But everyone on this forum speculates about their interpretation of Bible verses and they don't need to be accused of being a false prophet for doing so. Jesus is the Lord of the "Day of the Lord" and He will be the one to say whether or not we can speculate and consider His word.
 

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That is known as the doctrine of imminence, fundamental to the vast majority of Christians.


So nothing that he said but only what it almost sounds like to you.


You called him a false prophet and yet the only prophecies he references are quotes from the Bible. Yes, he is speculating and yes he is most likely wrong. But everyone on this forum speculates about their interpretation of Bible verses and they don't need to be accused of being a false prophet for doing so. Jesus is the Lord of the "Day of the Lord" and He will be the one to say whether or not we can speculate and consider His word.
Ok. 🤷‍♀️
 

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Matthew 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.
 

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131 health/science institutions globally all failed to cite even 1 record of “SARS-COV-2” purification, by anyone, anywhere, ever
June 6, 2021 by Christine
As of November 3, 2021:

131 institutions (mainly health and science institutions) in >20 countries have all failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing “SARS-COV-2” purification by anyone, anywhere, or containing proof of “its” existence. Below is a list of the institutions. Also, note that from several of these institutions (i.e. the CDC, Public Health England, UK DHSC, India’s ICMR) we have multiple responses.

Click here to see an Excel file listing the institutions (last updated November 2, 2021):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Institution-list-for-website8.xls

Click this link to see the actual responses:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/

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"It is always dangerous to be right if the government is wrong" Voltaire
 
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