PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

[Dude653]

Karen Croake Heisler: 67-year-old former Notre Dame professor says “damn the unvaccinated,” dead 12 days after third Pfizer mRNA injection
September 22, 2021admin

ORLANDO, FLORIDA — A 67-year-old former Notre Dame professor is dead, in what is fast-becoming a pattern of quick deaths after “booster” shots.
Mrs. Karen Croake Heisler received her first dose of Pfizer experimental mRNA on January 13, according to her Twitter account. Her age allowed her to be one of the first to receive the injections in December and January. It’s unclear when she received the second injection. But Mrs. Heisler declared on April 9 that she and her husband suffered only sore arms after their second injections.

Mrs. Heisler was a passionate, hardcore supporter of anything related to masks and COVID-19 mandates. She also displayed consistent animosity towards those who refuse to receive mRNA and viral vector DNA injections. She called non-vaxxed people “selfish” and ordered them to stay home “until you come to your senses.”

Ms. Heisler loved masks so much that she even made her dog wear them.

For reasons unknown, Mrs. Heisler received a third Pfizer mRNA injection on September 7.

Her health apparently deteriorated very quickly thereafter. Mrs. Heisler tweeted from Orlando Regional Medical Center on September 14. She was there to see a cardiologist. Mrs. Heisler tweeted three times that day, with all of them blaming the “unvaccinated” for her deteriorating health. She went out swinging, telling everyone to “get the damn vaccine” and “damn the unvaccinated.”

Mrs. Heisler died from “cancer-related complications” on September 19.
RELATED: Jovita Moore: Atlanta news anchor develops two brain tumors 12 days after second experimental Pfizer mRNA injection, still recovering from surgery (May 31, 2021)

Mrs. Heisler was well-respected by the Notre Dame community. She worked in the university’s Film, Television and Theater (FTT) department from 1993 until she retired in 2018.

Mrs. Heisler authored the book Fighting Irish: Legends, Lists and Lore in 2006. The FTT Television Studies Award is named after Mrs. Heisler and given to one graduating FTT student annually for outstanding academic performance.
Mrs. Heisler is survived by her husband and two sons.

Couple questions here why did they not list a citation from a medical examiner that said the vaccine was definitely what killed her.
Where are the citations that prove this is a pattern
Also correlation isn't always causation

 

[PennEd]

Also correlation isn't always causation

This has been the refrain as the bodies pile up.

Of course this "clever" refrain was NEVER mentioned when people who died in ANY way, were listed as covid deaths if they tested positive, REGARDLESS of the manner of their death.

Why is that?

 

[ZNP]

Couple questions here why did they not list a citation from a medical examiner that said the vaccine was definitely what killed her.
Where are the citations that prove this is a pattern
Also correlation isn't always causation

Unless of course an unvaccinated dies with Covid19.

Please note, during a clinical trial (which is what this is when you are using a EUA vaccine) you are supposed to list everyone who dies "with the vaccine".

I remember the articles of the irony when some anti vaxxer died, this is just the other shoe dropping.

I think it is unfortunate that she used the term "damned" and now will have to answer for every word when she appears before the judgement seat.

 

[rayzor]

This has been the refrain as the bodies pile up.

Of course this "clever" refrain was NEVER mentioned when people who died in ANY way, were listed as covid deaths if they tested positive, REGARDLESS of the manner of their death.

Why is that?

It just it gets people focus away from god.

 

[Dude653]

Unless of course an unvaccinated dies with Covid19.

Please note, during a clinical trial (which is what this is when you are using a EUA vaccine) you are supposed to list everyone who dies "with the vaccine".

I remember the articles of the irony when some anti vaxxer died, this is just the other shoe dropping.

I think it is unfortunate that she used the term "damned" and now will have to answer for every word when she appears before the judgement seat.

We can look at how many vaccinated people die versus how many on vaccinated people die in extrapolate the data.
And the data shows that the unvaccinated are dying at astronomically higher rates.
This is more than enough data to establish a correlation between not being vaccinated and dying of covid

 

[Dude653]

This has been the refrain as the bodies pile up.

Of course this "clever" refrain was NEVER mentioned when people who died in ANY way, were listed as covid deaths if they tested positive, REGARDLESS of the manner of their death.

Why is that?

This would be another unfalsifiable claim

 

[Dude653]

People die every day. The Lord decides how and when I do. Not the government. I trust in Him. I certainly don't trust these wicked men who are doing everything in their power to manipulate and control everyone. There is a reason they want EVERYONE, but themselves of course, to be injected with this garbage, and it has nothing to do with a virus. If you want to be all vaxxed up, your choice, but DO NOT attempt to guilt people into putting that crap into their bodies.

Yeah I know that's why I'm from this Day Forward I will not look both ways before I cross the street. Why take precautions when people die every day right?

 

[ZNP]

We can look at how many vaccinated people die versus how many on vaccinated people die in extrapolate the data.
And the data shows that the unvaccinated are dying at astronomically higher rates.
This is more than enough data to establish a correlation between not being vaccinated and dying of covid

It only works if you eliminate the data you don't like, for example Israel.

 

[Dude653]

It only works if you eliminate the data you don't like, for example Israel.

Literally every fact check site is saying the Israel thing is propaganda.

 

[ZNP]

Literally every fact check site is saying the Israel thing is propaganda.

It seems it would be very easy to disprove, the scientific study would list all the people who died and their vaccination dates. Instead of telling me it is propaganda why not point out errors in the report?

Where were these fact checkers when Fauci was saying that HCQ had been proven to be ineffective and even dangerous? Oh yeah, they were publishing the bogus report.

Where were these fact checkers when Fauci said he had nothing to do with Wuhan? Nothing but crickets.

Where were these fact checkers when Hunter Biden story came out, oh yeah, they were calling it Russian disinformation.

You sound like Lucy telling Charlie Brown -- this time I'm telling the truth.

 

[Dude653]

It seems it would be very easy to disprove, the scientific study would list all the people who died and their vaccination dates. Instead of telling me it is propaganda why not point out errors in the report?

Where were these fact checkers when Fauci was saying that HCQ had been proven to be ineffective and even dangerous? Oh yeah, they were publishing the bogus report.

Where were these fact checkers when Fauci said he had nothing to do with Wuhan? Nothing but crickets.

Where were these fact checkers when Hunter Biden story came out, oh yeah, they were calling it Russian disinformation.

Your logical fallacy is called confusing correlation with causation but I feel like we already covered this one

 

[ZNP]

Your logical fallacy is called confusing correlation with causation but I feel like we already covered this one

Your logical fallacy is listening to liars.

Scientific studies are scientific because they can be disproved or replicated.

 

[Dude653]

Your logical fallacy is listening to liars.

Scientific studies are scientific because they can be disproved or replicated.

A person dies and a person just happens to have been vaccinated in recently
You need to provide evidence that the two are correlated and thus far you have not

 

[Aidan1]

The experience in this stuff says they have to go through clinical trials, they have to go through animal trials, they have to go through 12 years of trials before they get approved. It is the job of those making the vaccine to prove it is safe, not my job to assume it is safe and then prove by all the people dying that it isn't.

Of course, in a normal situation. But you cant call the covid Pandemie a normal situation.
Btw, in germany they dont shorten the experimental time, but the paperwar time for to get allowness to the market.
According you, we would wait 12 years, but then we would have a much more worse situation then we have now.

 

[Dude653]

Claim.... A person died of an unknown medical condition and the doctor lied saying it was covid
Unless you were actually there and saw the medical examiner make his ruling, then this falls under the logical fallacy of unfalsifiable claim
If we're going to have a debate, it's important to understand how basic logic works

 

[ZNP]

A person dies and a person just happens to have been vaccinated in recently
You need to provide evidence that the two are correlated and thus far you have not

You are wrong! Educate yourself. When you do a clinical trial you have to keep tabs on every single person who dies after being vaccinated and then go through and demonstrate that the death is unrelated. That is how a clinical trial is conducted. Right now the vaccine is EUA, that by definition means that everyone taking that vaccine is part of a clinical trial.

Stop pretending to know what you are talking about.

 

[PennEd]

A person dies and a person just happens to have been vaccinated in recently
You need to provide evidence that the two are correlated and thus far you have not

Here is evidence the vaccine is causing all manner of disease and death and at least one of the reasons why. DON'T say "ahh, I aint watching that', and THEN say "you have no evidence!
Dr.Ryan Cole: The mRNA "vaccines" are helping CANCER (bitchute.com)

 

[ZNP]

Of course, in a normal situation. But you cant call the covid Pandemie a normal situation.
Btw, in germany they dont shorten the experimental time, but the paperwar time for to get allowness to the market.
According you, we would wait 12 years, but then we would have a much more worse situation then we have now.

This is gibberish. Of course it isn't a normal situation, that by definition is why we have EUA. But the criteria for skipping the clinical trials is that those who are being vaccinated are now part of the clinical trial.

 

[ZNP]

Claim.... A person died of an unknown medical condition and the doctor lied saying it was covid
Unless you were actually there and saw the medical examiner make his ruling, then this falls under the logical fallacy of unfalsifiable claim
If we're going to have a debate, it's important to understand how basic logic works

Many doctors who were there have testified to this.

 

[Smoke]

This has been the refrain as the bodies pile up.

Of course this "clever" refrain was NEVER mentioned when people who died in ANY way, were listed as covid deaths if they tested positive, REGARDLESS of the manner of their death.

Why is that?

You're actually proving my point... we both believe it's foolish to say someone died from covid if they were positive for covid and died in a car accident (assuming this really happened). Similarly, it's equally foolish to say someone died after taking a covid vaccine if they had Leukemia and died from complications of it.

But you're in no position to complain about people who are doing the exact same thing as you are by blaming correlation to causation. You can see this is not right yet you keep doing it in a different argument.