Every State has the right to pass their own Reparations plan

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shittim

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I know many honest people of integrity who agree with him as do I.
I know some who are challenged in these areas who do not.
 

shittim

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He speaks his truth quietly and clearly, as does a person of eloquence and morality.
Not from emotion and violence as does the adversary and his minions.(y):unsure::)
 

ZNP

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I know many honest people of integrity who agree with him as do I.
I know some who are challenged in these areas who do not.
To be clear he was not against reparations. He was against doing it without discernment. For example, the reason California is debating this is not because of slavery in the 1800s but because of systemic abuses against minorities in the 1900s. If someone can prove they were bankrupted or harmed by unjust actions from California I have no issue with them suing and winning a judgement.
 

Beckie

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As one who lived 75years in California i feel CA Gov harmed and robbed for me.
 

ZNP

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To be clear he was not against reparations. He was against doing it without discernment. For example, the reason California is debating this is not because of slavery in the 1800s but because of systemic abuses against minorities in the 1900s. If someone can prove they were bankrupted or harmed by unjust actions from California I have no issue with them suing and winning a judgement.
For example, many people were scammed by Bernie Madoff. Most of them were in a Jewish community down in Florida. One claim they make is that the SEC said they checked Bernie out and found no evidence of fraud! It was stunning, this was more than 20 years into the ponzi scheme and so many trusted the SEC. Therefore suppose there was a class action lawsuit against the SEC and they decided to award money to all Jews because some Jews had invested in Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme! That is the same thing as someone saying that because they are black they deserve reparations from California regardless of proving they were actually harmed by California.
 

Beckie

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What ever happened to buyer beware ? Most are scammed by their own greed.
 

ZNP

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What ever happened to buyer beware ? Most are scammed by their own greed.
I would certainly agree with respect to Madoff, but that does not exonerate the SEC. US citizens have the right to trust that if the SEC says they investigated Madoff and did not find anything out of the ordinary that this is true. The fact is anyone who had actually looked would have seen the Ponzi scheme easily when the SEC investigated.

Investigation of Failure of the SEC to Uncover Bernard Madoff's Ponzi Scheme-Public Version

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...lure-sec-uncover-bernard-madoffs-ponzi-scheme
 

Beckie

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Some how i am reminded of God's warnings about usury. Sorta fits?
I stopped trusting this government, any fraction of it, mid 60s the Warren report was my first clue.
 

shittim

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Looks like the coop-de-tat was the jfk murder.
 

Beckie

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Looks like the coop-de-tat was the jfk murder.
His murder was awful the lies of the government have shown to be worse for the country. That is not to say there was not corruption before but that i was not of age to know about it.
 

shittim

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President Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex, apparently it struck the day day before President Kennedy was going to announce our withdrawal from Vietnam, seems the CIA wanted that war.:unsure:
 

shittim

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To be clear he was not against reparations. He was against doing it without discernment. For example, the reason California is debating this is not because of slavery in the 1800s but because of systemic abuses against minorities in the 1900s. If someone can prove they were bankrupted or harmed by unjust actions from California I have no issue with them suing and winning a judgement.

Thank you, I homed in on the record of 3,700 Free Blacks who owned 12 black slaves, that told me all.
best wishes:)(y)
 

ZNP

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If you don't agree with this law, then I would suggest you shake off the dust and move to another state very quickly. The writing is on the wall.