Catholics are the "new Black" (and related concerns)

[Subhumanoidal]

Those Baptists raped children for over 20 years. Someone had to be protecting someone within that religious institution in order for that to occur. I could say Baptists condone rape on an institutional level based on that. But you don’t see me smearing all of them over that because I know it was those people and not all Baptists.

The difference being the Head of All Catholics vs an isolated group. Yes, that these things occurred, regardless of religion, are bad. But when the highest levels of a a long standing, worldwide religion condone the protection of these people that's hardly the same as a smaller cell of individuals among 1000s of similar groups having equally bad people.
Also you said yourself you "assume" they were protected by higher ups in the organization, but you don't know that. It was nothing more than a failed attempt to deflect.
The comparisons you attempt to make are Not equal. Nor have you actually dealt with the proven points. All you've done is try to deflect by redirecting and pointing the finger back. But that doesn't mean you've acknowledged the accusations set before you, and that have been proven again and again for years now.

 

[GodMyFortress]

The difference being the Head of All Catholics vs an isolated group. Yes, that these things occurred, regardless of religion, are bad. But when the highest levels of a a long standing, worldwide religion condone the protection of these people that's hardly the same as a smaller cell of individuals among 1000s of similar groups having equally bad people.
Also you said yourself you "assume" they were protected by higher ups in the organization, but you don't know that. It was nothing more than a failed attempt to deflect.
The comparisons you attempt to make are Not equal. Nor have you actually dealt with the proven points. All you've done is try to deflect by redirecting and pointing the finger back. But that doesn't mean you've acknowledged the accusations set before you, and that have been proven again and again for years now.

Can you name a Catholic rapist that never stood trial because the Pope refused to turn him over? I know of one Cardinal that the Boston prosecutor declined to prosecute that didn’t sexually assault anyone. He moved to the Vatican and took another position that was not in charge of other churches.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It really is sick how some people on here go after Catholicism.

Why are Catholics unwilling to look at the serious problems within their church? That's the real issue.

Vatican blocks Biden communion ban in US, pushes vaccine, silent on German schism

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...ism?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

1. Should wicked Joe Biden have been ex-communicated years ago? Absolutely

2. Should the Communist Pope Francis be pushing Globalism and the bogus vaccines? Absolutely not.

3. Should the Pope demand that all the clergy encouraging homosexuals and same-sex marriages be immediately removed from office? Absolutely

As you can see, these are some very serious issues which will never be addressed. Which points to the corruption of the Catholic church at the highest levels.

As to the charitable work of Catholic organizations, that is commendable. But when Catholic charities deliberately break immigration laws to bring illegal aliens into the USA, that is criminal and also treasonous. And they are not alone in this. Mainstream Protestant denominations are doing the same thing, since they have all become Marxist.

 

[GodMyFortress]

Why are Catholics unwilling to look at the serious problems within their church? That's the real issue.

Vatican blocks Biden communion ban in US, pushes vaccine, silent on German schism

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...ism?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

1. Should wicked Joe Biden have been ex-communicated years ago? Absolutely

2. Should the Communist Pope Francis be pushing Globalism and the bogus vaccines? Absolutely not.

3. Should the Pope demand that all the clergy encouraging homosexuals and same-sex marriages be immediately removed from office? Absolutely

As you can see, these are some very serious issues which will never be addressed. Which points to the corruption of the Catholic church at the highest levels.

As to the charitable work of Catholic organizations, that is commendable. But when Catholic charities deliberately break immigration laws to bring illegal aliens into the USA, that is criminal and also treasonous. And they are not alone in this. Mainstream Protestant denominations are doing the same thing, since they have all become Marxist.

All of the American Catholic Bishops are coming together this year to discuss the topic of not letting people receive communion that openly support things against what the church teaches.

The Pope has never imposed Communism on anyone.

The Pope has spoken about not blessing homosexual relationships. All is see is a wave of Protestant churches embracing homosexuality.

If any Catholic charities break the law they will answer for it if the government is doing their job and prosecuting illegal behavior.

 

[JesusWhereRU]

The difference being the Head of All Catholics vs an isolated group. Yes, that these things occurred, regardless of religion, are bad. But when the highest levels of a a long standing, worldwide religion condone the protection of these people that's hardly the same as a smaller cell of individuals among 1000s of similar groups having equally bad people.
Also you said yourself you "assume" they were protected by higher ups in the organization, but you don't know that. It was nothing more than a failed attempt to deflect.
The comparisons you attempt to make are Not equal. Nor have you actually dealt with the proven points. All you've done is try to deflect by redirecting and pointing the finger back. But that doesn't mean you've acknowledged the accusations set before you, and that have been proven again and again for years now.

most people don't realize this but in reality, there is more child molestation in the protestant community than the Catholic. I have heard this from 2 or more news sources.

And again, what about the over 98% of priests who do not even get accused much less convicted of molestation?

also, there have been many FALSE accusations from people wanting to cash in. They think the Catholic Church is wealthier than... i dunno... the US Government maybe...

then there is how anti-Catholics not overly concerned about children just want another weapon to attack the RCC with

That said, it was disgusting how bishops just moved molesters to other parishes... totally disgusting.

As i have said b4, t here is much evil in the RCC and its odd how Protestants focus on ... the things they focus on RE the wrong-ness or apparent wrong-ness of Catholicism, all the while entirely ignorant of what is REALLY the most wrong...

of course "catholics" do this also... otherwise, they wouldn't have moved priests around rather than kick them out of the Church.

i guess u just can't trust any institution touched by human hands... and yet Jesus did establish a Church... (Mt 16:18 etc..)

 

[JesusWhereRU]

All of the American Catholic Bishops are coming together this year to discuss the topic of not letting people receive communion that openly support things against what the church teaches.

The Pope has never imposed Communism on anyone.

The Pope has spoken about not blessing homosexual relationships. All is see is a wave of Protestant churches embracing homosexuality.

If any Catholic charities break the law they will answer for it if the government is doing their job and prosecuting illegal behavior.

i frankly think a lot of people's priorities are messed up

We should be uniting to attack ALL evil, but again... it's about priorities. To me, not enough people seem upset about the Nov 3 THEFT of the White House. We had a president, who wasn't exactly a preacher but who stood for Christians' rights and freedom of conscience. He changed the laws about ... well Pres O had put in place "laws" that would force Christians to participate in medical procedures they did not believe in and Trump changed that...

So we had this pro Christian president and the election was stolen from him. HE IS THE TRUE PRESIDENT. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN ANY INTELLIGENT/EDUCATED PERSON'S MIND ABOUT THAT

Yet most people act like that feeble minded-out of touch with reality-fakeCatholic is actually president...

It is sickening how the so called supreme court did not choose to hear the cases on voter fraud.. Well, SOME Justices did want to hear them (Clarence Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch). But that "chief justice"... he should be demoted NOW

Write to the Sup Ct (so called )

and tell them this...

 

[JesusWhereRU]

wait. what am I saying?

Roberts should be GONE not demoted...

a partisan hack if there ever was one... TRAITOR to the Constitution

 

[GaryA]

Anyway, I like the way the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church that did not cave to the culture and condone artificial birth control, the use of which has moral implications and that is why it is forbidden.

Has it ever occurred to you that there could possibly be a 'profit' motive behind it instead of a 'moral' one? Such as - Catholic population increase over time? While working quietly to encourage non-Catholics to engage in birth control for the opposite effect?

Don't think for one minute that things like this don't actually happen - or that it is not the likely scenario.

 

[vic1980]

Revelation 17​

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.​

6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.​

After reading this thread , happy in my soul , that there are some brethren in Christ. That have shared truth with those that have not yet actknowledge by studying the scripture , that the Papacy and Roman Catholicism has nothing to do with Jesus Christ His Church ...

Adstar , GaryA , Nehemiah6 continue the good work

 

[GaryA]

well, u are entitled to interpret scripture as you please. That means you have chosen to be your own pope. That also means that everyone else is also his or her own pope

Exactly!

The Bible teaches us that when we are saved, the Holy Spirit abides within us and we in effect become our own priest.

Because of Jesus, we have a direct connection to the Father and may approach Him directly in the name of Jesus.

 

[GaryA]

but t hat is not how Jesus set up His Church. He set it up to have ONE human head or leader which was first St Peter and then the other popes.

The Bible is very clear - the only 'head' of the Church is Jesus.

 

[GaryA]

I don’t get the Catholic bashing. I’m a Southern Baptist myself, but I sometimes go to Catholic Churches for prayer. It’s something with those churches that I feel good about.

Please explain this in further detail.

 

[GodMyFortress]

Has it ever occurred to you that there could possibly be a 'profit' motive behind it instead of a 'moral' one? Such as - Catholic population increase over time? While working quietly to encourage non-Catholics to engage in birth control for the opposite effect?

Don't think for one minute that things like this don't actually happen - or that it is not the likely scenario.

Protestants were United with Catholics in the immorality of contraception till they caved to social pressure. Catholics are disappointed that happened, there is no conspiracy. That decision those churches made was of their own free will.

 

[GaryA]

Well, Jesus chose Peter as the first human head of the Church on Earth

thou art Peter and on this rock, I will build My Church ... Mt 1618

That verse is not saying that Jesus chose Peter as "the first human head of the Church"; rather, it is referring to Peter as being 'foundational' in "growing through edification" (the meaning of the word 'build' in that verse) the [already existent] Church.

 

[GodMyFortress]

That verse is not saying that Jesus chose Peter as "the first human head of the Church"; rather, it is referring to Peter as being 'foundational' in "growing through edification" (the meaning of the word 'build' in that verse) the [already existent] Church.

You are reading your interpretation into the verse. That is not what it says. God names Simon “Rock” then four words later says on this “Rock” (Peter) I will build my Church. Then he gives him the keys to heaven. That is the most straightforward interpretation of that verse.

I guess you also think when God renamed Abram “father of many nations” (Abraham), he wouldn’t actually be what God named him; just his faith right?

 

[GaryA]

Satan also hates the Catholic Church...

Satan does not hate the Catholic Church - he loves it! Why? Because, he runs it from the top.

 

[vic1980]

Look into the History of the Roman Catholic Church and the Papacy , why would any brethren in Christ destroy others that had the Gospel in there native language ....

Think upon that for a second , and you can clearly see without a doubt , that this is not what Jesus commanded His church to do ...

Only Anti christ would command such things​

Shalom​

 

[GaryA]

@JesusWhereRU is not saying Jesus isn’t the only mediator between the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is our only pathway in that way. He’s saying it’s pleasing to God for us to be mediators in a lesser sense.

A "lesser" mediator would still be a mediator. The Bible tells us there is [exactly] one - Jesus.

The entire Bible makes it very clear God likes for us to mediate for him.

- Paul is blinded on his way to Damascus, how does God lift Paul’s blindness? He sends another Christian to lay hands on him to lift the blindness - Mediator

God used Peter to perform healing miracles - Mediator

God gave the Apostles the the ability to bind and loose and forgive sin - Mediator

Elders are asked to anoint the sick with oils - Mediator

I’m assuming you didn’t Baptize yourself or that Jesus didn’t come down in the flesh to baptize you? The person who baptized you was used as a - Mediator

When you ask someone to pray for you, you make that person a - Mediator

Every Prophet in the Bible relayed what God wanted his believers to know - Mediator

The High Priest was used by God to make sacrifices among many other things for God’s people - Mediator

Do I even need to list all the miracles God performed through Moses? - Mediator

I could go on and on.

You are using the word outside of its biblical meaning.

The OT examples are moot in the context of the New Covenant.

You need to go study the biblical definition of 'mediator'.

It is a two-way street, and involves much more than simple communication. No saint in heaven can be a mediator between God and man.

Only Jesus can do that.

 

[GaryA]

You are reading your interpretation into the verse. That is not what it says. God names Simon “Rock” then four words later says on this “Rock” (Peter) I will build my Church. Then he gives him the keys to heaven. That is the most straightforward interpretation of that verse.

I guess you also think when God renamed Abram “father of many nations” (Abraham), he wouldn’t actually be what God named him; just his faith right?

"To each his own..."

 

[GodMyFortress]

A "lesser" mediator would still be a mediator. The Bible tells us there is [exactly] one - Jesus.


You are using the word outside of its biblical meaning.

The OT examples are moot in the context of the New Covenant.

You need to go study the biblical definition of 'mediator'.

It is a two-way street, and involves much more than simple communication. No saint in heaven can be a mediator between God and man.

Only Jesus can do that.

You either have no idea what the word mediator means or you are being intellectually dishonest.

A mediator is a go-between. Jesus is our go-between (mediator) for us, the father, and the Holy Spirit. That has always been what mediator means. Mediator means “go-between” in Greek and English.

God clearly uses us as mediators, the biblical evidence of that in the New Testament is undeniable. You can’t refute any example I gave you. In every example, God declines to do something directly himself and used a mediator. It’s pleasing to God.