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Breaking News pair related to ISIS.
 
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I was born and grew up in California, I'm still only 30 minutes out of the state, even further from the incident, but I'd be lying if I said this isn't disconcerting because of how close it feels. Such a shame it has to come to this. Doesn't the Bible basically say it has to get worse before it gets better? I can't think about it too much though cause I know I could start getting irrational.
 
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The government claims that there is a strict homeland security screening in place for muslim immigrants and refugees. Guess what? The wife, Tashfeen Malik, PASSED the so called strict homeland security screening.
I just read about this too, gave me chills!
 

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I am NOT promoting inciteful violent talk about anybody, but can you believe THIS is what obama is most concerned about? I mean besides global warming!

[h=1]Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Those Who Use 'Anti-Muslim' Speech That 'Edges Toward Violence'[/h]AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta

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December 4, 2015
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The day after a horrific shooting spree by a "radicalized" Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used "anti-Muslim rhetoric" that "edges toward violence."
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocate's 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her "greatest fear" is the "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric" in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech. She said:
The fear that you have just mentioned is in fact my greatest fear as a prosecutor, as someone who is sworn to the protection of all of the American people, which is that the rhetoric will be accompanied by acts of violence. My message to not just the Muslim community but to the entire American community is: we cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on.
Assuring the pro-Muslim group that "we stand with you," Lynch said she would use her Justice Department to protect Muslims from "violence" and discrimination.
"When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American."
Attorney General Loretta Lynch
Claiming that violence against Muslims is on the rise and citing France's clamp down on potentially radicalized mosques, Lynch suggested the Constitution does not protect "actions predicated on violent talk" and pledged to prosecute those responsible for such actions.


“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American," said Lynch. "They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted."
"My message not just to the Muslim community but to all Americans is ‘We cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on,'" said Lynch.
It is painfully clear that, like her predecessor Eric Holder, Lynch is far more concerned with promoting the social justice agenda than protecting the Constitutional rights of American citizens. What exactly is speech that "edges toward violence"? What exactly are "actions predicated on violent talk"? In the end, it is whatever she decides it to mean.
Partial transcript via BuzzFeed.
UPDATE: Loretta Lynch, at a press conference yesterday, termed the San Bernardino shootings a "wonderful opportunity" to change the nature of police work:
We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change.
 

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I am NOT promoting inciteful violent talk about anybody, but can you believe THIS is what obama is most concerned about? I mean besides global warming!

Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Those Who Use 'Anti-Muslim' Speech That 'Edges Toward Violence'

AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta

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James Barrett
December 4, 2015
2576 Comments79454


The day after a horrific shooting spree by a "radicalized" Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used "anti-Muslim rhetoric" that "edges toward violence."
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocate's 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her "greatest fear" is the "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric" in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech. She said:
The fear that you have just mentioned is in fact my greatest fear as a prosecutor, as someone who is sworn to the protection of all of the American people, which is that the rhetoric will be accompanied by acts of violence. My message to not just the Muslim community but to the entire American community is: we cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on.
Assuring the pro-Muslim group that "we stand with you," Lynch said she would use her Justice Department to protect Muslims from "violence" and discrimination.
"When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American."
Attorney General Loretta Lynch
Claiming that violence against Muslims is on the rise and citing France's clamp down on potentially radicalized mosques, Lynch suggested the Constitution does not protect "actions predicated on violent talk" and pledged to prosecute those responsible for such actions.


“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American," said Lynch. "They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted."
"My message not just to the Muslim community but to all Americans is ‘We cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on,'" said Lynch.
It is painfully clear that, like her predecessor Eric Holder, Lynch is far more concerned with promoting the social justice agenda than protecting the Constitutional rights of American citizens. What exactly is speech that "edges toward violence"? What exactly are "actions predicated on violent talk"? In the end, it is whatever she decides it to mean.
Partial transcript via BuzzFeed.
UPDATE: Loretta Lynch, at a press conference yesterday, termed the San Bernardino shootings a "wonderful opportunity" to change the nature of police work:
We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change.
Sure, it's a case of surrounding the wagons.
She can prove her words by first prosecuting the hate speech going on in Mosques like France is doing.
 

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I was born and grew up in California, I'm still only 30 minutes out of the state, even further from the incident, but I'd be lying if I said this isn't disconcerting because of how close it feels. Such a shame it has to come to this. Doesn't the Bible basically say it has to get worse before it gets better? I can't think about it too much though cause I know I could start getting irrational.
It's been getting worse for 2015 years now.
 
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I don't promote hurting anyone either but we need to report suspicious activity by middle eastern men. The time for vigilance is now.
 

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I don't promote hurting anyone either but we need to report suspicious activity by middle eastern men. The time for vigilance is now.
Well in this case, women also.
 

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I don't promote hurting anyone either but we need to report suspicious activity by middle eastern men. The time for vigilance is now.

I fully agree! Especially those who live in the Middle Northeast of America! Ya know, like Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, and such........ :)
 

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Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Those Who Use 'Anti-Muslim' Speech That 'Edges Toward Violence'



Well, in this case, she needs to START with prosecuting Obama and Clinton. As they REFUSE to identify these terrorists as RADICAL ISLAMISTS, they are LUMPING ALL Muslims in with these Extremists who are butchering and murdering people. IF I were a Muslim, that would make me angry.
 
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It's been getting worse for 2015 years now.
Obviously...But the periods of peace in relation to the current moment really brings out the contrast. There was a time when I never really would dwell on these things let alone cared. But now that I do, even recognizing this has been taking place for 2015 years, if not longer, doesn't make it any easier for me to accept. Always assumed these types of things would work themselves out in some way shape or form, but to the contrary, this is all meant to play out to an ugly end with much more at stake than a lot of people feel comfortable, or want to admit.
 

p_rehbein

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The government claims that there is a strict homeland security screening in place for muslim immigrants and refugees. Guess what? The wife, Tashfeen Malik, PASSED the so called strict homeland security screening.
Well, sure, the Liberals are conducting these "tests." And, much like they did with our Education System, they had to "dummy down" the test so more people could pass.........heck, they didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
 
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I am NOT promoting inciteful violent talk about anybody, but can you believe THIS is what obama is most concerned about? I mean besides global warming!

Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Those Who Use 'Anti-Muslim' Speech That 'Edges Toward Violence'

AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta

By:
James Barrett
December 4, 2015
2576 Comments79454


The day after a horrific shooting spree by a "radicalized" Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used "anti-Muslim rhetoric" that "edges toward violence."
Speaking to the audience at the Muslim Advocate's 10th anniversary dinner Thursday, Lynch said her "greatest fear" is the "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric" in America and vowed to prosecute any guilty of what she deemed violence-inspiring speech. She said:
The fear that you have just mentioned is in fact my greatest fear as a prosecutor, as someone who is sworn to the protection of all of the American people, which is that the rhetoric will be accompanied by acts of violence. My message to not just the Muslim community but to the entire American community is: we cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on.
Assuring the pro-Muslim group that "we stand with you," Lynch said she would use her Justice Department to protect Muslims from "violence" and discrimination.
"When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American."
Attorney General Loretta Lynch
Claiming that violence against Muslims is on the rise and citing France's clamp down on potentially radicalized mosques, Lynch suggested the Constitution does not protect "actions predicated on violent talk" and pledged to prosecute those responsible for such actions.


“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American," said Lynch. "They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted."
"My message not just to the Muslim community but to all Americans is ‘We cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on,'" said Lynch.
It is painfully clear that, like her predecessor Eric Holder, Lynch is far more concerned with promoting the social justice agenda than protecting the Constitutional rights of American citizens. What exactly is speech that "edges toward violence"? What exactly are "actions predicated on violent talk"? In the end, it is whatever she decides it to mean.
Partial transcript via BuzzFeed.
UPDATE: Loretta Lynch, at a press conference yesterday, termed the San Bernardino shootings a "wonderful opportunity" to change the nature of police work:
We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change.
This is why the islamist think we are stupid...our leaders are stupid ....they laugh at this sort of stuff and think to themselves that they will without doubt be able to destroy us... and if liberals stay in power? They will.
 

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Obviously...But the periods of peace in relation to the current moment really brings out the contrast. There was a time when I never really would dwell on these things let alone cared. But now that I do, even recognizing this has been taking place for 2015 years, if not longer, doesn't make it any easier for me to accept. Always assumed these types of things would work themselves out in some way shape or form, but to the contrary, this is all meant to play out to an ugly end with much more at stake than a lot of people feel comfortable, or want to admit.
That's the thing... It has never, is not, and will never work out for themselves. They attack us, we attack back, they attack back.. Or they attack us, we don't do anything, they continue attacking.. I've said this before and I'll say it again... The planet is going to be in ashes by the time it's all over.
 
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That's the thing... It has never, is not, and will never work out for themselves. They attack us, we attack back, they attack back.. Or they attack us, we don't do anything, they continue attacking.. I've said this before and I'll say it again... The planet is going to be in ashes by the time it's all over.
We could wipe out every Islamic group in the world in a month ..if we decided to.. Its not a matter of having the power to defend ourselves or winning a struggle against Islam ..its a matter of political will and the ignorance of the leaders of our government .... Our military ... One aircraft carrier could defeat the whole middle east. We have political problem here..not a military problem.
 
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That's the thing... It has never, is not, and will never work out for themselves. They attack us, we attack back, they attack back.. Or they attack us, we don't do anything, they continue attacking.. I've said this before and I'll say it again... The planet is going to be in ashes by the time it's all over.
Yeah well it's already been written what has to take place, and again, it's a shame it has to come to this. Peace is not only so much more easier, but logical, which makes all this even harder to accept/not find annoying. But the seeds for destruction have already been sown I guess and It's all meant to spiral out of control apparently.
 

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We could wipe out every Islamic group in the world in a month ..if we decided to.. Its not a matter of having the power to defend ourselves or winning a struggle against Islam ..its a matter of political will and the ignorance of the leaders of our government .... Our military ... One aircraft carrier could defeat the whole middle east. We have political problem here..not a military problem.
But it wasn't Islam before our time.. It was Hitler and the Nazis in World War II. Before that, it was World War I. There was the persecution of Christians in the early time (still is, today). Point is that it is always going to be something. In 100 years from now, it'll still be something, even if what you suggest happens.
 

jsr1221

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Yeah well it's already been written what has to take place, and again, it's a shame it has to come to this. Peace is not only so much more easier, but logical, which makes all this even harder to accept/not find annoying. But the seeds for destruction have already been sown I guess and It's all meant to spiral out of control apparently.
But people are acting like it's just now spiraling out of control.. When it's been since Jesus went back to Heaven. So if it takes 2015 years for stuff to plan out, but still more stuff has to occur, I'd really hate to see what has to be done.
 
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Mitspa

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Yeah well it's already been written what has to take place, and again, it's a shame it has to come to this. Peace is not only so much more easier, but logical, which makes all this even harder to accept/not find annoying. But the seeds for destruction have already been sown I guess and It's all meant to spiral out of control apparently.
James ..folks, believers even have been saying this sort of thing for hundreds of years. Yes we know the end will come and we know it will happen as it is written...but we are never told to surrender to evil or stop reproving the darkness..we are never told to give up and turn our world over to the wicked. While we are here we are to stand boldly in the truth and uphold what is right and true.