Becomes Trump a dictator?

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HeIsHere

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The things you mention are things a nation would need to prepare for war. The USA is capable of protecting it's people because of something it's been doing for years which is that it has military presence and assistance all around the world. Assistance most people may not see as important but it's as important as an entire Aircraft carrier attack group. Why I mention it is that because the US is a NATO member and also allies with many other nations it means that their military can operate outside it's borders and those vessels have ports where they can refuel and restock with provisions or make repairs on a global scale. If not their vessels need to be fitted,supplied or refueled at sea which limits the range they can travel around the globe or return to the US for those items.
This is the same regardless of the branch of the US military, Army,Air force, Marine Corp. or Space Force. Having the ability to already have ports or bases where the whole defense package is staged means that it can be deployed in short notice in that given theater. Also it means that it is already capable of receiving and resupplying those military branches on multiple continents and defending any resupply vessels or Aircraft supplying those items.
It requires Congressional approval for the USA to leave NATO but the POTUS is also the Commander and Chief of all military forces in the US, So the POTUS can downsize the number of personal and supplies in any of the Bases or ports at his or her discretion. If an POTUS(any) were to diminish these items without need it would have a critical effect on our military to defend it's people. From the things I mentioned though if for instance we soon see 10,000 troops pulled out of Poland and sent elsewhere it might not mean a diminishing of that power without knowing why they were sent to that other place.
It takes infrastructure, stock piles, coordination at home to be prepared for war.

My point is that China, Russia and Iran (perhaps other countries) have been preparing at home to protect their people, the USA is set up to protect the ruling class and the "preppers" have done it for themselves.
 

ZNP

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It takes infrastructure, stock piles, coordination at home to be prepared for war.

My point is that China, Russia and Iran (perhaps other countries) have been preparing at home to protect their people, the USA is set up to protect the ruling class and the "preppers" have done it for themselves.

Iran does not have the capability of invading the US. China is 7,058 miles away from the US so if they loaded 250,000 solders in ships and tried to cross the Pacific it would take 150 transport ships at approx. 5000 solders per ship. If they attempted doing this they would also need 2 or 3 times that many support ships to ship their armored divisions,ammunition,food supplies,replacement troops ect. In 2025 everything mentioned would be seen amassing at their ports by satellite and it would be no surprise because all of these things would have to be collected up at the docks first.
Russia has no ability to transport enough troops from Russia along with the support supplies and weapons either and has only 1 Aircraft carrier. Russia is closer to the US at the Alaskan coast but they would need then to take control of Canada first to enter the US. If they took the Arctic sea route down through Greenland they would not be able to support enough troops to make an invasion force successful.
In the former post I mentioned that the US has not only troops but ports and military bases in both the Indo-Pacific and European theaters because they insure that the US can successfully transport 250,000 plus troops,their equipment along with the resupply items needed to be successful in a theater of war against a foe. If you reverse the situation for Iran,China and Russia they do not have ports in the Americas nor military bases where they could support an invasion of the US and would need to establish them prior to attempting a US invasion. The one clear threat to the US is nuclear war but i would not waste the effort if living within 150 miles of any major shipping ports(New York,Mississippi/New Orleans,Florida ect.) because if they leave those operational the US could resupply troops in the other theaters so they along with military bases would be targeted. Here is a handbook if anyone would like to build one https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD0787483.pdf The number one way the US has been doing and can do to protect it's citizens from invasion from foreign invasion is to keep doing what they have done since ww2 and keep it's military in both the Indo-Pacific and Europe as well as in the US. If your already paying the solders salary,feeding them and supplying them with military hardware it doesn't matter where they are stationed other than being stationed in multiple theaters insures that any invasion of the US by an foe can be repelled from multiple directions.
 

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Iran does not have the capability of invading the US. China is 7,058 miles away from the US so if they loaded 250,000 solders in ships and tried to cross the Pacific it would take 150 transport ships at approx. 5000 solders per ship. If they attempted doing this they would also need 2 or 3 times that many support ships to ship their armored divisions,ammunition,food supplies,replacement troops ect. In 2025 everything mentioned would be seen amassing at their ports by satellite and it would be no surprise because all of these things would have to be collected up at the docks first.
Russia has no ability to transport enough troops from Russia along with the support supplies and weapons either and has only 1 Aircraft carrier. Russia is closer to the US at the Alaskan coast but they would need then to take control of Canada first to enter the US. If they took the Arctic sea route down through Greenland they would not be able to support enough troops to make an invasion force successful.
In the former post I mentioned that the US has not only troops but ports and military bases in both the Indo-Pacific and European theaters because they insure that the US can successfully transport 250,000 plus troops,their equipment along with the resupply items needed to be successful in a theater of war against a foe. If you reverse the situation for Iran,China and Russia they do not have ports in the Americas nor military bases where they could support an invasion of the US and would need to establish them prior to attempting a US invasion. The one clear threat to the US is nuclear war but i would not waste the effort if living within 150 miles of any major shipping ports(New York,Mississippi/New Orleans,Florida ect.) because if they leave those operational the US could resupply troops in the other theaters so they along with military bases would be targeted. Here is a handbook if anyone would like to build one https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD0787483.pdf The number one way the US has been doing and can do to protect it's citizens from invasion from foreign invasion is to keep doing what they have done since ww2 and keep it's military in both the Indo-Pacific and Europe as well as in the US. If your already paying the solders salary,feeding them and supplying them with military hardware it doesn't matter where they are stationed other than being stationed in multiple theaters insures that any invasion of the US by an foe can be repelled from multiple directions.
China
It would take 100 well trained operatives with intelligence that China has access to to bring down the entire US electric grid (estimates are that China has well over 1,000 already in the US). All they need to do is destroy ten electric substations which are generally not even guarded. It would take special ordinance like plastic explosive, but if you do that and then sit back estimates run as high as 90% of Americans will die as a result (https://www.powermag.com/expect-death-if-pulse-event-hits-power-grid/). Many of these substations take more than a year to build and many of them are built in China. So China could build these ten substations they plan to take out before the attack planning to come in as a "peace keeping force" six months later and restore electricity and restore order.

Russia
Meanwhile Russia has a poseidon nuclear torpedo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System). It can create a 500 meter high radioactive Tsunami. 65% of all Americans live within 5 miles of the coastline. These torpedos could cause cities on our coast (Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, Miami, Houston, San Diego, LA, San Francisco and Seatle, etc) uninhabitable. People who are not killed in the initial attack would then be homeless, jobless and would become refugees. If these city dwellers fleeing the coast were rugged outdoorsmen, fully equipped and well trained they might survive.

Now imagine combining the two attacks so that at the same time the power goes out these tsunamis hit and the refugees are now fleeing into the US at the same time they have lost all power.

I think it is something like 98% of our military in the US uses the domestic power grid, so that would be bad as well. Without electricity pumps won't work and so you lose running water and you lose gasoline and diesel. Also the banks, debit cards and credit cards would not work. This means those fleeing the coast will likely only get 100 or 200 miles before the cars are dead.

This is a country with 390 million firearms. So you can be sure we will have roving gangs that are well armed. They'll survive the first month by robbing and looting. But in this dystopian world the hospitals will be all but useless and who is going to go to work? Men will be defending their families and homes. Sit back for 6 months, let them shoot it out, let those who were not "preppers" starve. Cholera, typhoid and dysentary will kill off more than the roving gangs.
 
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China
It would take 100 well trained operatives with intelligence that China has access to to bring down the entire US electric grid (estimates are that China has well over 1,000 already in the US). All they need to do is destroy ten electric substations which are generally not even guarded. It would take special ordinance like plastic explosive, but if you do that and then sit back estimates run as high as 90% of Americans will die as a result (https://www.powermag.com/expect-death-if-pulse-event-hits-power-grid/). Many of these substations take more than a year to build and many of them are built in China. So China could build these ten substations they plan to take out before the attack planning to come in as a "peace keeping force" six months later and restore electricity and restore order.

Russia
Meanwhile Russia has a poseidon nuclear torpedo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System). It can create a 500 meter high radioactive Tsunami. 65% of all Americans live within 5 miles of the coastline. These torpedos could cause cities on our coast (Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, Miami, Houston, San Diego, LA, San Francisco and Seatle, etc) uninhabitable. People who are not killed in the initial attack would then be homeless, jobless and would become refugees. If these city dwellers fleeing the coast were rugged outdoorsmen, fully equipped and well trained they might survive.

Now imagine combining the two attacks so that at the same time the power goes out these tsunamis hit and the refugees are now fleeing into the US at the same time they have lost all power.

I think it is something like 98% of our military in the US uses the domestic power grid, so that would be bad as well. Without electricity pumps won't work and so you lose running water and you lose gasoline and diesel. Also the banks, debit cards and credit cards would not work. This means those fleeing the coast will likely only get 100 or 200 miles before the cars are dead.

This is a country with 390 million firearms. So you can be sure we will have roving gangs that are well armed. They'll survive the first month by robbing and looting. But in this dystopian world the hospitals will be all but useless and who is going to go to work? Men will be defending their families and homes. Sit back for 6 months, let them shoot it out, let those who were not "preppers" starve. Cholera, typhoid and dysentary will kill off more than the roving gangs.

Ive seen movies where the power goes off and chaos breaks out but in Texas we go without power every time a hurricane hits or arctic storms knock the power out. Once I went a month and a half without power and water(Rita) and it felt strange when the power came back on, We were use to it by then it was like living the way everyone did for thousands of years before they had electricity you can do it trust me. The military are experts at going into places like Afghanistan and Iraq and taking down the power and shutting off the water and being able to still operate in those conditions and control the population. It is odd at first you will check your phone and computer just to see if you can get them to work but after a week or so of total silence at night and birds singing in the day an inner ear or something kicks in and it's amazing the things we were missing hearing. You'll look at the trees different because of the wind blowing through them sounds like ocean waves and realize we have those sounds tuned out. Dig two holes in the ground beside each other and connect them in a U shape sit a grill on one side and start a fire in it and it drafts the air through the other but since the fires below the surface no one can see it. Make some coffee the Pentagon doesn't think the Russian Poseidon torpedo would even work
 
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And what a bunch of slow thinking politicians they must be who haven't realized they don't need to siphon money off existing programs if they actually have possession of the machine they print the dollars with?
 

ZNP

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Ive seen movies where the power goes off and chaos breaks out but in Texas we go without power every time a hurricane hits or arctic storms knock the power out. Once I went a month and a half without power and water(Rita) and it felt strange when the power came back on, We were use to it by then it was like living the way everyone did for thousands of years before they had electricity you can do it trust me. The military are experts at going into places like Afghanistan and Iraq and taking down the power and shutting off the water and being able to still operate in those conditions and control the population. It is odd at first you will check your phone and computer just to see if you can get them to work but after a week or so of total silence at night and birds singing in the day an inner ear or something kicks in and it's amazing the things we were missing hearing. You'll look at the trees different because of the wind blowing through them sounds like ocean waves and realize we have those sounds tuned out. Dig two holes in the ground beside each other and connect them in a U shape sit a grill on one side and start a fire in it and it drafts the air through the other but since the fires below the surface no one can see it. Make some coffee the Pentagon doesn't think the Russian Poseidon torpedo would even work
You must live in the country
 

Gideon300

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When our gov't was sending our $ to fight that war, Ukranian or any nationality, this alone made it our interest.
Rubbish. Especially when Mr Trump wants to throw all that investment away by giving up a sovereign nation to a lying, murdering dictator. If Mr Trump wants to pull all aide from Ukraine, that's his choice. But giving Ukraine up to Russia is not. Mr Trump's basis for sacrificing Ukraine is based on lies. Mr Trump and his staff have believed all the lies spouted by Putin. Meanwhile, Russia continues to attack civilian targets in Ukraine's cities. If Mr Trump wants to end the death and destruction, he is going about it entirely the wrong way.