Another shooting. Defending the indefensible.

[HealthAndHappiness]

Very good point, no place has more crazies trying to have a mass shooting and what keeps them safe is not gun control laws, but lawful citizens with guns. (BTW is it also 1% of the terrorist attacks in Israel are from trans people?)

There's all kinds of violence in Israel.
I watched a documentary that showed it as a popular place for the sodomites too unfortunately.

 

[gb9]

Yeah because sane rational people go around saying that all gay people should be in jail or that I should go to jail for having an opinion on the internet.
That's totally rational and reasonable behavior

does not feel good to be told you should be in jail for an opinion, does it??

 

[GaryA]

Why are people STILL giving Dude an ear?

He has rejected Christ AFTER saying he was a Christian. He ALWAYS defends the wicked left. I'd highly recommend ignoring.

Yes, he can be somewhat annoying sometimes; however, I am not sure I should be ready to give up on him totally just yet...

He became offended when his son died.

<3

(It would be really nice to have the 'Friendly' emoticon/reaction - among others also - available for use in posts.)

No I do not hate Christians
Most of my friends are christians.

I sincerely hope and pray that you will find your way [back?] to God.

 

[GaryA]

It was nothing like that the first time I visited in 1994. When I came again in 2016, it was like a different country.

Where did you visit in 1994?
Where did you visit in 2016?

 

[ZNP]

The Torah is their constitution. Those famous passages in Leviticus are extremely relevant as to the legality of homosexual and trans behavior.

Most of the terrorist attacks in Israel are not from the Jewish people.

 

[Dude653]

you think alex jones should be in jail for disagreeing with a mass shooting for a time.

so there is that...

No I think Alex Jones should be in jail for fraud for climbing that his vitamin supplements treat covid

 

[Dude653]

Most of the terrorist attacks in Israel are not from the Jewish people.

I don't like what the Israelis are doing till the Palestinians because it's basically apartheid, however if the power dynamic were flipped there's little doubt in my mind it would result in genocide

 

[ZNP]

No I think Alex Jones should be in jail for fraud for climbing that his vitamin supplements treat covid

Quercetin and Zinc have been proven effective in treating people with Covid.

Vitamin D showed up immediately as being the difference between mild and severe cases of Covid.

There is plenty of statistical evidence and clinical trials to support these claims.

 

[Cameron143]

Quercetin and Zinc have been proven effective in treating people with Covid.

Vitamin D showed up immediately as being the difference between mild and severe cases of Covid.

There is plenty of statistical evidence and clinical trials to support these claims.

You know that liberals never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative.

 

[ZNP]

I don't like what the Israelis are doing till the Palestinians because it's basically apartheid, however if the power dynamic were flipped there's little doubt in my mind it would result in genocide

yes, without a doubt, the wall in Jerusalem is segregation on the grounds of ethnic background with a few unique differences. From what I understand the Palestinians want their own land under their own government, so the wall is simply a border between land governed by Israel and land governed by Palestinians. I think any reasonable person would agree that Israel needs to be able to control their border and know who is coming in and who is going out of the country.

Now they do something else which is to blow up the house of terrorists. These are people who killed others by suicide so there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that they perpetrated the act. Victims have no one to sue. It is a horrible crime that is rooted in vengeance and unforgiveness. But there is a logic to it. Who would be the most likely person to know that this young man is about to do this act and would care for them? Their family. Iranians and others will pay people to commit acts of terrorism through suicide by promising to give their family a home. Therefore this penalty matches that, Iranians give their family a home and Israel will demolish the home. There is no financial incentive to killing people.

 

[Moses_Young]

I know we've been over this before but Occam's razor
You wake up in the morning and go outside, and everything's wet. Which is more likely, the fire department came and sprayed down the entire neighborhood, or it rained last night
Apply that same logic to your bat poop crazy conspiracy theories. Which is more likely, a shooting was fake and the police department, the hospital, the coroner, the local news stations, and the entire town is in on the lie, or it really happened?
Your logic is cartoonously absurd

Why do mass shootings keep happening, and instead of caring for the victims, the first thing the Communists can think of is banning guns? If Communists really cared about people, they would want to ban vaccines, as the Covid vaccine killed far more people than guns did. Like you say, Occam's razor shows us that the simplest explanation is that Communists don't really care about people, and only want to ban guns because they're doing something, or going to do something, they know we would shoot them for if we found out.

 

[Dude653]

Why do mass shootings keep happening, and instead of caring for the victims, the first thing the Communists can think of is banning guns? If Communists really cared about people, they would want to ban vaccines, as the Covid vaccine killed far more people than guns did. Like you say, Occam's razor shows us that the simplest explanation is that Communists don't really care about people, and only want to ban guns because they're doing something, or going to do something, they know we would shoot them for if we found out.

Yeah we've been over this 15 billion times here but banning guns would require getting rid of the second amendment which would require a 2/3 vote for both the Senate and the house of representatives. That's about as likely to happen as my being drafted into the nba, marrying a super model, winning the lottery, and being struck by lightning in the same day
Gun confiscation is just the right wing talking point. It's not going to happen

 

[cv5]

I don't like what the Israelis are doing till the Palestinians because it's basically apartheid, however if the power dynamic were flipped there's little doubt in my mind it would result in genocide

The existence of Israel itself BY ITSELF should be enough to make a believer out of anybody.

If you have fallen away, I would beg you to reconsider your state. And the folly of it.

 

[Paran]

The Law isn't too soft on guns......The Law is too soft on Shooters.

 

[Cameron143]

It's easy to blame guns for mass shootings. But I've never seen a gun get to any scene of a mass shooting by itself. Someone brought it. That shows intention. Murder was already conceived in the heart and mind. That is the impetus.
I'll grant you that guns heightens the ability to do more damage if one is so inclined, but blaming guns merely keeps mental health issues and personal responsibility out of the equation.

 

[Gideon300]

Would you give up your right to vote or speak freely, or any other freedom or right you think you have if it definitively saved the life of a single human being?

I give up a number of rights every time I get in my car. I wear a seat belt. I have a number of safety devices in the car that increased the cost of the car. I had no say in that. I do not have the right to slander people, even though free speech is a freedom we enjoy.

I do not advocate the impossible. I won't say, "let's outlaw cars." They kill a lot of people. I will say, "Outlaw military grade weapons and limit access to guns so that mass murder is much harder to achieve".

I'm not into situation ethics or "what if?" scenarios. What I will say is that it is just as important to be responsible as it is to have rights. Not so many people are interested in responsibility these days. Does a parent have the right to send their children to school without fearing for their safety? Balance that against the right to bear arms.

 

[Gideon300]

MASA

Cars kill way more people than these school shootings do. I applaud Gideon's appraisal for the value of a life, and of course his push to pay any cost to protect the innocent. So I encourage him to get out there and push for a complete ban on cars in Australia. Get the government to do a buy back program, buy up all the cars. Make Australia safe again.

We know from Greta Thurnberg and AOC that cars cause way more problems than they solve.

Very amusing. Unfortunately, this will happen eventually. The cursed world government that secretly controls the Western world will enforce public rather than private car ownership. I admire Elon Musk for what he's done for the car industry. But he will also facilitate the end of private car ownership. As I said before:


"I give up a number of rights every time I get in my car. I wear a seat belt. I have a number of safety devices in the car that increased the cost of the car. I had no say in that. I do not have the right to slander people, even though free speech is a freedom we enjoy.

I do not advocate the impossible. I won't say, "let's outlaw cars." They kill a lot of people. I will say, "Outlaw military grade weapons and limit access to guns so that mass murder is much harder to achieve".

I'm not into situation ethics or "what if?" scenarios. What I will say is that it is just as important to be responsible as it is to have rights. Not so many people are interested in responsibility these days. Does a parent have the right to send their children to school without fearing for their safety? Balance that against the right to bear arms."

 

[Gideon300]

Come on Gideon, you are retired military and you think guns are the cause of the problems?

You of all people aught to know that it's the heart of men who use all sorts of tools to murder, steal and destroy. The militaries have the biggest variety and the greatest power to kill innocent people by far.

Psychos lust after that which is not their own and have little conscience taking lives to get what material goods they desire.

The biggest difference between those two tools that you mentioned is that of range.
A firearm has further range than bladed weapons, but is limited by the ammo capacity. The blade can kill thousands and never runs out of ammo. The only limitations are those of the energy level of the attackers.
The other is the ability of those being attacked able, ye willing to stop the threats with superior skill and force.

I wish that I could get inside the head of the American gun advocate. I might have a better idea of why some Americans are so obsessed. According to statistics I've seen, a bit under half of American households do not have a gun. That in itself I find intriguing,

I am not advocating the end of gun ownership. I'm advocating the end of military style weapons. Your argument about ammo capacity is specious. A knife wielder has limited opportunity. An AR15 has a 50 round magazine. How long does it take to replace an empty magazine with another 50 rounds? That depends on the skill of the shooter, but even a klutz won't take long.

Australians still have the right to own a gun. The kind of gun is controlled. That's the difference. It's not perfect but it's way better than the system in the USA.

 

[Gideon300]

There have been no false flag Mass shootings. You are disconnected from reality

"[...] the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." If gun control actually worked, you wouldn't have all these false flag mass shootings occurring in "gun-free" zones.

But while you're talking about banning things, let's start by banning transvestites. These people need some serious mental help, or be locked up in gaol, for the safety of society. At the very least, the banning of incitement to violence which is all too common among transvestites (and the confiscation of the wealth of those who sponsor transvestite terrorism) would go a long way to preventing further false flag mass shootings.

Name a false flag mass shooting. I'm curious.

 

[gb9]

I wish that I could get inside the head of the American gun advocate. I might have a better idea of why some Americans are so obsessed. According to statistics I've seen, a bit under half of American households do not have a gun. That in itself I find intriguing,

I am not advocating the end of gun ownership. I'm advocating the end of military style weapons. Your argument about ammo capacity is specious. A knife wielder has limited opportunity. An AR15 has a 50 round magazine. How long does it take to replace an empty magazine with another 50 rounds? That depends on the skill of the shooter, but even a klutz won't take long.

Australians still have the right to own a gun. The kind of gun is controlled. That's the difference. It's not perfect but it's way better than the system in the USA.

" the right to bear arms shall not be infringed."

not " a right to own a certain type of arms shall be regulated, and the right to own a certain type of approved arm shall be granted by the government unless they decide otherwise".

that is what you are saying.

your country had the right of freedom of movement and expression until the gov. decided to severely restrict both in the name of overblown, overcounted covid.