Another shooting. Defending the indefensible.
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No, I'm ex military. I lock my doors and bar the gate to my yard. I do not keep a loaded gun under my pillow. My wife and I pray regularly for protection. We've had one incident in 20 years in our street. The teenager skipped our house and went into every other yard before the cops came.
The locked gate and the barking dog deterred him. Is it OK to shoot an unruly kid whose parents failed to raise him correctly? I'd rather not have to make that decision. God shows us what we should do. He takes care of the rest.
The locked gate and the barking dog deterred him. Is it OK to shoot an unruly kid whose parents failed to raise him correctly? I'd rather not have to make that decision. God shows us what we should do. He takes care of the rest.
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Enjoy slavery. Because when your government is the only ones that are armed you are not a free people.
Wake up to realize criminals there are armed.
Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.
Our military are family and friends. Thinking they'll turn weapons on their family and friends isn't wise.
Wake up to realize criminals there are armed.
Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.
Our military are family and friends. Thinking they'll turn weapons on their family and friends isn't wise.
There are Mennonite and Brethren friends that are hard core pacifists. I am against war, but disagree with them on self defense. We have had civil conversations. I still like and appreciate them. Some day they will possibly call for help to protect them from mobs of looters and gangs of armed travelling bands of marauders.
I don't dispute that the Lord protected you and your wife. God uses dogs for good sometimes. Those are but one layer of security. By your reasoning, however, relying on a barking dog is putting your trust in a dog rather than in God. There are always threats around. However, why should I give up my more powerful weapons when your weapon is a yapper?
A loaded gun under a pillow is an extremely dangerous place to put a weapon and is irresponsible, so I would never do it. Your comment does bring to mind an example.
I was attacked at night in Texas while in Rem sleep by three stronger opponents who tried to murder me while unconscious. The LORD protected me in spite of the fact that they targeted me personally.
He gave me a blessing of an opportunity to use in battle a skill set He taught me. Some motivated individuals in US military seek such extra training from the private sector.
God kept me in a surprisingly calm state of mind throughout that battle. He provided the choice to take their lives or to spare them.
I chose to show mercy, tempered with the promise of hell.
They were shown enough to know that they would die right there with any additional provocation. I was not a preacher, but I preached to them the most intense hellfire and damnation sermon.
I have a dozen other examples of God's protection with and without me taking weapons to bear.
Read Judges 18. There's an example of a wicked city that wanted to gang rape the man who was staying at a bed and breakfast.
The man sent his concubine out to be raped in his place. That wasn't an example of how God wants us to behave in the midst of a threat. That's a negative example of how bad things got there.
There's absolutely Nothing in God's Word against that man had he killed each and every sodomite forcing their way into that house, so to defend his and the other family.
That's not a constitutional right. It's a God Given responsibility and DUTY of a man.
I don't dispute that the Lord protected you and your wife. God uses dogs for good sometimes. Those are but one layer of security. By your reasoning, however, relying on a barking dog is putting your trust in a dog rather than in God. There are always threats around. However, why should I give up my more powerful weapons when your weapon is a yapper?
A loaded gun under a pillow is an extremely dangerous place to put a weapon and is irresponsible, so I would never do it. Your comment does bring to mind an example.
I was attacked at night in Texas while in Rem sleep by three stronger opponents who tried to murder me while unconscious. The LORD protected me in spite of the fact that they targeted me personally.
He gave me a blessing of an opportunity to use in battle a skill set He taught me. Some motivated individuals in US military seek such extra training from the private sector.
God kept me in a surprisingly calm state of mind throughout that battle. He provided the choice to take their lives or to spare them.
I chose to show mercy, tempered with the promise of hell.
They were shown enough to know that they would die right there with any additional provocation. I was not a preacher, but I preached to them the most intense hellfire and damnation sermon.
I have a dozen other examples of God's protection with and without me taking weapons to bear.
Read Judges 18. There's an example of a wicked city that wanted to gang rape the man who was staying at a bed and breakfast.
The man sent his concubine out to be raped in his place. That wasn't an example of how God wants us to behave in the midst of a threat. That's a negative example of how bad things got there.
There's absolutely Nothing in God's Word against that man had he killed each and every sodomite forcing their way into that house, so to defend his and the other family.
That's not a constitutional right. It's a God Given responsibility and DUTY of a man.
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We have about 175 million Americans who own guns. Presumably everyone who owns a gun uses it. Perhaps they hunt with it, perhaps they use it for security. But if 175 million people are saying that guns solve a problem that they have, then how can you possibly say that they cause more problems than they solve? Surely we don't get 180 million problems from guns. Oops, you said far more, sure we don't get 250 million problems from guns.
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The context of this thread is a person who shot and killed three nine year olds and three adults. I would not describe this person as "unruly" but rather as a wolf trying to kill the sheep.
The question is if it is OK to shoot a predator trying to kill the sheep you are there to protect?
The question is if it is OK to shoot a predator trying to kill the sheep you are there to protect?
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This conversation took place shortly after the uvalde incident
A few points brought up in the conversation are
1. Calling 911 during a home invasion is probably not going to help much because the intruder will likely kill you before the police arrive
2. A world without guns would be a world where the strong could easily prey on the weak
3. A license to who own a gun should require extensive training
4. Mass shootings makeup less than 1% of gun violence in America
5. A weapon like an AR-15 would in fact be useful to fight back against tyranny. Like the way that ukrainians are fighting back
6. They discuss possible ways of securing schools like maybe only one point of entry
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"[...] the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." If gun control actually worked, you wouldn't have all these false flag mass shootings occurring in "gun-free" zones.
But while you're talking about banning things, let's start by banning transvestites. These people need some serious mental help, or be locked up in gaol, for the safety of society. At the very least, the banning of incitement to violence which is all too common among transvestites (and the confiscation of the wealth of those who sponsor transvestite terrorism) would go a long way to preventing further false flag mass shootings.
But while you're talking about banning things, let's start by banning transvestites. These people need some serious mental help, or be locked up in gaol, for the safety of society. At the very least, the banning of incitement to violence which is all too common among transvestites (and the confiscation of the wealth of those who sponsor transvestite terrorism) would go a long way to preventing further false flag mass shootings.
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Gun control does work. Criminals love it. Do you have any idea how scary it is trying to hold up a convenience store if the guy behind the counter might have a gun? Gun control gives these guys peace of mind. Also many of them have significant others that can sleep easy at night knowing that their boyfriend, the guy who holds up these places will return home safe and sound.
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Law abiding citizens should be allowed to arm themselves but there are some people who should not be armed
When you have a guy like Omar mateen who's going to work talking about killing people, so much should say you know what we probably shouldn't sell this guy a gun, especially when the FBI knew he had ties to terrorist organizations
When you have a guy like Omar mateen who's going to work talking about killing people, so much should say you know what we probably shouldn't sell this guy a gun, especially when the FBI knew he had ties to terrorist organizations
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Cars kill way more people than these school shootings do. I applaud Gideon's appraisal for the value of a life, and of course his push to pay any cost to protect the innocent. So I encourage him to get out there and push for a complete ban on cars in Australia. Get the government to do a buy back program, buy up all the cars. Make Australia safe again.
We know from Greta Thurnberg and AOC that cars cause way more problems than they solve.
Cars kill way more people than these school shootings do. I applaud Gideon's appraisal for the value of a life, and of course his push to pay any cost to protect the innocent. So I encourage him to get out there and push for a complete ban on cars in Australia. Get the government to do a buy back program, buy up all the cars. Make Australia safe again.
We know from Greta Thurnberg and AOC that cars cause way more problems than they solve.
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