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CS1 said:
This is why we need to read the word of God, Jesus went to places where people were a sinner when they came to HIM first or were brought to HIM or asked Him to come
Zacchaeus was in a tree seeking Jesus and Jesus answered the call. Jesus sat a well and spoke to a woman in sin He did not go to her place of Business. The Centurian came to Jesus, the women with the issues of Blood came to Jesus, even the demons ran to him and fell on the ground. ANd Jesus could do no mighty works in a place because of there unbelief. But we think going to a gay wedding or reception will have more success than Jesus did. I have not heard any testimony of a Christian winning a gay person to the lord at a gay wedding of Reception. it is always seen as some kind of seed sowing thing that may happen at a more later time. I have not heard of that happening of any yet, I will pray with you it does.
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The reason people came to Jesus is because they could see the love he had for all humanity. He showed his love with mercy, kindness, healing the sick and raising the dead. It was acts of kindness and love that brought people to Jesus.

The only time Jesus got authoritative was when the religious leaders were not doing things God's way. Selling things in the temple or not being merciful to the people they were suppose to be serving.... Jesus corrected harsh religious leaders consistently..
 
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There is only one way attendance to the wedding from a biblical lens is justifiable.

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mark 2:17

To let people there know that God considers it an abomination and that is is sinful and they need a saviour.

People seem to miss this completely.
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What’s really bad is the tendency of making restrictive interpretations of Jesus.

If you’re considering that for a while, you’ll learn that Scripture is in fact backing up this viewpoint. Regarding this matter I refer to Matthew 28:19 merely as an example.

And why shouldn’t it? It doesn’t make sense that we are to withdraw from what The Holy Bible is telling us to do. Witnessing to all people.

Luckily most people don’t miss that point.
 
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Susanna said:
What’s really bad is the tendency of making restrictive interpretations of Jesus.

If you’re considering that for a while, you’ll learn that Scripture is in fact backing up this viewpoint. Regarding this matter I refer to Matthew 28:19 merely as an example.

And why shouldn’t it? It doesn’t make sense that we are to withdraw from what The Holy Bible is telling us to do. Witnessing to all people.

Luckily most people don’t miss that point.
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Of course we are called to preach the Good News, of this there is no doubt.
 
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A guy took his blonde girlfriend to her first football game. They had great seats right behind their team's bench. After the game, he asked her how she liked the experience. "Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each other over 25 cents." Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?" "Well, they flipped a coin, one team got it, and then for the rest of the game, all they kept screaming was, 'Get the quarterback! Get the quarterback!' I'm like, hello? It's only 25 cents!"
 
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There was a blonde who just got sick and tired of all the blonde jokes. One evening, she went home and memorized all the state capitals. Back in the office the next day, some guy started telling a dumb blonde joke. She interrupted him with a shrill announcement, "I've had it up to here with these blonde jokes. I want you to know that this blonde went home last night and did something probably none of you could do. I memorized all the state capitals." One of the guys, of course, said, "I don't believe you. What is the capital of Nevada?" "N," she answered.




I'm sorry, I just thought these were cute.:)
 
RickyZ

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I dont meant to be coming back to this thread. Since 'gay weddings or 'same sex weddings' are a relatively new phenomenon, its not something thats really explicitly mentioned in the Bible.

But what about the principle. Think of Daniel he was held captive and had to attend Nebuchadnezzers ceremonies and ordered to bow down and worship his idol whenver the music played. Well he would not. Even at risk of death.

He had no choice in whther he attended, but he could refuse to worship the idol. Here, a person does have a choice whether to attend or not, and what risk is it, that person may not speak to them? You can not go to something and still talk to them after.

I dont know about this gay wedding but many weddings recptions even straight ones are excess of food and drinking. But beware of peoples plying you with rich food and drink. Proverbs says as a man thinketh in his heart so is he. Have a look at Proverbs 23:6-9

Anyway Ricky chose to go to the reception and it made him uncomfortable. No surprises there. Hes concerned for his nephew. Ok. What hes not telling us is, any details as to why his nephew is marrying in the first place. Who is this guy hes marrying? Or was he forced into it. How did this 'relationship' start. Was he a believer or does he know anything about God or Jesus? How old is this nephew? Does he have any brothers and sisters, and are they accepting or tolerant or opposed as well?

Why these questions well if we are going to pray for his soul we might as well know the details.
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So Daniel was in attendance at the sinner king's party but did not participate in the sin. Which has been my point all along, there is not necessarily guilt by association.

Not meaning to leave anything out. Kevin and Saul married out of 'love', no one was forced into anything and I'm not sure hwre that came from. The met at a job; Kevin was exposed to church in his youth, Saul raised Catholic, but I don't think he's saved. Haven't really gotten a solid answer out of him, but really getting gay married is a pretty good indicator they've rejected that.

For now :)

Kevin is 30, only child, father divorced and deceased. His poor mom is horrified but doesn't want to lose her only son. Kinda went to support her as much as anything else.

Does that help shed some light?
 
RickyZ

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Lanolin said:
Not really. What would I pray. They just stop being gay and be saved. I think theres more to it. What about all the other people they know. Also, God doesnt answer some prayers for abominations. He cant make things right if the parties are not willing to do anything about it. GOd wants to know so we can have a conversation about it. He also wants to know what Ricky is going to actually DO about it.
Start a ministry? What kind? Has he acrually got any practical ways to minsiter to these people other than go to their weddings.
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Kevin knows he can come talk to me and not be harassed. You can't minister to people who don't want to talk to you.
 
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Hokay, having beat this dead horse to death (?), I have a related but separate question to pose in another thread
 
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Susanna said:
You’re basically saying that Jesus Himself was an enabler of sin. He went right out to where the sinners were struggling, sinning willfully or downright celebrating their sin.

Jesus didn’t hide behind fancy words created in an ivory tower, no Ma’am, He stood tall right amongst them to give them the greatest gift of all, Salvation.

We are called to do the same.
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Salvation from what? What is the Gospel to you Susanna? Please share.
 
calibob

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Susanna said:
You’re basically saying that Jesus Himself was an enabler of sin. He went right out to where the sinners were struggling, sinning willfully or downright celebrating their sin.

Jesus didn’t hide behind fancy words created in an ivory tower, no Ma’am, He stood tall right amongst them to give them the greatest gift of all, Salvation.

We are called to do the same.
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You have the spirit of an outreach worker.(y) We must go down to those who need help. Expecting them to come up to God's standards before we can help them is self rightous. We don't have to sin with them to give a clear witness of God's kindness and mercy by extending a hand in kindness and mercy. Thank you.
 
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calibob said:
You have the spirit of an outreach worker.(y) We must go down to those who need help. Expecting them to come up to God's standards before we can help them is self rightous. We don't have to sin with them to give a clear witness of God's kindness and mercy by extending a hand in kindness and mercy. Thank you.
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Have I stated that they must meet God's standard first before we can help?
Has anyone on this thread made that statement?
I have not read it?
 
calibob

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UnderGrace said:
Have I stated that they must meet God's standard first before we can help?
Has anyone on this thread made that statement?
I have not read it?
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Do you have a copy of one we can read or study?

I have accepted the Lord. I am undergoing continuous refinement in the fire of the Holy Spirit so I made closer to his image on a daily basis. I am not perfect but he who shed his blood and was raised from the dead is, and He is still alive. So that my faith can be counted as righteousness is perfect. I believe this with all of my heart and as I go into the bowels of humanity, I will always proclaim that Jesus is Lord.

Is that good enough?
 
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Susanna said:
You’re basically saying that Jesus Himself was an enabler of sin. He went right out to where the sinners were struggling, sinning willfully or downright celebrating their sin.

Jesus didn’t hide behind fancy words created in an ivory tower, no Ma’am, He stood tall right amongst them to give them the greatest gift of all, Salvation.

We are called to do the same.
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He was not an enabler because He Preached to them....do yo see the difference?

Do you think Jesus would hold back? He truly loved them with truth.

There are far too many preachers/teachers out there that have created such a casual image of Christ that it borders on profane.
Sad really

Jesus rebuked his own disciples ( @JesusLives ) which clearly demonstrates that He always dealt with sin, interestingly enough woman were the only group He did not rebuke...but He always maintained His authority.
 
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calibob said:
Do you have a copy of one we can read or study?

I have accepted the Lord. I am undergoing continuous refinement in the fire of the Holy Spirit so I made closer to his image on a daily basis. I am not perfect but he who shed his blood and was raised from the dead is, and He is still alive. So that my faith can be counted as righteousness is perfect. I believe this with all of my heart and as I go into the bowels of humanity, I will always proclaim that Jesus is Lord.

Is that good enough?
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I think you have not read my question?

calibob said:
Expecting them to come up to God's standards before we can help them is self rightous.
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Did you read someone on this thread make this assertion?

If they did they should be corrected.
 
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He was not an enabler because He Preached to them....do yo see the difference?

Do you think Jesus would hold back? He truly loved them with truth.

There are far too many preachers/teachers out there that have created such a casual image of Christ that it borders on profane.
Sad really

Jesus rebuked his own disciples ( @JesusLives ) which clearly demonstrates that He always dealt with sin, interestingly enough woman were the only group He did not rebuke...but He always maintained His authority.
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I have even preached to people in areas where the majority of people are Muslims. I have preached to my friend about what she’s doing and I have preached to people in the armed forces about Jesus.

Look, if you’re gonna criticize anyone for not preaching, please, address that speech to someone that doesn’t preach the gospel.
 
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