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I dont meant to be coming back to this thread. Since 'gay weddings or 'same sex weddings' are a relatively new phenomenon, its not something thats really explicitly mentioned in the Bible.
But what about the principle. Think of Daniel he was held captive and had to attend Nebuchadnezzers ceremonies and ordered to bow down and worship his idol whenver the music played. Well he would not. Even at risk of death.
He had no choice in whther he attended, but he could refuse to worship the idol. Here, a person does have a choice whether to attend or not, and what risk is it, that person may not speak to them? You can not go to something and still talk to them after.
I dont know about this gay wedding but many weddings recptions even straight ones are excess of food and drinking. But beware of peoples plying you with rich food and drink. Proverbs says as a man thinketh in his heart so is he. Have a look at Proverbs 23:6-9
Anyway Ricky chose to go to the reception and it made him uncomfortable. No surprises there. Hes concerned for his nephew. Ok. What hes not telling us is, any details as to why his nephew is marrying in the first place. Who is this guy hes marrying? Or was he forced into it. How did this 'relationship' start. Was he a believer or does he know anything about God or Jesus? How old is this nephew? Does he have any brothers and sisters, and are they accepting or tolerant or opposed as well?
Why these questions well if we are going to pray for his soul we might as well know the details.
But what about the principle. Think of Daniel he was held captive and had to attend Nebuchadnezzers ceremonies and ordered to bow down and worship his idol whenver the music played. Well he would not. Even at risk of death.
He had no choice in whther he attended, but he could refuse to worship the idol. Here, a person does have a choice whether to attend or not, and what risk is it, that person may not speak to them? You can not go to something and still talk to them after.
I dont know about this gay wedding but many weddings recptions even straight ones are excess of food and drinking. But beware of peoples plying you with rich food and drink. Proverbs says as a man thinketh in his heart so is he. Have a look at Proverbs 23:6-9
Anyway Ricky chose to go to the reception and it made him uncomfortable. No surprises there. Hes concerned for his nephew. Ok. What hes not telling us is, any details as to why his nephew is marrying in the first place. Who is this guy hes marrying? Or was he forced into it. How did this 'relationship' start. Was he a believer or does he know anything about God or Jesus? How old is this nephew? Does he have any brothers and sisters, and are they accepting or tolerant or opposed as well?
Why these questions well if we are going to pray for his soul we might as well know the details.
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I understood quite clearly that you were using the word "struggle" as a verb and the word "sin" as a noun. Apparently certain others did not, and talked to their own misunderstanding as if you were using a euphemism for sin when you were not. The lack of understanding was compounded further due to one in particular who opportunistically chose to advance a false accusation: those they disagree with do not believe God's revealed written word. It is a common deceitful tactic that allows them to mount their high horse so they can swing at phantoms, and has nothing whatsoever to do with you being blond 
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by your comment you are right. There is no such thing as a gay wedding. No one is Pounding gay that to is a false narrative created by those who think it is some kind of effective evangelism to participate in a gay wedding or reception. The sad thing is one think it is wrong to see what the Word of God s says and what God thinks about the topic and what God created man and women for has left the building. NO many do not hit people over the head with the bible many of self-processing Christian don't even read the Bible. I would expect Christian to call other Christians homophobe. Which is sad because the word of God is the Authority, not one's empathy done from carnality. Jesus came to set them free. If that is seen as homophobe so be it LOL.
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Jesus ate with sinners and publicans. Jesus did not condone their sin. Jesus was criticized for eating with them but He was there to be available to them.
Sodomites are almost as hard to win to the Lord as religious folks. Often just having a testimony for Christ without saying a word can be used of God in a powerful way to have the Holy Spirit minister to these folks.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Sodomites are almost as hard to win to the Lord as religious folks. Often just having a testimony for Christ without saying a word can be used of God in a powerful way to have the Holy Spirit minister to these folks.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I think this is the key right here....God's kindness is not empathy, it absolutely makes no sense to state that since the redeemed were once sinners and still sin they must participate/support/enable/empathize with other people's sin to show love.
That is just absurd line of reasoning and not biblical
We are called to be salt.
Salt preserves against putrefaction by controlling bacteria.
Salt is only good as long as it remains strong, effective, useful....it is not an enabler (sugar)
If it does loose its flavour, meaning the chemical compound has been exposed to the elements (moisture) then it is worthless, and it will not even benefit manure and turn it into fertilizer....why because it does not deal with the bacteria, therefore manure stays manure.
This is the biblical perspective straight from Jesus.
Obviously if a gay person has decided to have a "wedding" they are not struggling with sin there are celebrating and those that attend are in support (enablers).
That is just absurd line of reasoning and not biblical
We are called to be salt.
Salt preserves against putrefaction by controlling bacteria.
Salt is only good as long as it remains strong, effective, useful....it is not an enabler (sugar)
If it does loose its flavour, meaning the chemical compound has been exposed to the elements (moisture) then it is worthless, and it will not even benefit manure and turn it into fertilizer....why because it does not deal with the bacteria, therefore manure stays manure.
This is the biblical perspective straight from Jesus.
Obviously if a gay person has decided to have a "wedding" they are not struggling with sin there are celebrating and those that attend are in support (enablers).
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You’re basically saying that Jesus Himself was an enabler of sin. He went right out to where the sinners were struggling, sinning willfully or downright celebrating their sin.
Jesus didn’t hide behind fancy words created in an ivory tower, no Ma’am, He stood tall right amongst them to give them the greatest gift of all, Salvation.
We are called to do the same.
Jesus didn’t hide behind fancy words created in an ivory tower, no Ma’am, He stood tall right amongst them to give them the greatest gift of all, Salvation.
We are called to do the same.
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This is why we need to read the word of God, Jesus went to places where people were a sinner when they came to HIM first or were brought to HIM or asked Him to come
Zacchaeus was in a tree seeking Jesus and Jesus answered the call. Jesus sat a well and spoke to a woman in sin He did not go to her place of Business. The Centurian came to Jesus, the women with the issues of Blood came to Jesus, even the demons ran to him and fell on the ground. ANd Jesus could do no mighty works in a place because of there unbelief. But we think going to a gay wedding or reception will have more success than Jesus did. I have not heard any testimony of a Christian winning a gay person to the lord at a gay wedding of Reception. it is always seen as some kind of seed sowing thing that may happen at a more later time. I have not heard of that happening of any yet, I will pray with you it does.
Zacchaeus was in a tree seeking Jesus and Jesus answered the call. Jesus sat a well and spoke to a woman in sin He did not go to her place of Business. The Centurian came to Jesus, the women with the issues of Blood came to Jesus, even the demons ran to him and fell on the ground. ANd Jesus could do no mighty works in a place because of there unbelief. But we think going to a gay wedding or reception will have more success than Jesus did. I have not heard any testimony of a Christian winning a gay person to the lord at a gay wedding of Reception. it is always seen as some kind of seed sowing thing that may happen at a more later time. I have not heard of that happening of any yet, I will pray with you it does.
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There is only one way attendance to the wedding from a biblical lens is justifiable.
“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mark 2:17
To let people there know that God considers it an abomination and that is is sinful and they need a saviour.
People seem to miss this completely.
“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mark 2:17
To let people there know that God considers it an abomination and that is is sinful and they need a saviour.
People seem to miss this completely.
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Not really. What would I pray. They just stop being gay and be saved. I think theres more to it. What about all the other people they know. Also, God doesnt answer some prayers for abominations. He cant make things right if the parties are not willing to do anything about it. GOd wants to know so we can have a conversation about it. He also wants to know what Ricky is going to actually DO about it.
Start a ministry? What kind? Has he acrually got any practical ways to minsiter to these people other than go to their weddings.
Start a ministry? What kind? Has he acrually got any practical ways to minsiter to these people other than go to their weddings.
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I actually agree with him on this (specifically)...I just read this in one of John's Epistles.
In regards to well wishing of others when they are clearly living contrary to the word. It's actually a pretty cool connection that deserves further consideration.
Edit: Alas, quoting didn't include what you quoted
Basically not wishing someone God's Speed. Which seemingly is one of the few take aways from that particular Epistles. It's cool because I didn't know the word spoke specifically about that.
In regards to well wishing of others when they are clearly living contrary to the word. It's actually a pretty cool connection that deserves further consideration.
Edit: Alas, quoting didn't include what you quoted
Basically not wishing someone God's Speed. Which seemingly is one of the few take aways from that particular Epistles. It's cool because I didn't know the word spoke specifically about that.
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Are you a blond? Because you didn't really respond to my post as I never said anything about homophobe at all. Are you making this stuff up as you go along? Who are you arguing with? Are you right all the time? Are you married? How does your wife respond to your conclusions? How do you know if I read my Bible or not? Are you spying on me?
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