Book On the 2nd Coming of Christ

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TheDivineWatermark

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DeighAnn said:
What is the question?
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Thank you, DA. My question was directed to dcon, who (in the post I had quoted) mentioned the word "firstfruit" and how it relates to "the 144,000" as well as to "Jesus"... so my question was,

Q: "Who do you believe James 1:18's "US [/WE (depending on version)]" refers to (...provided you don't think it refers to either "Jesus" or "the 144,000" [...]) ?"


...and then I quoted the verse I'm referring to:

"having counselled [or, of His own will], He did beget us with a word of truth, for our being a certain [G5100 (or, a kind) of the] first-fruit of His creatures [or, of His creation]."



...and then I mentioned:

"['a CERTAIN [G5100] [of the] firstfruit' would mean a particular one, of several distinct 'harvests,' as I see there to be in Scripture (not to mention, in nature)]"

https://biblehub.com/text/james/1-18.htm



... my question being toward the TOP of this present post, if that helps. :)
 
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TheDivineWatermark said:
Who do you believe James 1:18's "US [/WE (depending on version)]" refers to (...provided you don't think it refers to either "Jesus" or "the 144,000" [maybe you do, though?]), where it says,

"having counselled [or, of His own will], He did beget us with a word of truth, for our being a certain [G5100 (or, a kind) of the] first-fruit of His creatures [or, of His creation]."

['a CERTAIN [G5100] [of the] firstfruit' would mean a particular one, of several distinct 'harvests,' as I see there to be in Scripture (not to mention, in nature)]

https://biblehub.com/text/james/1-18.htm




[note: I believe that 2Th2:13 may also contain the word "firstfruit," as shown in some versions ['aparche' vs 'ap arche' in the Greek], but it's not likely you would agree with that, if you believe the KJV is the only accurate version. :) (there, the above question would be, concerning the "YOU" in this verse)]
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James states clearly who he is addressing.....Jewish believers that have been scattered broad......and he uses different verbiage than Revelation which uses the definite article (THE)

THE firstfruits unto GOD

A Certain "type" or KIND of the firstfruits

Two different groups, two different applications....EVERY word is inspired for a reason
 
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