Would Jesus drink Alcohol?

[ewq1938]

Habakkuk 2
Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!

That does not forbid the making of wine does it? Please stay on topic.

 

[posthuman]

What leads you to believe there are warnings first, like a PM?

because i was privy to some situations in the past and that was how it happened then.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

1 Corinthians 11:24,25
“And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.”
“After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.”

He is teaching us what to do by example.

AWESOME, glad, you found it

I will even say, I was WRONG!!

 

[oyster67]

I've compounded remedies for my family that contain alcohol. A dropper full is usually the dosage. As for stomach issues, I wrestled with this verse and have come to the opinion that....
A. Paul had the authority and insight from God to practice health. So did the priesthood under the O.T. law.
B. After my former pastor taught that the alcohol was to heal Timothy's ulcers from the nagging preacher lady in his congregation, I had to question that.
There are instructions to not permit that to occur. He likely would not permit it to happen and cause him that much stress to bring about ulcers. I know you aren't claiming that. It's just a personal experience from the pulpit I used to listen to as an illustration.

If Timothy had ulcers, alcohol would inflame and aggravate it, likely delay healing.
There are certain fruits that are common remedies for digestive health.
I'm not against the medicinal use of alcohol when it applies. I just have come to the opinion that this particular case was more likely the unfermented wine/ juice since I am unaware of alcohol for digestive tract healing.
For instance, I just made some hot juice/ tea from fruit to deal with a personal challenge. I might post the testimony elsewhere. Perhaps it will be a blessing to others.
It's not like the verse proves or disproves a doctrine. Since it's open ended without more details, we can't be certain IMHO. I agree that alcohol has it's place as medicine. I just don't think this is the verse to follow in regards to using it for digestive issues. YMMV and if it does, I am open to testimonials.

NyQuil; The cold and cough and so-you-can-rest medicine. My little sister could make the bottle disappear very quickly.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Most Old Greek Versions say's this, but you have found a translation that states otherwise.
i will accept that.

25. So after they had dined, he also gave the cup, and he said, "This cup is The New Covenant in my blood. You shall be so doing every time that you drink for my Memorial."

nothing about sipping.

 

[Cameron143]

NO, there's no Reason Jesus needs to eat His Own Flesh and Drink His Own Blood.

show me in the Bible why He needs to do that?

Why did Jesus get baptized? He had no sin. He said it was done to fulfill all righteousness.
Jesus was under a works covenant just as Adam was. As such, He had to fulfill the moral law, the ceremonial law, and commands that were particular to becoming qualified as Messiah.
Partaking in Passover and baptism would be a part of the ceremonial law.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Why did Jesus get baptized? He had no sin. He said it was done to fulfill all righteousness.
Jesus was under a works covenant just as Adam was. As such, He had to fulfill the moral law, the ceremonial law, and commands that were particular to becoming qualified as Messiah.
Partaking in Passover and baptism would be a part of the ceremonial law.

it's in the LAW to be Baptized.
Isn't there a claim, that He Fulfilled the LAW?

 

[Cameron143]

it's in the LAW to be Baptized.
Isn't there a claim, that He Fulfilled the LAW?

He hadn't fulfilled it until He declared...it is finished.
As far as baptism, I'm just going off His own words.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

He hadn't fulfilled it until He declared...it is finished.

what does that have to do with, it's the LAW to be Baptized, and He did what was is in the LAW?

 

[Fundaamental]

Why did Jesus get baptized? He had no sin. He said it was done to fulfill all righteousness.
Jesus was under a works covenant just as Adam was. As such, He had to fulfill the moral law, the ceremonial law, and commands that were particular to becoming qualified as Messiah.
Partaking in Passover and baptism would be a part of the ceremonial law.

I had an idea that when John the Baptist baptised Jesus, little did John know but Jesus took all the sins away from John.

In the old testament it was thought that quite often the sins would pass to the priest when who then would pass them to bull or calf or lamb or scapegoat or even an Azul, I've read it some where.

It could be John wasn't even aware Jesus did this for him.

I hope you like this idea, if not no worries, just don't get all Jewpiter with me 😁

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I had an idea that when John the Baptist baptised Jesus, little did John know but Jesus took all the sins away from John.

In the old testament it was thought that quite often the sins would pass to the priest when who then would pass them to bull or calf or lamb or scapegoat or even an Azul, I've read it some where.

It could be John wasn't even aware Jesus did this for him.

I hope you like this idea, if not no worries, just don't get all Jewpiter with me 😁

I have no issue with that viewpoint.
We only know what the Bible shows us.
but John wrote if they wrote down everything Jesus did, all the libraries in the world could not contain them.
So, it is possible.

 

[Cameron143]

what does that have to do with, it's the LAW to be Baptized, and He did what was is in the LAW?

Help me out then. I'm missing something in your argument. Can you state it again?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I have no issue with that viewpoint.
We only know what the Bible shows us.
but John wrote if they wrote down everything Jesus did, all the libraries in the world could not contain them.
So, it is possible.

this is why i wonder about Banning People.
Yes, if it goes against WHO GOD IS, definitely!
but, in all other Non Salvation matters, we really don't and only know, Jesus, did so many things, it's possible He did things not listed in the Bible.

 

[Eli1]

I just wanted to comment on the 'Review' of this site.

I visit a few Christian forums, just like most of you i'm guessing.
I find the balance here pretty good. Some forums swing too much on the left and some others swing on the right. I find the moderating style here not too heavy handed like the other sites and i honestly have never checked the rules since i've been here.
I haven't checked the rules in other sites too but one can tell if you're dealing with woke Twitter moderators (before Musk purchased it) or MAGA moderators.
But i did find some of the rules in another page. Not sure if these are all the rules but here they are:

Heresies (not all inclusive):
Rejection of the Deity/Eternality of Christ
Universalism (everyone ends up in heaven eventually)
Rejection of the Omniscience/Omnipotence/Omnipresence of God
Rejection of the Trinity

and honestly those seem pretty reasonable to me on a Christian forum for a ban. Otherwise this would be a car-mechanics forum or whatever type of forum.

I think that the user who was banned was saying strange stuff like Jesus is not a jew and things like that. He went flat-earth on that topic basically and again, here in the Internet you can't tell if people are trolling or being serious. This thread for example is hard to tell if it's trolling or if serious.

Just my 2 cents on this and i don't want to post any links to other forums but i'm guessing some of you know which are left-wing or right-wing and they have like 10 over-handed moderators.

I also appreciate the fact that there are no ads here.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Help me out then. I'm missing something in your argument. Can you state it again?

Jesus honored the food Laws, the animal Laws, the human Laws, and the spiritual Laws.
being Baptized in running Water, like a River, is one of the Laws we know He fulfilled.

 

[Cameron143]

I had an idea that when John the Baptist baptised Jesus, little did John know but Jesus took all the sins away from John.

In the old testament it was thought that quite often the sins would pass to the priest when who then would pass them to bull or calf or lamb or scapegoat or even an Azul, I've read it some where.

It could be John wasn't even aware Jesus did this for him.

I hope you like this idea, if not no worries, just don't get all Jewpiter with me 😁

It's an interesting thought. What do you think about John leaping in the womb at Mary's arrival?

 

[Ted01]

I also appreciate the fact that there are no ads here.

NyQuil; The cold and cough and so-you-can-rest medicine.

 

[Cameron143]

Jesus honored the food Laws, the animal Laws, the human Laws, and the spiritual Laws.
being Baptized in running Water, like a River, is one of the Laws we know He fulfilled.

Ok. So where does Passover fit? That's what was happening at the last supper.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Ok. So where does Passover fit? That's what was happening at the last supper.

Passover is Remembering Egypt and the Angel of Death Passed Over their Doors covered in the lamb's Blood

it's a Ceremonial Holiday like our Easter weekend

 

[Fundaamental]

It's an interesting thought. What do you think about John leaping in the womb at Mary's arrival?

I can't recall the verse