Woman first....what do you think?
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says the hypocrite....
1Ti 5:1
Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
1Ti 5:2
The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
Not only are you not anywhere even remotely close to being in the position of authority that Timothy was in, but you also have not been intreating/entreating the older women here (again, this member who you keep on calling "brother" is a SISTER...try reading people's profiles) as mothers, nor have you been intreating/entreating the younger women here as sisters with all purity. Quite frankly, you've been an arrogant (and ignorant) jerk. Are you planning on repenting of the same anytime soon, or will you continue to play the hypocrite yourself?
Back to 1 Timothy 2:11-15
1Ti 2:11
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
In context, which apparently means nothing at all to you, Paul was speaking of a husband and wife relationship. Hence his reference to Adam and Eve who, in case you have not heard, were the first husband and wife. This same Paul called marital relationships, of which Adam's and Eve's was the first, "a great mystery" in that human marriage was ordained by God to mirror the covenant between Christ and his church.
Eph 5:32
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
In other words, in the same manner in which Christ sacrificially laid his own life down for the church, a husband is to sacrificially lay his own life down for his wife. At the same time, in the same manner in which the church is to reverence Christ, a wife is to reverence HER OWN husband...and not wet-behind-the-ears wannabe "teachers" like you. This is the context of what Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 2:11-15, and it is the same context of what he wrote elsewhere. Like here, for example.
1Co 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Here, as in 1 Timothy 2:11-15, Paul was talking about proper order IN THE CHURCHES. In case nobody has yet informed you of this, this forum is not a church. Women are free to speak here, and no "novice" like you is going to stop them from doing so.
Also, in context, which, again, apparently means nothing at all to you, "your women" were the wives who were instructed to ask their husbands at home whatever they might have wanted to inquire about IN THE CHURCHES.
Is Snackersmom (or any of the other females here that you have been speaking arrogantly, ignorantly, disrespectfully, and hypocritically to) your wife? Last I checked, you are both single. Are you IN CHURCH? No. You are on a Christian forum where both men and women are free to share scriptures.
Anyhow, Paul's intended point, which you have sorely missed, is that the marital relationship was designed by God to represent the relationship between Christ and his church, and this is why he did not wives usurping authority over the own husbands in a church setting.
Now, let's see how you behave going forward.
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Although has no impact on me, I am curious as to why you keep pointing out male dominance and that i am not qualified to be a pastor?? I feel like there's more to your past or upbringing that has hurt you dearly....
It would mean no name-calling or petty insults, so If you disagree you need to communicate that respectfully. Deal? 🤝
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He knocked at the outer gate, and a servant girl named Rhoda came to answer it. When she recognized Peter’s voice,
she was so overjoyed that she forgot to open the gate, but ran inside and announced, “Peter is standing at the gate!”
“You are out of your mind,” they told her. But when she kept insisting it was so, they said, “It must be his angel.” But
Peter kept on knocking, and when they opened the door and saw him, they were astounded. Acts 12:13-16
she was so overjoyed that she forgot to open the gate, but ran inside and announced, “Peter is standing at the gate!”
“You are out of your mind,” they told her. But when she kept insisting it was so, they said, “It must be his angel.” But
Peter kept on knocking, and when they opened the door and saw him, they were astounded. Acts 12:13-16
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It was the woman who fell to temptation first in the garden (Genesis 3:6), it was a woman first who Jesus confessed to being (John 4:26), and it was women first who went to the tomb and who first met the risen Christ (Matthew 28:5)(John 20:15)
Nothing is by coincidence with God, so what do you think ?
Nothing is by coincidence with God, so what do you think ?
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