Will people who miss the rapture have a chance to be saved?

[GRACE_ambassador]

I see it that `dying to self` is a daily process as The Holy Spirit reveals more to us and we continue to humble ourselves under His Mighty Hand.

Amen, Precious friend, been at this 43 years, and New Light hit me today

1Co_15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord,
I die daily.

Rom_12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the Mercies of God, that ye
present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is
your reasonable service.

The things available in His Inexhaustible Mine Of Precious Gems, eh?

GRACE And Peace...

 

[Rhomphaeam]

The children of God went through the sea, on dry land even the army that followed got swallowed up.

The children of Israel were baptised into Moses and the Sea - and yet they rebelled 10 times against the Lord.

Exodus 14:10-12
Exodus 15:22-24
Exodus 16:1-3
Exodus 16:19-20
Exodus 16:27-30
Exodus 17:1-4
Exodus 32:1-35
Numbers 11:1-3
Numbers 11:4-34
Numbers 14:1-3

Then they were turned back into the wilderness and refused entrance into the Land. So whilst they died in the wilderness they knew not hunger, or thirst and neither the decay of their clothes. It is a curious picture, brother. It almost upholds your list of pleas to the sister you pleaded with @#80. The difficulty may simply be that when we embrace one truth we often reject another qualifying truth.

The time of Jacobs trouble will not last 40 years.

 

[TMS]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

Firstly The Bible does not teach a secret rapture, Every eye shall see Him.
The bible tells me that when the judgement is finished it is finished. Judgement happens before the return of Jesus and All people that have ever lived have been judged as saved or not saved when He comes. "His reward is with Him"
Please read the verses.....

Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev_21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Rev_22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Rom_14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
2Co_5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 

[Rhomphaeam]

Firstly The Bible does not teach a secret rapture, Every eye shall see Him

Every eye shall see Him [The Lord] yet rapture does not mean those who snatched away - and neither does His reward mean to measure the gift of eternal life or even to confirm it in those who see His coming with their own eyes. Else His reward is to make new life a meritous possession.

 

[studentoftheword]

Will people who miss the rapture have a chance to be saved?

Yes ---- many --many --many ---many unbelievers will come to Christ during the Tribulation ---His Gospel will be preached by the 12 tribes of Israel 144,000 Jews and the 2 Witnesses all over the world ----so many will receive Salvation -----

https://www.gotquestions.org/144000.html

These 144,000 Jews are “sealed,” which means they have the special protection of God. They are kept safe from the divine judgments and from the wrath of the Antichrist. They can freely perform their mission during the tribulation. It had been previously prophesied that Israel would repent and turn back to God (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and the 144,000 Jews seem to be a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of that redeemed Israel.
Their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ.

 

[godlovejoy]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

Yes...They will be judged at the Second resurrection 1,000 years later...at the Great White Throne Judgement. If they are found in the book of life they will be saved.

 

[DavidTree]

Its hard to talk about this for (oh I use to ALLOT) we can and not even know is allowing our personal belief become the truth. One brother said God never said (out of His mouth)Pre-trib. True.. yet mid-trib, post-trib also GOD never spoke. "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world." He also before this said "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also"

Now no where in the word did He say or mean or really said "so where you are I will be". We all know He went back to the Father and we know that is where He prepared a place for us. I can not speak about those that didn't search enough and find so many that preached taught about Christ coming before the great tribulation 300-400ad (that one I found read others I didn't) and many before that. That does not prove anything other then some believed He was coming before. That is what I get when I read the word yet I cannot find it clearly written.

The same for post-trib..its not clearly written. Before Christ came and up to this very moment there are so many things God has done that is no written and most say nothing about that. Sorry but who are we again to say Christ can ONLY come take us after the great tribulation? Its not written.

Man what I have found out about my Father is... if I speak it believe it and its goes against HIs word He will say nothing and will not go against my will. Think how many times to you speak negative not word of life? What if you ONLY spoke what HE said..you know those promises? What if you just believed that? To simple trust in Him you are covered in mercy " But he who trusts in the LORD, mercy shall surround him." .

I ask you from my heart as your bother to pease watch how we speak of these things for many are weak in the faith. To lead just ONE the wrong way we don't answer to man but to a GOD! Best learn repent here. So maybe say "this is what I believe and why",

I LOVE believing at any moment He will come back for me.. He said it would. Its MAN its believers telling me "nope what He really meant was". His word is not saying it. So I love love love thinking about Him every moment... knowing He will come.. is this HOPE I am speaking about now? Guess what song is playing right this second. "YOU KEEP HOPE ALIVE"...what are the odds..again thankyou Father.

So I am ready now.. a I can't find pre mid or post and no way (forgive me) will I put my faith in what someone that has no more info then I. So I am ready now.. I will not miss Him. Those that are still here.. salvation is not gone.. its just He (something) that was holding the lawless one back was taken out of the way. We have all power NOW yet during the great tribulation ..Satan is given power over the saints? That does not bother you? YOU HAVE all power all authority over the enemy.. that will NEVER be taken away.. its christ in you.

Sorry I went on so long.. and sorry. no writer..

The LORD said: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Why do you reject the words of Christ??? = CLEAR as Day = Clear as the Day of His Coming

Please search the scriptures and see if you find the LORD or the Apostles giving a directive:

A.) that Christ will come before the Resurrection to rapture His Elect/Saints/Bride
and
B.) then come back again for a Third Coming to Resurrect the Dead in Him
and/or
C.) a rapture that occurs BEFORE His Second Coming and the Resurrection of the Dead in HIM

This would clear up the confusion and be a great blessing for the Body of Christ.

 

[Marilyn]

I am not concerned by anyone believing that they have to go through the tribulation - other than as a concern for their mental health if they fearfully believe that this means will bring them to a state of worthiness.

I was simply narrating a meaning (whilst not upholding the Time of Jacobs Trouble claim you were answering. The reason for that is because whilst I can receive your statement that dying to ourselves is a daily obedience [your process] that meaning necessarily must have some fruit. I believe that the question you answered was improperly constructed. Nevertheless, can we say that the churches are ready for Christ as a thief in the night?

That cannot be the case seeing there are so many difficulties in the churches. So how much time do we have to dress in readiness? In my own calling and revelation given by the Father we may have no more than a dozen years to come to obedience and deny ourselves before the churches will be snatched away.

I cannot see that being snatched away in a state of fleshy self interest will produce an easy entrance into the Kingdom to come. In that meaning I can see why you were asked the question you answered.

I think you are confusing the `Church system` (which man had built) and the `Church` the called out ones whom God the Father made Head of. (Eph. 1: 22 & 23)

To measure the Lord`s building and maturing His Body by person`s on seats in a public meeting is, I believe not right. It`s like giving the Lord a bad report card, and saying He was not able to build and mature His Body, as He said.

Also the Lord does NOT come to His Body `as a thief.`

`But you brethren are NOT in darkness that this day should overtake you as a thief.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

`But exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the MORE AS YOU SEE the day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

No one is going to be snatched away in a state of self interest, (as you say) for the eyes of their heart will be on earthly things. They will not hear in their spirit, the `Come up here,` (or however the Holy Spirit stirs us).

Also I think we have less than a dozen MONTHS, (based on Jewish calendar and God`s purposes).

 

[Marilyn]

And so Gods wrath doesn't fall on us. DOES IT SAY IT DOESN'T FALL AROUND US or is that your personal belief. Remember the plagues in Egypt? Didn't touch the children of God nor their animals. Do you not have faith in the power of God to have wrath fall on them while not touching you? The children of God went through the sea, on dry land even the army that followed got swallowed up. Don't you have faith in the power of God? The ground swallowed up Korah and family and all the rest but not one other. Don't you have faith in the power of God? The alive and remaining aren't changed until Christ returns so how would they get to heaven? He is coming here. He is coming here. Will His enemies have been made His footstool pre trib? no What did God say? UNTIL...

HOW CAN ANY ONE DISREGARD VERSES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN FAVOR OF VERSES THAT NEVER WERE? I just don't get it.

Why do you think we keep asking you the same question?

Answer HOPING AND PRAYING ONE DAY YOU WILL HEAR THE VERY FIRST WORDS OF THE MINISTRY OF JESUS.

Because if you do, then you will understand.



Think about it. PRE TRIB DISREGARDS THE WORDS OF GOD THAT ARE WRITTEN IN FAVOR OF WORDS THAT AREN'T AND ON TOP OF THAT CONFLICT WITH THOSE THAT ARE.

Yes bro, I do have faith in God to `keep what I have committed to Him until that day.` (2 Tim. 1: 12)

However the focus is NOT what I believe about God`s power, BUT what God has purposed through His Son. That is God`s focus and mine too.

 

[kleronomos]

The children of Israel were baptised into Moses and the Sea - and yet they rebelled 10 times against the Lord.

Exodus 14:10-12
Exodus 15:22-24
Exodus 16:1-3
Exodus 16:19-20
Exodus 16:27-30
Exodus 17:1-4
Exodus 32:1-35
Numbers 11:1-3
Numbers 11:4-34
Numbers 14:1-3

Then they were turned back into the wilderness and refused entrance into the Land. So whilst they died in the wilderness they knew not hunger, or thirst and neither the decay of their clothes. It is a curious picture, brother. It almost upholds your list of pleas to the sister you pleaded with @#80. The difficulty may simply be that when we embrace one truth we often reject another qualifying truth.

The time of Jacobs trouble will not last 40 years.

That is why GOD hates false doctrine. It is easy to teach people the truth. It is like trying to take out an eye with just your fingers to give up what is already believed. We see it day in and day out. The most simple sentence is put forth and the mind just wont accept it.

BUT WHERE is the FAITH in the power of God? WE KNOW the HOLY SPIRIT will be speaking through people during this time. The two witnesses will be here preaching and teaching and performing miracles of their own. Satan will be doing his own miracles. We are not to fear death of the flesh anyways. It will be the time in between the two ages where they overlap for a bit, like when Christ walked the earth and we went from the old to the new. I would have loved to have been here for that!!!


Certainly not 40 years, I agree, it will only REALLY last an hour (5 months from what I understand). Who can't do an hour FOR CHRIST'S SAKE?

 

[Rhomphaeam]

I think you are confusing the `Church system` (which man had built) and the `Church` the called out ones whom God the Father made Head of. (Eph. 1: 22 & 23)

To measure the Lord`s building and maturing His Body by person`s on seats in a public meeting is, I believe not right. It`s like giving the Lord a bad report card, and saying He was not able to build and mature His Body, as He said.

Also the Lord does NOT come to His Body `as a thief.`

`But you brethren are NOT in darkness that this day should overtake you as a thief.` (1 Thess. 5: 4)

`But exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another, and so much the MORE AS YOU SEE the day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

No one is going to be snatched away in a state of self interest, (as you say) for the eyes of their heart will be on earthly things. They will not hear in their spirit, the `Come up here,` (or however the Holy Spirit stirs us).

Also I think we have less than a dozen MONTHS, (based on Jewish calendar and God`s purposes).

Those are disappointing answers and dishonest ones at that. Shalom.

 

[Rhomphaeam]

That is why GOD hates false doctrine. It is easy to teach people the truth. It is like trying to take out an eye with just your fingers to give up what is already believed. We see it day in and day out. The most simple sentence is put forth and the mind just wont accept it.

BUT WHERE is the FAITH in the power of God? WE KNOW the HOLY SPIRIT will be speaking through people during this time. The two witnesses will be here preaching and teaching and performing miracles of their own. Satan will be doing his own miracles. We are not to fear death of the flesh anyways. It will be the time in between the two ages where they overlap for a bit, like when Christ walked the earth and we went from the old to the new. I would have loved to have been here for that!!!


Certainly not 40 years, I agree, it will only REALLY last an hour (5 months from what I understand). Who can't do an hour FOR CHRIST'S SAKE?

False doctrine is of course a profound problem. And exhortation that arises from false doctrine (whilst in character is the same as exhorting in the truth - unlike the truth) false doctrine sows unbelievable harm. On reading your comments I believe that I agree with your exhortation to the brethren - to a faith that believes in the power of God. Yet in its balance - your comment about a single sentence is refused tells of its seeming absence. And added to that - another poster falsely asserts that this absence of God's power is to speak of giving the Lord a bad report card, and saying He was not able to build and mature His Body. It is to speak of a mystery and to miss the effectual labour. You write of that meaning in your two witnesses comment in a sense - albeit that you also describe that time as an overlapping period of time - which of course it would in your meaning be such a time in the presence of the two witnesses and in the face of the Man of Sin and near advent of Christ.

 

[kleronomos]

False doctrine is of course a profound problem. And exhortation that arises from false doctrine (whilst in character is the same as exhorting in the truth - unlike the truth) false doctrine sows unbelievable harm. On reading your comments I believe that I agree with your exhortation to the brethren - to a faith that believes in the power of God. Yet in its balance - your comment about a single sentence is refused tells of its seeming absence. And added to that - another poster falsely asserts that this absence of God's power is to speak of giving the Lord a bad report card, and saying He was not able to build and mature His Body. It is to speak of a mystery and to miss the effectual labour. You write of that meaning in your two witnesses comment in a sense - albeit that you also describe that time as an overlapping period of time - which of course it would in your meaning be such a time in the presence of the two witnesses and in the face of the Man of Sin and near advent of Christ.

Yes, it would be such a same time, months or days.

 

[Marilyn]

Those are disappointing answers and dishonest ones at that. Shalom.

Hi Rhomphaem,

I can only write what I believe. So it is also disappointing when you do not reply and point out what you think is error.

Isn`t that why we are here for discussion?

 

[Marilyn]

And added to that - another poster falsely asserts that this absence of God's power is to speak of giving the Lord a bad report card, and saying He was not able to build and mature His Body. .

i see you have written a reply but in a post to another. Why is that? Couldn`t you say that to me it would have been helpful.

Now I do not see that God is absent with His great power, if that is what you think I meant.

The Father told His Son to `sit at His right hand till He made His enemies His footstool.` (Ps.110: 1) Thus that is what we are seeing. God the Father has brought the nations of the world into 4 great Federations, (Dan. 7: 1 - 7) (though one is still forming) and now He is starting to judge them, starting with the northern Federation. (Zech. 6: 1 - 8, Rev. 6: 1 - 8)

 

[Rhomphaeam]

It is to speak of a mystery and to miss the effectual labour.

i see you have written a reply but in a post to another. Why is that?

If I had intended to add to what I said to yourself already, sister, then I would have written directly to yourself.

The text in red from the same post you cited to raise your own question is what I really said to yourself. And that was also to another.

That meaning speaks about the body of Christ and that is where my burden lies. It also speaks into how Christ will judge His house - even unto death if that is the end of rebellion. In that meaning it speaks about the prophetic ministry - and not the pastoral ministry. In all it speaks about the effectual labour. So rather than seeing the churches - I look to the body of Christ - yet it is the churches that are presently corrupted by reason of the flesh and in some instances by doctrines of demons. It's a kingdom of heaven likened unto a field. Yet is is to be revealed as the Church when the Lord returns..

Your power of God meaning in your words, "The Father told His Son to `sit at His right hand till He made His enemies His footstool.` (Ps.110: 1) Thus that is what we are seeing. God the Father has brought the nations o the world into 4 great Federations, (Dan. 7: 1 - 7) (though one is still forming) and now He is starting to judge them, starting with the northern Federation. (Zech. 6: 1 - 8, Rev. 6: 1 - 8)" speaks about His enemies - I am speaking about His friends.

I was conscious not to be contentious with your own beliefs as you clarify in your expression in post @#94 - and in that restraint I thought it best to hide my meaning rather than contend when you said to another @#76:

Dying to self is often harder than dying once. So no, I don`t see we, the Body of Christ will go through the chastisement for Israel and the judgments upon a rebellious world. Christ paid the price.

To which I said @#77

Sister, doesn't your answer inflect a presumptuous obedience and a proven Galatians 2:20 meaning of all those who are born again? Your predicative clausal statement "Dying to self is often harder than dying once." determines the second statement. In that lies a presumption of obedience - chiefly that all believers die to themselves. I am assuming that is a Romans 6:6 meaning - yet what of our walk?

The fracture in a more general meaning is a use of the term, Jacobs Trouble that you were posting to @ your #76 and his #75 - and a belief in a rapture out of it [your own meaning]. My comment to yourself @ my #77 was neither of those two things. Though I did go on to discuss with the brother his particular meaning. I did not discuss with yourself some of your points. And I did refer to yourself indirectly to that same brother - expressing my understanding that I saw that you did not see my own meaning. It is easily missed - yet you saw those words - even if he did not see any great significance to their ordinary meaning. If that is a fault then it is my fault. I knew what I was doing, sister.

 

[TheLearner]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

Yes

 

[Marilyn]

If I had intended to add to what I said to yourself already, sister, then I would have written directly to yourself.

The text in red from the same post you cited to raise your own question is what I really said to yourself. And that was also to another.

That meaning speaks about the body of Christ and that is where my burden lies. It also speaks into how Christ will judge His house - even unto death if that is the end of rebellion. In that meaning it speaks about the prophetic ministry - and not the pastoral ministry. In all it speaks about the effectual labour. So rather than seeing the churches - I look to the body of Christ - yet it is the churches that are presently corrupted by reason of the flesh and in some instances by doctrines of demons. It's a kingdom of heaven likened unto a field. Yet is is to be revealed as the Church when the Lord returns..

Your power of God meaning in your words, "The Father told His Son to `sit at His right hand till He made His enemies His footstool.` (Ps.110: 1) Thus that is what we are seeing. God the Father has brought the nations o the world into 4 great Federations, (Dan. 7: 1 - 7) (though one is still forming) and now He is starting to judge them, starting with the northern Federation. (Zech. 6: 1 - 8, Rev. 6: 1 - 8)" speaks about His enemies - I am speaking about His friends.

I was conscious not to be contentious with your own beliefs as you clarify in your expression in post @#94 - and in that restraint I thought it best to hide my meaning rather than contend when you said to another @#76:



To which I said @#77



The fracture in a more general meaning is a use of the term, Jacobs Trouble that you were posting to @ your #76 and his #75 - and a belief in a rapture out of it [your own meaning]. My comment to yourself @ my #77 was neither of those two things. Though I did go on to discuss with the brother his particular meaning. I did not discuss with yourself some of your points. And I did refer to yourself indirectly to that same brother - expressing my understanding that I saw that you did not see my own meaning. It is easily missed - yet you saw those words - even if he did not see any great significance to their ordinary meaning. If that is a fault then it is my fault. I knew what I was doing, sister.

I find you very wordy and difficult to understand. You keep pointing to this post or that but never really addressing what I write and clearly showing how it is wrong.

It seems to me a spirit of confusion is there.

 

[Rhomphaeam]

I find you very wordy and difficult to understand. You keep pointing to this post or that but never really addressing what I write and clearly showing how it is wrong.

I was conscious not to be contentious with your own beliefs as you clarify in your expression in post @#94 - and in that restraint I thought it best to hide my meaning rather than contend......

Same applies here.

It seems to me a spirit of confusion is there.

If my manner of words only seems like something, then you don't need to ascribe a spirit to its meaning.

When you say something is difficult to understand that may be a plain statement. Telling the same person that their words seem like a spirit of confusion is no longer mere ability - it becomes a spiritual claim.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Its hard to talk about this for (oh I use to ALLOT) we can and not even know is allowing our personal belief become the truth. One brother said God never said (out of His mouth)Pre-trib. True.. yet mid-trib, post-trib also GOD never spoke. "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world." He also before this said "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also"

Now no where in the word did He say or mean or really said "so where you are I will be". We all know He went back to the Father and we know that is where He prepared a place for us. I can not speak about those that didn't search enough and find so many that preached taught about Christ coming before the great tribulation 300-400ad (that one I found read others I didn't) and many before that. That does not prove anything other then some believed He was coming before. That is what I get when I read the word yet I cannot find it clearly written.

The same for post-trib..its not clearly written. Before Christ came and up to this very moment there are so many things God has done that is no written and most say nothing about that. Sorry but who are we again to say Christ can ONLY come take us after the great tribulation? Its not written.

Man what I have found out about my Father is... if I speak it believe it and its goes against HIs word He will say nothing and will not go against my will. Think how many times to you speak negative not word of life? What if you ONLY spoke what HE said..you know those promises? What if you just believed that? To simple trust in Him you are covered in mercy " But he who trusts in the LORD, mercy shall surround him." .

I ask you from my heart as your bother to pease watch how we speak of these things for many are weak in the faith. To lead just ONE the wrong way we don't answer to man but to a GOD! Best learn repent here. So maybe say "this is what I believe and why",

I LOVE believing at any moment He will come back for me.. He said it would. Its MAN its believers telling me "nope what He really meant was". His word is not saying it. So I love love love thinking about Him every moment... knowing He will come.. is this HOPE I am speaking about now? Guess what song is playing right this second. "YOU KEEP HOPE ALIVE"...what are the odds..again thankyou Father.

So I am ready now.. a I can't find pre mid or post and no way (forgive me) will I put my faith in what someone that has no more info then I. So I am ready now.. I will not miss Him. Those that are still here.. salvation is not gone.. its just He (something) that was holding the lawless one back was taken out of the way. We have all power NOW yet during the great tribulation ..Satan is given power over the saints? That does not bother you? YOU HAVE all power all authority over the enemy.. that will NEVER be taken away.. its christ in you.

Sorry I went on so long.. and sorry. no writer..

"Rapture" is just a made up term for the final glorification of both the living and the dead at the second coming of Jesus. By no means does it imply a sudden disappearance or an ascension like how Jesus ascended into heaven. The way I see it, this false doctrine is nothing but a marketing tool to target those Laodiceans to whom the sole purpose of Christianity is for the prize of a ticket to heaven for the next life. We're just gonna pass away like all past generations, and we're facing unprecedented challenges with no easy way out, so as you said, we'd better get ready like the five wise virgins. "Do business till I come" or "occupy till I return", (Luke 19:13) same motif from the parable of talents. God will make way through the waters and walk us through the fires, nowhere in the bible says he'll snap us out of it. Even if that he does, if we're not ready, we wouldn't be on the list.