Will people who miss the rapture have a chance to be saved?

[John146]

THIS HARVEST IS IS DIRECT CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Are there three parts to a harvest? Is Christ the firstfruits of those that slept? Who makes up the gathering? Who makes up the gleanings? Study 1 Corinthians 15 where the resurrection is likened unto a harvest.

 

[John146]

THIS HARVEST IS IS DIRECT CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

At this point in Matthew, the future body of Christ made up of mostly Gentiles is in mystery form.

 

[kleronomos]

Are there three parts to a harvest? Is Christ the firstfruits of those that slept? Who makes up the gathering? Who makes up the gleanings? Study 1 Corinthians 15 where the resurrection is likened unto a harvest.

And so how do you account for it?

 

[Marilyn]

The Feasts of God are His calendar for His purposes for Israel.

The Body of Christ receives of Christ`s fulfillment of the early Feasts - Passover, First- Fruits and Pentecost, but we are a parenthesis (...) before the final fulfillment for Israel of the last 3 feasts. These are in the trib, and the millennium.

 

[Oblio]

Will people who miss the rapture have a chance to be saved?
After reading scripture for nearly 50 years, and hearing a plethora of divergent views for as long, I have decided this...I don't know, I hope so!

 

[JStates]

Yes, because Revelation talks about 144,000 Jews being saved

If you are alive and refuse the Beast's Mark you can still be saved

 

[Nehemiah6]

I will ask what time can come after the last day. Please note Jesus does not say last days or last day of.. He just says last day.

The "last day" is a period of time just as "the day of the LORD" is a period of time. Neither of these are simply 24 hour days.

Getting back to the question, after the Rapture only those who had not already rejected the Gospel and rejected Christ will have a chance to be saved. And here is the reason why: Even him [the Antichrist], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess 2:9-12)

 

[birdie]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

Jesus comes from heaven with the gospel. That is the voice of the Archangel. Those who believe and are washed free from sin will be saved. Those who do not will not be saved. When God opens up the heart of a person to hear the gospel and to believe on him for salvation, that is when they are saved.

 

[Gideon300]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

Yes. The way I see it, a great many people attend church and hold to Christian values, but they are not saved. Those people will miss the rapture. They will find that there is no fence to sit on. Either they accept the mark of beast and have temporary life or they reject in favour of Christ and lose their lives immediately. Those who accept the MOB have no more hope.

 

[kleronomos]

The "last day" is a period of time just as "the day of the LORD" is a period of time. Neither of these are simply 24 hour days.

Getting back to the question, after the Rapture only those who had not already rejected the Gospel and rejected Christ will have a chance to be saved. And here is the reason why: Even him [the Antichrist], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess 2:9-12)

WHAT?

THAT ISN'T HOW THE ORIGINAL TEXTS PUT IT SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD.

1 We implore
2065 make an earnest request by someone from a preferred position (Such requesting receives special consideration because of the special relationship involved).

now you brothers
by
5228 on behalf of, for the sake of, concerning

the coming
3952 a presence, a coming an arrival, advent,
arrive to enter into a situation especially the arrival of the owner who alone can deal with a situation, the personal presence, the future visible return from heaven of Jesus

of the Lord of us Jesus Christ and our
gathering together
1997 episynagoge - a specific grouping together that fulfills the specific purpose of the gathering together
FROM EPISUNAGO - a complete collection

unto Him
2 for not quickly to be shaken you in mind nor to be troubled neither by spirit nor by word nor by letter as if by us as that IS PRESENT the day of the Lord

3 No one you should deceive in not one way because if not
shall have come
2064 to come, go
to come into being, arise, come forth, show itself, find place or influence:
to come from one place into another and used both of persons arriving and of those returning, appear, enter,


the apostasy
646 defection, revolt
(FROM APHISTEMI 'LEAVE, DEPART'
which is derived from 575 apo 'away from' and 2476 histemi, 'stand')
properly departure (IMPLYING DESERTION) literally 'a leaving from a previous standing'
a falling away from the true religion
defection from the true religion
apostasy
Feminine of the same as apostasion defection from truth, forsake
647 apostasion
a forsaking, specifically DIVORCE
repudiation, divorce (bill of divorce)


first and
shall have been revealed
601 apokalupto to uncover, reveal
passages of persons, previously concealed, making their appearance in public: of Christ, who will return from heaven where he is now hidden (Colossians 3:3) to the earth, Luke 17:30; of Anti-christ, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 6, 8.

the man of lawlessness the son of destruction


4 the opposing and exalting himself above every so-called god or object of worship so as for him in the temple of God to sit down setting forth he himself that is God

5 Not do you remember that YET being with you, these things I was saying to you?

6 And now that which is restraining you know (as just shown us, the Apostasy and Satan doing his thing is what is holding back the RETURN OF CHRIST AND OUR GATHERING TO HIM)

for to be revealed him in his time
(SATAN will be revealed in his time and only after THAT is it POSSIBLE for the Lord to return. THE Lord can not come before Satan is revealed and Satan will not be REVEALED until AFTER he has sat proclaiming to be God)


7 The for mystery already is working of lawlessness only the restraining at present until
out of midst
1537 ek (a preposition, written eks before a vowel) – properly, "out from and to"
γίνομαι ἐκ μέσου, to be taken out of the way, to disappear, 2 Thessalonians 2:7; with the genitive of pers, ἐκ μέσου τινων, from the society or company of, out from among:

he might be

8 And then will be revealed the lawless whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of the mouth of Him and will annul by the appearing of the coming of Him, whose is coming

according
2596. kata
Strong's Concordance
kata: down, against, according to
Original Word: κατά
Part of Speech: Preposition
Transliteration: kata
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ah')
Definition: down, against, according to
Usage: gen: against, down from, throughout, by; acc: over against, among, daily, day-by-day, each day, according to, by way of.
HELPS Word-studies
2596 katá (a preposition, governing two grammatical cases) – properly, "down from, i.e. from a higher to a lower plane, with special reference to the terminus (end-point)" (J. Thayer).

[2596 (katá) is written 'kat' or 'kath' before a vowel. So too, kata loses the final a before an initial diphthong (cf. BDF § 17; MH 61-62; R 206-208).

2596 /katá ("bring down exactly, complete") is "opposite" to 303 /aná ("bring up to completion").]

to working of Satan in every power and in signs and in wonders of falsehood

DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

 

[kleronomos]

WHAT EXACTLY IS WRITTEN ABOUT THE EVENTS TO TAKE PLACE PRE TRIB?



Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, A SINGLE WORD, WRITTEN ANYWHERE THAT TELLS US ABOUT WHAT TAKES PLACE


IN THE

PRE TRIBULATION PERIOD? BECAUSE SO FAR, THIS IS ALL CHRIST HAS SAID ON THE SUBJECT.

 

[peldom10]

Will people who miss the rapture have a chance to be saved?
After reading scripture for nearly 50 years, and hearing a plethora of divergent views for as long, I have decided this...I don't know, I hope so!

We must address the question...what would prevent them from being born again? The Bible does not say that once the rapture that...grace ...would be cancelled. Repentance, baptism and living righteously will still be the challenge, etc.

This question often arises because of the presence of the AC. Because of His controls the folks seeking repentance, baptism and living for Christ is taboo and those folks will be martyred. After all, the AC is in control and will not allow anything related to Christ to be seen.

 

[Oblio]

I would choose guillotine.

 

[Chester]

How do you know there is a rapture of the church in the first place? I'm only aware of a second coming after the great tribulation. Hebrews 9:28, "so Christ also, having been offered ONCE to bear the sins of many shall appear a SECOND TIME for salvation/deliverance without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him."

And btw, there are no second chances at least according to Hebrews 9:27, the verse just before Hebrews 9:28, "And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this the judgment." As a side note this verse also shoots down the idea of reincarnation.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

Hebrew 9:27 says men only die once. But those left behind at the rapture do not die; they are still very much alive. It is not a "second chance" that they are getting. It is still their first life and their first chance.

 

[peldom10]

I would choose guillotine.

Why not choose repentance, baptism and a life of righteousness to leave here in the rapture?

 

[Omegatime]

I am firm with the pre-tribulation rapture. Those who are left will enter the wrath of God which includes the seals, trumpet and bowl judgements and those that enter are all unrighteous. Many also will be saved in the tribulation.

 

[Nehemiah6]

DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

Do you have any clue about what is being discussed?

 

[DanielLL]

My question is those who miss the rapture will they have a chance to be saved? Thank you

I am firm with the pre-tribulation rapture.

Those left behind are the only ones who have a change to be saved:

2 Esdras 13:23 He that shall endure the peril in that time hath kept himself: they that be fallen into danger are such as have works, and faith toward the Almighty.
24 Know this therefore, that they which be left behind are more blessed than they that be dead.

 

[Runningman]

Those left behind are the only ones who have a change to be saved:

2 Esdras 13:23 He that shall endure the peril in that time hath kept himself: they that be fallen into danger are such as have works, and faith toward the Almighty.
24 Know this therefore, that they which be left behind are more blessed than they that be dead.

2 Esdras? 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[DanielLL]

2 Esdras? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Ezra, more beloved than the "greatly beloved" Daniel. He was given the interpretation that Daniel had "no understanding" of.