Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Why did Satan enter Judas when the passover was approaching. He didn't have satan in him before that, when he was chosen by Jesus?
Satan came in while the passover was approaching and not before that why?
So Judas didnt have satan in him before the passover and wasnt a devil the nearly the whole time as a disciple.
Luke 22:1-4 New International Version (NIV)
Judas Agrees to Betray Jesus
22 Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was approaching, 2 and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some way to get rid of Jesus, for they were afraid of the people. 3 Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. 4 And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus.
Satan came in while the passover was approaching and not before that why?
So Judas didnt have satan in him before the passover and wasnt a devil the nearly the whole time as a disciple.
Luke 22:1-4 New International Version (NIV)
Judas Agrees to Betray Jesus
22 Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was approaching, 2 and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were looking for some way to get rid of Jesus, for they were afraid of the people. 3 Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. 4 And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus.
Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
You have the wrong kind of hope which is not uncertain. Unlike the english word "hope," the N.T. word contains no uncertainty; it speaks of something that is certain. - Strong's #1680 elpís (from elpō, "to anticipate, welcome") – properly, expectation of what is sure (certain); hope. If we have saving faith then we have this hope. Faith is the assurance of things HOPED for.. (Hebrews 11:1). So that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the HOPE of eternal life (Titus 3:7).
Faith is the ROOT of salvation and good works are the FRUIT. No fruit at all would demonstrate that there is no root. It's your connection of faith and good works that fails because you teach that BOTH faith AND works are the root of salvation because you teach salvation by faith and works.
You have the wrong kind of hope which is not uncertain. Unlike the english word "hope," the N.T. word contains no uncertainty; it speaks of something that is certain. - Strong's #1680 elpís (from elpō, "to anticipate, welcome") – properly, expectation of what is sure (certain); hope. If we have saving faith then we have this hope. Faith is the assurance of things HOPED for.. (Hebrews 11:1). So that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the HOPE of eternal life (Titus 3:7).
Faith is the ROOT of salvation and good works are the FRUIT. No fruit at all would demonstrate that there is no root. It's your connection of faith and good works that fails because you teach that BOTH faith AND works are the root of salvation because you teach salvation by faith and works.
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Where does it say this passage relates to Judas?
John 1:10-13 New International Version (NIV)
10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
John 1:10-13 New International Version (NIV)
10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
Jesus referred to Judas as a devil before the betrayal (John 6:70) and Jesus also said that Judas was unclean before the betrayal (John 13:10-11). Judas didn't need to have the devil actually enter him from the beginning or betray Jesus from the beginning in order for him to be an unbelieving, unclean devil. You are really grasping for straws now in an effort to accommodate your biased doctrine at all costs. 
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Jesus referred to Judas as a devil before the betrayal (John 6:70) and Jesus also said that Judas was unclean before the betrayal (John 13:10-11). Judas didn't need to have the devil actually enter him from the beginning or betray Jesus from the beginning in order for him to be an unbelieving, unclean devil. You are really grasping for straws now in an effort to accommodate your biased doctrine at all costs.
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Jesus knew from the beginning which ones didn’t believe, and he knew who would betray him.)
JUDAS WAS in the group of 12 disciples, this lot didnt walk away because they "believed ".
68 Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life. 69 (We believe), and we know you are the Holy One of God
65 Then he said, “That is why I said that people can’t come to me unless the Father gives them to me.”
66 At this point many of his disciples turned away and deserted him. 67 Then Jesus turned to the Twelve and asked, “Are you also going to leave?”
68 Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life. 69 We believe, and we know you are the Holy One of God.[a]”
70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.” 71 He was speaking of Judas, son of Simon Iscariot, one of the Twelve, who would later betray him.
The time frame isnt stated.
JUDAS WAS in the group of 12 disciples, this lot didnt walk away because they "believed ".
68 Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life. 69 (We believe), and we know you are the Holy One of God
65 Then he said, “That is why I said that people can’t come to me unless the Father gives them to me.”
66 At this point many of his disciples turned away and deserted him. 67 Then Jesus turned to the Twelve and asked, “Are you also going to leave?”
68 Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life. 69 We believe, and we know you are the Holy One of God.[a]”
70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.” 71 He was speaking of Judas, son of Simon Iscariot, one of the Twelve, who would later betray him.
The time frame isnt stated.
I copied it from my FB page. I get regular quotes posted. Not sure if it’s from one of his books, maybe a sermon. I studied his life and writings after seeing some of his quotes a few decades ago. He heard the gospel being preached in the parking lot of a tire plant parking lot as he was going in to work.
I retired after 38 years of walking into a tire plant, so I have an affinity for his writings. He studied and opened a small church. He was rejected by mainstream religion of the time. He lived what he peached, that to me is the true measure of a man; does what he write match what he does, in private.
I retired after 38 years of walking into a tire plant, so I have an affinity for his writings. He studied and opened a small church. He was rejected by mainstream religion of the time. He lived what he peached, that to me is the true measure of a man; does what he write match what he does, in private.
I've covered, in about a billion posts, what "the kingdom of the heavens" pertains to... lol (no way one could say I've merely "skimmed over" them! )
[And Jesus said "*I* AM THE WAY..."]
)[And Jesus said "*I* AM THE WAY..."]
Wow I have a "biased" doctrine that is prejudiced. Look at all the prejudice comments from OSAS believers. Wow and my doctrines Biased.
you say I am
*Self- righteousness
*Dishonest
*Abusing Gods Grace
*Deceitful
*Twisting the word of God.
*A waste of time
*A person who babbles
Where have these biased ideas come from?
You OSAS believers
you say I am
*Self- righteousness
*Dishonest
*Abusing Gods Grace
*Deceitful
*Twisting the word of God.
*A waste of time
*A person who babbles
Where have these biased ideas come from?
You OSAS believers
Jesus referred to Judas as a devil before the betrayal (John 6:70) and Jesus also said that Judas was unclean before the betrayal (John 13:10-11). Judas didn't need to have the devil actually enter him from the beginning or betray Jesus from the beginning in order for him to be an unbelieving, unclean devil. You are really grasping for straws now in an effort to accommodate your biased doctrine at all costs.
Jesus referred to Judas as a devil before the betrayal (John 6:70) and Jesus also said that Judas was unclean before the betrayal (John 13:10-11). Judas didn't need to have the devil actually enter him from the beginning or betray Jesus from the beginning in order for him to be an unbelieving, unclean devil. You are really grasping for straws now in an effort to accommodate your biased doctrine at all costs.
Jesus pointed to Judas and called him a brother who did the will of his father.
Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Mat 19:28)
Judas was one of the twelve and was promised a thrown by Jesus.
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