Why do so many people think Paul was a false apostle?

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 10:52, “And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]said to him, “Go, your belief has healed you.” And immediately he saw again and followed [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]on the way.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 5:34, “And He said to her, “Daughter, your belief has healed you. Go in peace, and be relieved from your affliction.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 17:19, “And He said to him, “Rise, go your way. Your belief has made you well.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 5:14, “Afterward [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]found him in the Set-apart Place, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, so that no worse matter befalls you.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 8:11, “And she said, “No one, Master.” And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]said to her, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.”[/FONT]

 

[Ahwatukee]

"but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father "

The will of the Father is to believe in His Son whom He sent, Jesus Christ. The will of the Father is not for us to keep the law in order to enter into the kingdom of God, because no one will ever enter in by keeping the law.

You need to stop teaching this and repent, because this issue is eternal life threatening.

 

[Hizikyah]

The will of the Father is to believe in His Son whom He sent, Jesus Christ. The will of the Father is not for us to keep the law in order to enter into the kingdom of God, because no one will ever enter in by keeping the law.

You need to stop teaching this and repent, because this issue is eternal life threatening.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy." [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 20:6, “But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”[/FONT]

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 32:1, “Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 44:22, "“I shall wipe out your transgressions like a cloud, and your sins like a mist. Return to Me, for I shall redeem you.”[/FONT]


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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 5:32, “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”[/FONT]
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John 5:28-30, “Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth – those who have done* righteousness, to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced* evil matters, to a resurrection of judgment. Of Myself I am unable to do any matter. As I hear, I judge, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own desire, but the desire of the Father who sent Me.”[/FONT]



“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*done” is word #G4160 ποιέω poieo (poi-ye'-ō) v., to make or do.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]{in a very wide application, more or less direct; properly refers to a single act thus differing from G4238}, [apparently a prolonged form of an obsolete primary], Compare: G4238[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*practiced” G4238 πράσσω prasso (pras'-sō) v., 1. to practice, i.e. perform repeatedly or habitually., 2. (by implication) to execute, accomplish, etc., 3. (specially) to collect (dues), fare (personally)., {differing from G4160, which properly refers to a single act}, [a primary verb], KJV: commit, deeds, do, exact, keep, require, use arts, Compare: G4160


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[homwardbound]

You conveniently left off the key part of the context:

"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’ "

The reason why there will be those who will not enter into the kingdom of God, is because in the example above they will have been trusting in their own works to enter in as revealed by their own words "did we not." No one enters into the kingdom of God by prophesying, casting out demons, performing miracles, relying on the keeping of the Sabbath, abstaining from foods and trying to keep the ten commandments or any of the other laws.

The will of the Father is to believe in the Son. Those above will have been trying to get in by their own efforts, which currently you belong to.

I see that is one and many shall be judged by God in each person's motive behind whatever one is doing. One's works purpose is what I see Father will expose, those that work iniquity for self-gain. Are not real as the Pharisees were in Christ's day. As he told us all our works of belief better be better than the Pharisees or we will not enter his Father's Kingdom

For they claimed belief and appeared as knowing, but used it for gain here on earth.

And to whether or not another is doing this or not, I make no claim, Father desires to redeem everyone in his Love and mercy given by Son. For us to Love all back the same and stay out of Judging

For Father knows who are his and will bring each to see truth that belongs

Romans 14:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

I know this about me, I do not perfectly respond as if I know Christ, and yet by him from Father am saved. For

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2 Corinthians 10:5-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

5 casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

I see now to refrain from Judging others as if I got it together when only God doies not me ot anyone else.

So all I can do is love as am loved frist by God in FRisen Son leading

 

[Studyman]

"And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us."

His commands are not the keeping of the law. You should be concerned Hizikyah, because what are you teaching is against the Lord, regardless of how many Hebrew words you use.

Remember, those who put themselves under the law are bound to keep the entire law, perfectly. Once you break one, you've broken the entire law.

Being "Under the Law" does not mean being obedient to our creator. It means being dead in our transgressions.

For you to preach obedience to the instructions Jesus created, before becoming a man, is "Against Jesus" is widespread no doubt, nevertheless, it is not accurate according to the Word of God..

You teach this, Benny Hinn teaches this, Joel Olsteen teaches this, the Pope teaches this, but the Bible does not.

This is why Hiz has taken the time to show you what the Book actually says, out of reverence and Love for Jesus, and love of the Brethren.

If you can make the case that he is teaching against the Word's of the Bible, then make your case. But if he is simply exposing your doctrine as coming from man and not from God, maybe you should consider.

 

[Hizikyah]

I see that is one and many shall be judged by God in each person's motive behind whatever one is doing. One's works purpose is what I see Father will expose, those that work iniquity for self-gain. Are not real as the Pharisees were in Christ's day. As he told us all our works of belief better be better than the Pharisees or we will not enter his Father's Kingdom

For they claimed belief and appeared as knowing, but used it for gain here on earth.

And to whether or not another is doing this or not, I make no claim, Father desires to redeem everyone in his Love and mercy given by Son. For us to Love all back the same and stay out of Judging

For Father knows who are his and will bring each to see truth that belongs

Romans 14:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

I know this about me, I do not perfectly respond as if I know Christ, and yet by him from Father am saved. For

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2 Corinthians 10:5-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

5 casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

I see now to refrain from Judging others as if I got it together when only God doies not me ot anyone else.

So all I can do is love as am loved frist by God in FRisen Son leading

Hebrews 4:12-13, “For the Word of Yah is living, and working, and sharper than any two-edged sword, cutting through even to the dividing of being and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all are naked and laid bare before the eyes of Him with whom is our account.”

Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood and His Name is called: The Word of יהוה. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Strength Almighty. And on His robe and on His banner He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS."

Psalm 119:160, "The sum of Your word is truth, And all Your righteous right-rulings are forever."

Psalms 119:105, “Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.”

 

[Hizikyah]

Being "Under the Law" does not mean being obedient to our creator. It means being dead in our transgressions.

For you to preach obedience to the instructions Jesus created, before becoming a man, is "Against Jesus" is widespread no doubt, nevertheless, it is not accurate according to the Word of God..

You teach this, Benny Hinn teaches this, Joel Olsteen teaches this, the Pope teaches this, but the Bible does not.

This is why Hiz has taken the time to show you what the Book actually says, out of reverence and Love for Jesus, and love of the Brethren.

If you can make the case that he is teaching against the Word's of the Bible, then make your case. But if he is simply exposing your doctrine as coming from man and not from God, maybe you should consider.

Those in MEssiah are not under the curse of the Law:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The “curse of the Law” is receiving death for sin worthy of death. Yahshua/Jesus took that curse upon Himself for all those in Him.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-2, "Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of YHWH."[/FONT]

 

[Ahwatukee]

SO the only options are sinless perfection or throw His Law out? No, this is not right.

Hizikyah, you have not understood the simplicity of the good news. We are made perfect through faith in Christ. Not that we are righteous in our own selves, but we are credited with righteousness for faith, Christ's righteousness. God sees us through Christ's righteousness even though we are not perfect. As we continue from faith to faith, we are being transformed into the image of Christ. It is a life-long process and we will never reach perfection, not until that voice that sounds like a trumpet says "come up here" and we are changed into our immortal and glorified bodies, then we will have been perfected.

As those in Christ, when we sin, we confess our sins and he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanses us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Should we continue in sin that God's grace may abound? God forbid! As those in Christ we should be bringing our bodies under control, fleeing from every kind of sexual immorality and bringing every thought under captivity. But we are not under the law. We confess it and it's forgiven. If I am weak and I fail at any of the ten commandments or the other 613 laws, I confess it, it is forgiven and it's done with.

 

[Studyman]

The will of the Father is to believe in His Son whom He sent, Jesus Christ. The will of the Father is not for us to keep the law in order to enter into the kingdom of God, because no one will ever enter in by keeping the law.

You need to stop teaching this and repent, because this issue is eternal life threatening.

But "MANY" will not enter because they reject His Laws.

1 Cor. 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

 

[Hizikyah]

Hizikyah, you have not understood the simplicity of the good news. We are made perfect through faith in Christ. Not that we are righteous in our own selves, but we are credited with righteousness for faith, Christ's righteousness. God sees us through Christ's righteousness even though we are not perfect. As we continue from faith to faith, we are being transformed into the image of Christ. It is a life-long process and we will never reach perfection, not until that voice that sounds like a trumpet says "come up here" and we are changed into our immortal and glorified bodies, then we will have been perfected.

As those in Christ, when we sin, we confess our sins and he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanses us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Should we continue in sin that God's grace may abound? God forbid! As those in Christ we should be bringing our bodies under control, fleeing from every kind of sexual immorality and bringing every thought under captivity. But we are not under the law. We confess it and it's forgiven. If I am weak and I fail at any of the ten commandments or the other 613 laws, I confess it, it is forgiven and it's done with.

Mercy does not cancel out YHWH's Instructions or loving obedience.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 5:14, “Afterward [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]found him in the Set-apart Place, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, so that no worse matter befalls you.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 8:11, “And she said, “No one, Master.” And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]said to her, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness – by whose stripes you were healed.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-2, “Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of YHWH.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it." [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:24, "As for you, let that stay in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning stays in you, you also shall stay in the Son and in the Father."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 4:19-21, "We love Him, because He first loved us. If anyone says: I love YHWH, and hates his neighbor, he is a liar; for he who does not love his neighbor whom he has seen, how can he love YHWH Whom he has not seen? For we have this commandment from Him: That he who loves YHWH must love his neighbor also."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now I am sure we can go ask 1,000,000,000 people "what is love" and get a different answer every time, but I say if we ask YHWH "what is love" a 1,000,000,000 times, we will get the same answer every time....[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]

 

[JaumeJ]

Leaving the thread. If you have anything to say to me specifically, you know how to get to me.

 

[Ahwatukee]

1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."

Once again what you fail to apply is that, the reference to "His commands" is not referring to the works of the law. His commands are to believe in the one whom he sent and to love one another.

I don't even think about the law, I follow Christ! I don't get up in the morning and recite the ten commandments and remind myself not fail at any of them. I am not going to fail at them because I am following Christ my righteousness. And when I do fail at any of them, I confess my sin and am forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness. I am not under the law at all. My salvation is by trusting in Christ as the One who provided salvation for me. By having faith in Him who fulfilled the law, it is credited to me. God already sees me as having fulfilled the law and that because Christ fulfilled it whom I trust in.

 

[Ahwatukee]

But "MANY" will not enter because they reject His Laws.

1 Cor. 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the

The above is to all of those who are not having faith in Christ, which means that they will be judged according to their works in the flesh. The scripture above is referring to those who are willfully living according to the sinful nature, whether unbelievers or professing Christians.

 

[Hizikyah]

If I am weak and I fail at any of the ten commandments or the other 613 laws, I confess it, it is forgiven and it's done with.

I dont disagree with everything you said, His mercy is what even enables us to be reconciled to HIm period.

What you said here, I beleve this. Yahshua, having ratified the covenant in His blood:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."

Has given us the perfect and intende way to approach YHWH:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]to the Father except through Me."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 27:50-51, “And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]cried out again with a loud voice, and gave up His spirit. And see, the veil of the Dwelling Place was torn in two from top to bottom, and the earth was shaken, and the rocks were split.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:1-3, “Now the first covenant indeed had regulations of worship and the earthly set-apart place. For a Tent was prepared: the first part, in which was the lampstand, and the table, and the showbread, which is called the Set-apart Place. And after the second veil, the part of the Tent which is called Most Set-apart.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:24, “For Messiah has not entered into a Set-apart Place made by hand – figures of the true – but into the heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of Elohim on our behalf,"9:25, "not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters into the Set-apart Place year by year with blood not his own.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:11-12, “But Messiah, having become a High Priest of the coming good matters, through the greater and more perfect Tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation, entered into the Most Set-apart Place once for all, not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood, having obtained everlasting redemption.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:19, “So, brothers, having boldness to enter into the Set-apart Place by the blood of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], by a new and living way which He instituted for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:14-16, "Therefore, since we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Son of Elohim, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who was tried in all respects as we are, apart from sin. Therefore, let us come boldly to the throne of favor, in order to receive compassion, and find favor for timely help."

and the Law is still valid

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
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or nothing would be a sin:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 5:13, "For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 4:15, "Because the law works wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]thus as you said:

If I am weak and I fail at any of the ten commandments or the other 613 laws, I confess it, it is forgiven and it's done with.

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I write these things to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father: Yahshua Messiah, the Righteous; and He is the sacrifice of atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]His mercy is greater than all, let us not trample upon that mercy, but use it as motivation to do His will.

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-8, “Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of Yah. For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the desire of the nations, having walked in indecencies, lusts, drunkenness, orgies, wild parties, and abominable idolatries, in which they are surprised that you do not run with them in the same flood of loose behavior, blaspheming, who shall give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. For this reason the Good News was also brought to those who are dead, so that, whereas they are judged according to men in the flesh, they might live according to Yah in the spirit. But the end of all has drawn near. Therefore be sober-minded, and be attentive in the prayers. And above all have fervent love for one another, because love covers a great number of sins.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, “[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]

 

[Hizikyah]

[/COLOR][/B]The above is to all of those who are not having faith in Christ, which means that they will be judged according to their works in the flesh. The scripture above is referring to those who are willfully living according to the sinful nature, whether unbelievers or professing Christians.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 11:4, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is in His holy temple; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 62:9-12, “Sons of Aḏam are but a breath, Sons of men are a lie; If weighed in the scales, They are altogether lighter than breath. Do not trust in oppression. And do not become vain in robbery; If riches increase, Do not set your heart on them. The Mighty One has spoken once, Twice I have heard this: That strength belongs to Yah. And loving-commitment is Yours, O [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; For You reward each one according to his work.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 5:28-30, “Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth – those who have done* righteousness, to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced* evil matters, to a resurrection of judgment. Of Myself I am unable to do any matter. As I hear, I judge, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own desire, but the desire of the Father who sent Me.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:15, "Who show the work of the Torah written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing (condemming sin) or even excusing (justifying sin)."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 13:41-43, "The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]judgment seat” is word #G968 - béma: a step, raised place, by impl. A tribunal, Original Word: βῆμα, ατος, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: béma, Phonetic Spelling: (bay'-ma), Short Definition: the space covered by a step of the foot, a tribunal, Definition: an elevated place ascended by steps, a throne, tribunal.[/FONT]

 

[Hizikyah]

Once again what you fail to apply is that, the reference to "His commands" is not referring to the works of the law. His commands are to believe in the one whom he sent and to love one another.

I don't even think about the law, I follow Christ! I don't get up in the morning and recite the ten commandments and remind myself not fail at any of them. I am not going to fail at them because I am following Christ my righteousness. And when I do fail at any of them, I confess my sin and am forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness. I am not under the law at all. My salvation is by trusting in Christ as the One who provided salvation for me. By having faith in Him who fulfilled the law, it is credited to me. God already sees me as having fulfilled the law and that because Christ fulfilled it whom I trust in.

Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

believe the one He sent?

OK:

John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey


John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

 

[Seedz]

Why can't we all understand the simple fact that keeping the law is technically works? If one person keeps the law better than his brother, then that one person could boast.

Are we not saved by YHWH's Grace, through faith in Jesus so that no one may boast?

The glory belongs to Jesus for he made the ultimate sacrifice and the Father for he made the ultimate sacrifice possible.

Trying to hold onto your own doing to save you is like saying that you need something more that the Sacrifice that Jesus made.

It is like saying Jesus was not enough.

Jesus is enough because he fulfilled the law because he was the only one that Could.

The will of the Father is for us to believe in Jesus' sacrifice and love for us.

Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. If we love and trust in Jesus, we are then to live as he taught us because it is a beautiful way to interact with fellow humans and it makes the world a far better place.

Too bad not even mainstream Christianity understands the core of this message, hence the wildly different denominations and separations in the church.

 

[Hizikyah]

Why can't we all understand the simple fact that keeping the law is technically works? If one person keeps the law better than his brother, then that one person could boast.

Are we not saved by YHWH's Grace, through faith in Jesus so that no one may boast?

The glory belongs to Jesus for he made the ultimate sacrifice and the Father for he made the ultimate sacrifice possible.

Trying to hold onto your own doing to save you is like saying that you need something more that the Sacrifice that Jesus made.

It is like saying Jesus was not enough.

Jesus is enough because he fulfilled the law because he was the only one that Could.

The will of the Father is for us to believe in Jesus' sacrifice and love for us.

Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. If we love and trust in Jesus, we are then to live as he taught us because it is a beautiful way to interact with fellow humans and it makes the world a far better place.

Too bad not even mainstream Christianity understands the core of this message, hence the wildly different denominations and separations in the church.

I agree with what you said, except “the Law is fulfilled” in a way that it is abolished:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
Heaven and earth has not yet passed and all have not yet been fulfilled. This does not mean Im going to or believe I need to “fulfill” Messiah is the prophesied one He will return as the conquering Lion.



I would say it is a question of faith without work or faith with works.

and

Is the way His Law as told by the Messiah or whatever is in ones heart.

I say faith with works is faith perfected:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone."

James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:14, “My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.”[/FONT]

and His Law is the standard of love as told by Messiah:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 4:20, “"If someone says, "I love Yah," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love Yah whom he has not seen."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:24, "As for you, let that stay in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning stays in you, you also shall stay in the Son and in the Father."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]you shall love your neighbor as yourself[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

if promoting this is argumentative or wrong then I don't know what to say because it is all things the messiah promoted

 

[Studyman]

[/COLOR][/B]The above is to all of those who are not having faith in Christ, which means that they will be judged according to their works in the flesh. The scripture above is referring to those who are willfully living according to the sinful nature, whether unbelievers or professing Christians.

So then anyone who claims Jesus as their Savior, but transgresses the Commandments of God by their ancient religious traditions will be judged according to their works?