Who is Jesus Christ in this verse and why they call him The Everlasting Father?

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Godsgood

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There is only ONE GOD.
I like letting his word do the talking.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

John 1:1 plus 10-12
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days ((( I will raise it up.)))

Look here, JESUS speaking to Nicodemus. JESUS is ON the earth and he is also in Heaven!!
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Verses that JESUS spoke and those that GOD spoke.
JESUS IS COMING
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matthew 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13
GOD IS COMING
Zechariah 14:4,5, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelation 19:11, 16

JESUS THE CREATOR
John 1:10, 1 cor 8:6, Ephesians 3:9, Col. 1:12-17, Hebrews 1:8-12, Revelation 4:8-11, 10:6, 14:6-7, 21:5-7, 22:3.
GOD THE CREATOR
Genesis 1:1, 2:7, Job 33:4, Psalm 33:6, 104:30, I sa 40:28, 44:24, 45:11-18, Mal 2:10

JESUS THE ROCK
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matt 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13
GOD THE ROCK
Deut 32:1-4, 2 Samuel 22:1-3, 22:32, Psalm 18:2, 31:3, 78:34-35, 89:26, Isaiah 17:10-11

JESUS THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
1 John 4:14, 1 Peter 2:21-24, Acts 20:28, Gal 3:13, Luke 24:21-29, 2:10-11, Philippians 3:20, 1 Timothy 1:1-3, 4:10, Tutus 1:1-4, 2:10-13, 1 Peter 1:10-11, Jude 25
GOD THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
Psalm 78:34-35, I Isaiah 47:4, 44:6, 43:3-11, 45:21, 49:26, Psalm 106:21, Luke 1:46-47

JESUS FIRST AND LAST
Revelation 1:17, 22:13
GOD FIRST AND LAST
Isaiah 41:4, 43:10-11, 44:6-8

JESUS THE SHEPHERD
John 10:8-12, 1 Peter 2:21-25, Hebrews 13:20, 1 peter 5:4
GOD THE SHEPHERD
Psalm 23, Isaiah 40:10-11, Psalm 100

JESUS THE I AM AND I AM HE
John 18:5-8, 8:24-28, Revelation 1:17-18,
GOD THE I AM AND I AM HE
Exodus 3:13-14, Isaiah 43:10-11 and 25.

JESUS THE KING
Matthew 2:1-6, Luke 19:32-28, 23:3, John 18:37, 19:21, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, Revelation 15:1-4, 19:11-16
GOD THE KING
Psalm 24, 44:4, 74:12, Isaiah 43:10-15, 44:6-8, Jeremiah 10:10, Zechaniah 14:9
These are bunch of verses pertaining to Jesus as The Everlasting Father.
 
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WHY are so many thing s written To Isreal, taken and put into Today ? IF they were for The Gentiles; then why did Paul get sent to The Gentiles ? Why the change from The Kingdom of Heaven, to The Kingdom Of God?
 

lrs68

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Jesus as the Everlasting Father:

Look at the statement of God The Father.
He is pointing out to Jesus and he said IAM HE.
And God The Father claimed that God The Father is the only Savior.
ISAIAH 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

Then look at our Lord Jesus Christ he is pointing out to God The Father when Jesus said I AM HE.
And whosoever is not believing will be condemned
JOHN 8:24
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Is this possible?
What's possible is that God is not limited.

This verse in the Hebrew shows this is the SAME BEING in Heaven [presumably on His Throne] while at the (SAME TIME = OMNIPRESENCE) is on earth over watching the destruction in person:

24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven

This proves that the same person of God can be in Heaven [as Spirit] and also be a person on earth [flesh] doing the Will of God.


But Exodus 3 we see God in the form as LORD claim to be Elohim and I AM and then in Exodus 6 claim to be YHVH the MOST HIGH GOD. These are terms some beliefs apply to the Father but we know for a fact was a Christophany or was Jesus [Yeshua] before being Jesus [Yeshua].
 

lrs68

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Jesus as the Everlasting Father:

Look at the statement of God The Father.
He is pointing out to Jesus and he said IAM HE.
And God The Father claimed that God The Father is the only Savior.
ISAIAH 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

Then look at our Lord Jesus Christ he is pointing out to God The Father when Jesus said I AM HE.
And whosoever is not believing will be condemned
JOHN 8:24
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Is this possible?
What's possible is that God is not limited.

This verse in the Hebrew shows this is the SAME BEING in Heaven [presumably on His Throne] while at the (SAME TIME = OMNIPRESENCE) is on earth over watching the destruction in person:

24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven

This proves that the same person of God can be in Heaven [as Spirit] and also be a person on earth [flesh] doing the Will of God.


But Exodus 3 we see God in the form as LORD claim to be Elohim and I AM and then in Exodus 6 claim to be YHVH the MOST HIGH GOD. These are terms some beliefs apply to the Father but we know for a fact was a Christophany or was Jesus [Yeshua] before being Jesus [Yeshua].
 

lrs68

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Jesus as the Everlasting Father:

Look at the statement of God The Father.
He is pointing out to Jesus and he said IAM HE.
And God The Father claimed that God The Father is the only Savior.
ISAIAH 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

Then look at our Lord Jesus Christ he is pointing out to God The Father when Jesus said I AM HE.
And whosoever is not believing will be condemned
JOHN 8:24
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Is this possible?
What's possible is that God is not limited.

This verse in the Hebrew shows this is the SAME BEING in Heaven [presumably on His Throne] while at the (SAME TIME = OMNIPRESENCE) is on earth over watching the destruction in person:

24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven

This proves that the same person of God can be in Heaven [as Spirit] and also be a person on earth [flesh] doing the Will of God.


But Exodus 3 we see God in the form as LORD claim to be Elohim and I AM and then in Exodus 6 claim to be YHVH the MOST HIGH GOD. These are terms some beliefs apply to the Father but we know for a fact was a Christophany or was Jesus [Yeshua] before being Jesus [Yeshua].
 

lrs68

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This website has been having issues and I didn't realize I posted once already. It keeps telling me server issues when I post but didn't realize it actually posted. Sorry for the double post.
 
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What's possible is that God is not limited.

This verse in the Hebrew shows this is the SAME BEING in Heaven [presumably on His Throne] while at the (SAME TIME = OMNIPRESENCE) is on earth over watching the destruction in person:

24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven

This proves that the same person of God can be in Heaven [as Spirit] and also be a person on earth [flesh] doing the Will of God.


But Exodus 3 we see God in the form as LORD claim to be Elohim and I AM and then in Exodus 6 claim to be YHVH the MOST HIGH GOD. These are terms some beliefs apply to the Father but we know for a fact was a Christophany or was Jesus [Yeshua] before being Jesus [Yeshua].
IF Jesus died on The Cross, and He was God; as some say: Then why did This World not end, Then?
 
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This website has been having issues and I didn't realize I posted once already. It keeps telling me server issues when I post but didn't realize it actually posted. Sorry for the double post.
I did that too but realized it right away and was able to delete it with the reason "duplicate".
 

lrs68

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IF Jesus died on The Cross, and He was God; as some say: Then why did This World not end, Then?
We read that after being buried and presumably in the tomb dead for the 3 days that He actually was doing things like setting the Captives free. So He appears to be alive the entire time.
 

lrs68

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WHY are so many thing s written To Isreal, taken and put into Today ? IF they were for The Gentiles; then why did Paul get sent to The Gentiles ? Why the change from The Kingdom of Heaven, to The Kingdom Of God?
My viewpoint only here...

Much of what we read from Paul, outside of when his Letters were [directly written] to a specific Church, the rest of his Letters were written to his Disciples [like Timothy] and we see a lot of Paul's own personal opinions. And it doesn't necessarily mean that they are Inspired by the Holy Spirit but rather how he personally believed. So some of the information we read is opinion and the rest Inspired.

I also believe in some of the sections that are Inspired we also can see his own opinion. So whether you call something Kingdom of Heaven and someone else called it Kingdom of God chances are good it's about the [(same Kingdom)] but phrased by personal choice of wording.