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Runningman

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Lanolin said:
one that preaches the gospel and helps you grow in faith, one you can find fellowship in

I think church tends to be spoiled sometimes by fleshly concerns. I found this lovely churches I liked I also had friends to go with, but then started getting hit on by one of the men in the congrgation.

For single women you go to find fellowship, not to be chatted up. You dont expect it, but it happens and I think spoils it when you get cornered by people looking at your body like they want to take it home. Honestly.
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I agree. I think church should be about fellowship, kind of our refuge from the world where we can all get together and provoke one another to love and good works.

I don’t think it’s good if people are examining each other’s bodies too. That’s disrespectful and unbecoming. I do think that church presents a convenient location to possibly find Christian singles, though. Otherwise finding a Christian can be challenging if exploring the general public.

I’m not exactly sure what being chatted up is or how that is different from just having a conversation like how people normally do anyway.

I guess if the conversation is unwelcome because of the content of the conversation I understand, but just normal chatting is a key part of fellowship. That being said, hopefully people aren’t being rude or offensive. When or if I get chatted to by someone, male or female, I try to just be friendly.
 
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I agree. I think church should be about fellowship, kind of our refuge from the world where we can all get together and provoke one another to love and good works.

I don’t think it’s good if people are examining each other’s bodies too. That’s disrespectful and unbecoming. I do think that church presents a convenient location to possibly find Christian singles, though. Otherwise finding a Christian can be challenging if exploring the general public.

I’m not exactly sure what being chatted up is or how that is different from just having a conversation like how people normally do anyway.

I guess if the conversation is unwelcome because of the content of the conversation I understand, but just normal chatting is a key part of fellowship. That being said, hopefully people aren’t being rude or offensive. When or if I get chatted to by someone, male or female, I try to just be friendly.
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its when they want to get you alone and in bed. Ugh.

Women know what that means.
 
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Runningman

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Lanolin said:
its when they want to get you alone and in bed. Ugh.

Women know what that means.
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Okay I understand. That’s definitely inappropriate just chatting with people at church or anywhere. I can see a married couple discussing that, but otherwise shouldn’t even be brought up.
 
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being kicked off, links for information
https://www.godwhospeaks.uk/our-top-ten-musical-instruments-in-the-bible/
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10657a.htm
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10648a.htm
‘And David and all the house of Israel were celebrating before the LORD, with songs and lyres and harps and tambourines and castanets and cymbals.’ (2 Samuel 6:5, ESV)

‘Praise him with sounding cymbals;
praise him with loud clashing cymbals!’ (Psalm 150:5, ESV)

Cymbals are also mentioned in the New Testament, again with reference to being noisy, this time in a negative way:

‘If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.’ (1 Corinthians 13:1, ESV)

Bells

https://www.godwhospeaks.uk/our-top-ten-musical-instruments-in-the-bible/

Psalm 150:1-6 ESV / 243 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! ...

Psalm 98:4-6 ESV / 79 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth; break forth into joyous song and sing praises! Sing praises to the Lord with the lyre, with the lyre and the sound of melody! With trumpets and the sound of the horn make a joyful noise before the King, the Lord!

1 Chronicles 23:5 ESV / 64 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
4,000 gatekeepers, and 4,000 shall offer praises to the Lord with the instruments that I have made for praise.”

Amos 6:5 ESV / 48 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Who sing idle songs to the sound of the harp and like David invent for themselves instruments of music,

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To the choirmaster: according to The Gittith. Of Asaph. Sing aloud to God our strength; shout for joy to the God of Jacob! Raise a song; sound the tambourine, the sweet lyre with the harp.

2 Chronicles 29:25 ESV / 41 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
And he stationed the Levites in the house of the Lord with cymbals, harps, and lyres, according to the commandment of David and of Gad the king's seer and of Nathan the prophet, for the commandment was from the Lord through his prophets.

These texts shows that musical tools are not forbiden. If we think about it, the early church was perscuted, thus often in hidding in graves tunnels under Rome.
https://record.adventistchurch.com/2021/06/17/the-ten-musical-instruments-in-the-bible/
 
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https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2019/02/the-list-of-musical-instruments-mentioned-in-the-bible
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Musical-Instruments,-Types-Of
https://www.christianstudylibrary.o...nts-and-musicians-worship-bible-old-testament
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Musical-Instruments,-Types-Of
https://www.worshiplibrary.com/libr...-worship/a-brief-history-of-music-in-worship/

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable – if anything is excellent or praiseworthy – think about such things.

(Philippians 4:8)

https://www.christianheritageedinburgh.org.uk/category/arts/history-of-music-in-the-church/
 
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TheLearner

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I have no doubt many in the early church did not use music tools to avoid being found by wicked people out to harm them. Scripture shows that music tools are permissivable when done unto Jesus.
 
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