Where Americas Founders Deists or Christians or Something Else?

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America is not just a melting pot of people, but also a melting pot of denominations - - this has been both good and bad: theology has been free to expand, but it's also been free to stray from orthodoxy into heresy and give rise to various cults
Yes, which topic is being presented on the KISSed HOB thread.
 

Magenta

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The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms' Preamble refers to "the supremacy of God".

The Canadian national anthem in both official languages refers to God.

 
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Zanzibar, isn't that where they are Joe Bidens uncle?
Zanzibar, Zanzibar,
Zanzibar is very far
You can’t get there in a car
It’s too far to Zanzibar


Zanzibar, they don’t have tar
To put on roads to drive their cars
Men and women smoke cigars
There’s no tar in Zanzibar


In Zanzibar, they grow cloves
What they’re for, I don’t know
Maybe they put ‘em between their toes
In Zanzibar, they grow cloves


In Zanzibar, they grow ground nuts
People who grow them live in huts
In Zanzibar there’s sugar cane
To grow it they need lots of rain


In Zanzibar, they grow tea
Far away across the sea
Off the coast of Afriki
In Zanzibar, they grow tea


Zanzibar, Zanzibar,
Zanzibar is very far
You can’t get there in a car
It’s too far to Zanzibar


- Bill Harley
 

shittim

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#86
how many of mr. Washingtons private wishes actually matter with respect to american culture and the structure of her government?

i hereby dedicate Zanzibar to God.
have i affected anything?[/QUOT
You haven't but a Godly might have.
 
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we do well to remember the word of God, that He alone is who sanctifies, not men.

Isaiah 40:17​
All nations before Him [are] as nothing, And they are counted by Him less than nothing and worthless.
 

ResidentAlien

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When the founders refer to "God" or "Providence," they're talking about a God of their understanding; not unlike in all the recovery programs. In those groups they refer to God constantly, it doesn't mean they know the true God or understand the gospel. I've been in recovery programs where they say it doesn't matter; the God of your understanding can be a lamp post, so long as it's your higher power.

The first arrivals in the "new world" were Christians; but they weren't the ones who ended up deciding how the new nation would be governed. Those people's ideas about God were all over the place; and they clearly had no intention of founding another nation ruled by a Christian monarch.
 

Aaron56

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When the founders refer to "God" or "Providence," they're talking about a God of their understanding; not unlike in all the recovery programs. In those groups they refer to God constantly, it doesn't mean they know the true God or understand the gospel. I've been in recovery programs where they say it doesn't matter; the God of your understanding can be a lamp post, so long as it's your higher power.

The first arrivals in the "new world" were Christians; but they weren't the ones who ended up deciding how the new nation would be governed. Those people's ideas about God were all over the place; and they clearly had no intention of founding another nation ruled by a Christian monarch.
This is so patently apparent only delusion can keep someone from seeing it. Perhaps it's because of the systematic conditioning in our currency, our patriotic songs, our education system and the myths of the beginning of our country.

Ironically, many US Christians equate democracy with Kingdom living, as if God awaits our input to govern. At the governmental foundation of the US is the rejection of the rule of a monarch. It's a wonder why US Bible do not forbid the word "king" to describe Christ.